DaGambler's 4k HPS 99 Plant Hempy Grow

shnkrmn

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ya, i've seen from past grows how you can get just a thin layer of buds on the top if you don't do something to thin the vegetation from the canopy... but i had been following advice (somewhat) that was probably better tailored to outdoor growers; that 'each fan leaf is a factory for bud production' ... which makes sense in an environment with almost unlimited light.
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I've seriously lollipopped my mothers taking cuttings, ala MrHowardMarks. I'm looking for no popcorn when I flower, just fat tops. I can keep fan leaves, because there's almost nothing beneath them for them to shade out. At least that's my theory.
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raiderman

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ya, i've seen from past grows how you can get just a thin layer of buds on the top if you don't do something to thin the vegetation from the canopy... but i had been following advice (somewhat) that was probably better tailored to outdoor growers; that 'each fan leaf is a factory for bud production' ... which makes sense in an environment with almost unlimited light.
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lookin at ur las update,,fk theres no end to your growroom,lol, now i'm the jealous one ,damn, lol, maybe soon ,great job.:eyesmoke:..yea i leave som fan leaves on the bottom if there no crowding goin on , jus removing leaf matter from budding sites so they whole plant can mature properly,,,, yea single colas , no popcorn your rite,
 

Thundercat

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I'm with ya gambler, I've had a few people say that to me, that the fan leaves make the energy, but its not just fan leaves that do, its all the leaves. I think you're gonna end up with some damn nice buds on all your girls. I've trimmed out a bunch of lower center growth on mine where the light isn't gonna be able to reach. I'm gonna do a bit more in another week or 2 , then leave them till the end just trimming things as they die off.
 

DaGambler

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Pic 1: The Metal Halide Conversion bulb takes center stage. Can you tell where it is by the "color" of the plants? heheh.

Aside from some light trimming, this is pretty much just buds at 42 days in (de-vegged)... with about 3 weeks to go for fattening up and trichome production. Anything over 4 lbs. would be gravy. Next go i'll be shooting for at least 6.

Pic 2: Opposite view of the "I" or "H" formation.

Pic 3 & 4: Just some closer pics w/only the MH running.
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raiderman

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Pic 1: The Metal Halide Conversion bulb takes center stage. Can you tell where it is by the "color" of the plants? heheh.

Aside from some light trimming, this is pretty much just buds at 42 days in (de-vegged)... with about 3 weeks to go for fattening up and trichome production. Anything over 4 lbs. would be gravy. Next go i'll be shooting for at least 6.

Pic 2: Opposite view of the "I" or "H" formation.
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looks like a bumper crop to me ,, gd. luk on your total, ,,,Do yu know anything about ozone generator? are they worth the money?
 

fdd2blk

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Pic 1: The Metal Halide Conversion bulb takes center stage. Can you tell where it is by the "color" of the plants? heheh.

Aside from some light trimming, this is pretty much just buds at 42 days in (de-vegged)... with about 3 weeks to go for fattening up and trichome production. Anything over 4 lbs. would be gravy. Next go i'll be shooting for at least 6.

Pic 2: Opposite view of the "I" or "H" formation.
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what the .............. ? :neutral:
 

DaGambler

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looks like a bumper crop to me ,, gd. luk on your total, ,,,Do yu know anything about ozone generator? are they worth the money?
worth every penny. you control their performance exactly. mine hangs at the highest point in the room and comes on for 15 min. out of every hour... except every 6th hour where it comes on for 30 mins. (due to a recent increase in the need for odor control). in my own home i smell nothing. if i did i would just turn it on a little longer. just don't use one in a closet and always use a timer.
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DaGambler

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what the .............. ? :neutral:
well, i'm afraid ur just gonna have to start from the beginning :D

heheh, alright, i'll make it easier for you:

the theory is that flower production is dwindling down at this point (HPS very good for flower production) but that trichome production is now going to be reaching greater intensity (MH -may- be better for trichome production as it leans more toward the UVB in the spectrum). In my last grow room i had (1) HPS 1000w on either side of a MH 1000w. Worked well. If i'm unable to differentiate greater trichome production under the MH bulb, then next crop i'll use HPS exclusively.
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fdd2blk

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well, i'm afraid ur just gonna have to start from the beginning :D

heheh, alright, i'll make it easier for you:

the theory is that flower production is dwindling down at this point (HPS very good for flower production) but that trichome production is now going to be reaching greater intensity (MH -may- be better for trichome production as it leans more toward the UVB in the spectrum). In my last grow room i had (1) HPS 1000w on either side of a MH 1000w. Worked well. If i'm unable to differentiate greater trichome production under the MH bulb, then next crop i'll use HPS exclusively.
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i've heard all that. i'm hanging my 3 HPS's, at the end i was thinking of throwing an MH in the middle in place of one of them. what i'm trippin' on is the patch of green. is that just the camera? or does it really look like that? :neutral:
 

420weedman

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mmmmmmm...metal halide, mine looked like that when i put it up.
it also makes it easier to see inside the trichs :)

this de-vegging your doing .... just taking off fan leaves in front of buds i guess ?
 

raiderman

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mmmmmmm...metal halide, mine looked like that when i put it up.
it also makes it easier to see inside the trichs :)

this de-vegging your doing .... just taking off fan leaves in front of buds i guess ?
wouldnt ya want more than the top bud mature?my mh not far from mine either,, the plants only recognize the nearest light anyway, great job DG on the manicuring ,youll notice some strains go real crazy wen manicured , doubling at times , swelling enormous bud from top to bottom , no undergrowth.:eyesmoke:this bluecheese got my hea d bumpin,, had wee wee downtown ,lol, those of you lookin for a good negative ua ,use TOXIC, dehydrated urine,, wat a great idea. worx like a charm , bot a sok full,lol.later DG.great job.
 

southern homegrower

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worth every penny. you control their performance exactly. mine hangs at the highest point in the room and comes on for 15 min. out of every hour... except every 6th hour where it comes on for 30 mins. (due to a recent increase in the need for odor control). in my own home i smell nothing. if i did i would just turn it on a little longer. just don't use one in a closet and always use a timer.
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i was thinking about getting a ozone generator. could u recomend one. my room is 7ft7 by 4ft7 by 7ft high or is it to small. i am realy concerned about the smell houses are to close together
 

Thundercat

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Looks very sweet gambler I don't think getting your 4 lbs will be a problem man. Those girls look like they are really putting on some weight too!
 

DaGambler

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i've heard all that. i'm hanging my 3 HPS's, at the end i was thinking of throwing an MH in the middle in place of one of them. what i'm trippin' on is the patch of green. is that just the camera? or does it really look like that? :neutral:
Ha Ha...

naw, its just cuz the HPS is reddish light and the MH is bluish light :D so i didn't bother to color correct the photo like usual.
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DaGambler

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mmmmmmm...metal halide, mine looked like that when i put it up.
it also makes it easier to see inside the trichs :)

this de-vegging your doing .... just taking off fan leaves in front of buds i guess ?
ya it brings a different kind of light to the room, i've glanced that way a couple times now and wondered if the roof got lifted off the room 'cuz it's so bluish in there now.

devegging: at 20 days anything blocking upper 1/2 budsites. at 30 days anything blocking any budsite. at 40 days basically all fan leaves are gone on the plant even if they aren't blocking anything.
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DaGambler

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i was thinking about getting a ozone generator. could u recomend one. my room is 7ft7 by 4ft7 by 7ft high or is it to small. i am realy concerned about the smell houses are to close together
Just look for a good price on a Ozone Jr. (Also called Ozone 1000 I think - HTG and many other places have them.) i'm using a Ozonator3000. you'll still want it on a timer... start at no more than 15 min. per hour every couple hours or less and go from there.
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