ILLEGAL NATURE 420
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So can somebody who has real knowledge tell me what ima need? How many rooms, lights, plants? How would you do it? Money is not a problem.
Wanna grow 10lbs every 8 weeks...
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ILLEGAL NATURE 420
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40 plants at 4oz per = 10lbs
So it takes a whole house to grow 40?
So it takes a whole house to grow 40?
YungMoolaBaby
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just torrent seemorebud's dvd. thats probably the best explanation.
FLoJo
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if you dont have any idea, its probably not a good place to start LOL.. thats a lot of know how, a lot of work, a lot of time, a lot of plants, and a big investment.. at least 15k
consider a beginner can get .5 gpw..that comes out to 1 lb per 1k watt so lets just start there.. and for ease of maintnence lets just say hydro.. soil will be cheaper but more work and veg time involved
you will need
10 1000 watt ballasts and bulbs
a master controller to run them.. you can build em or buy em
10 air cooled hoods
ducting for said hoods
at least 2 8 inch fans to cool the hoods
all the mounts/hangers to hang the lights
5 4x8 tables (2kw per table)
5 115 gallon resies
5 pumps to run tables
5 timers (or 1 master controller)
5 sets of table fittings
nice RO filtration system
you will need a massive carbon filter and fan.. 12 or 14 inches for exhaust
you will need another 12 or 14 inch fan for your intake
ducting for lights, intake, and exhaust
a big ass dehumidifier
a big ass A/C
gallons and gallons of nutrients
bags of hydroton, or tons of rockwool blocks depending on grow media
plus tons of misc items such as meters, testers, netting, measuring cups, oscilating fans, pots, stakes, yoyos,
then assuming you do 16 plants per 1k, or 32 plants per 4x8 table you will need 160 plants.. you could do well over 100 plants per 4x8 table which would mean at least 500 plants
and this is the BARE MINIMUM for a hydroponic flowering cycle..
then you have to maintain mothers which is more lights, more nutrients, more fans, more plants..
again this is the bare minimum.. you can easily drop 20-30k on a nice system of this size
not only that then you have to have a secure place to run this kind of wattage, with this kind of space, expect to pay 1500-2000 dollars a month in electricity, plus water etc.etc.
then plan on spending at least 2 hours on average per day, per table doing the pruning, moving, feeding, res changes and tests
then plan on probably 4-7 hours of trimming per pound depending on leaf/bud ratio and experience.
you might want to think about this kind of undertaking a tad bit more before you drop that kind of change without having a lot of experience..
consider a beginner can get .5 gpw..that comes out to 1 lb per 1k watt so lets just start there.. and for ease of maintnence lets just say hydro.. soil will be cheaper but more work and veg time involved
you will need
10 1000 watt ballasts and bulbs
a master controller to run them.. you can build em or buy em
10 air cooled hoods
ducting for said hoods
at least 2 8 inch fans to cool the hoods
all the mounts/hangers to hang the lights
5 4x8 tables (2kw per table)
5 115 gallon resies
5 pumps to run tables
5 timers (or 1 master controller)
5 sets of table fittings
nice RO filtration system
you will need a massive carbon filter and fan.. 12 or 14 inches for exhaust
you will need another 12 or 14 inch fan for your intake
ducting for lights, intake, and exhaust
a big ass dehumidifier
a big ass A/C
gallons and gallons of nutrients
bags of hydroton, or tons of rockwool blocks depending on grow media
plus tons of misc items such as meters, testers, netting, measuring cups, oscilating fans, pots, stakes, yoyos,
then assuming you do 16 plants per 1k, or 32 plants per 4x8 table you will need 160 plants.. you could do well over 100 plants per 4x8 table which would mean at least 500 plants
and this is the BARE MINIMUM for a hydroponic flowering cycle..
then you have to maintain mothers which is more lights, more nutrients, more fans, more plants..
again this is the bare minimum.. you can easily drop 20-30k on a nice system of this size
not only that then you have to have a secure place to run this kind of wattage, with this kind of space, expect to pay 1500-2000 dollars a month in electricity, plus water etc.etc.
then plan on spending at least 2 hours on average per day, per table doing the pruning, moving, feeding, res changes and tests
then plan on probably 4-7 hours of trimming per pound depending on leaf/bud ratio and experience.
you might want to think about this kind of undertaking a tad bit more before you drop that kind of change without having a lot of experience..
It would be a much more solid investment to start with 1-2lbs every 2-4 wks let the money from that smaller op pay for the larger op and at the same time gaining a wealth of hands on experience which is going to be needed before taking on something the size your talking. Just to keep the plants alive and healthy will be a problem for someone with little experience but the risk of getting it all busted before you ever even see a harvest is far to great for that size of an op. It's one thing to not be limited by money and fill a house with lights/fans/plants but it's a whole nother to pull it all off and still keep your freedom.
ILLEGAL NATURE 420
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Thank you for your opinion...helps me alot.
ILLEGAL NATURE 420
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Like your thinking....
joker152
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dick...... its cool to pirate shit from paramount pictures and shit or old and dead bands but cmon..... really? im sure SMB lives and grows somewhere that maryj is a criminal offense, thus risking prison so we can learn from a very knowledgable pot grower, if you wanna learn to grow from a pro, come here and learn it from the people who post their shit on here so people can learn for free. you gotta have SOME ethical guidelines in life man. if you wanna learn to grow some MONSTER plants with high yield go spend some time reading riu user mygirls journals, dont pirate copyrighted material
hazetastic808
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You got to take a whole lot of things into account, honestly maybe just take this time to setup a small grow 1 or 2 plants and learn about growing a little before you dive in to becoming an overnight Marijuana kingpin..... I don't want to be rude or anything, its just anytime I see a post like this I think to myself of either a kid right out of highschool with crazily overinflated dreams, or someone whos dead serious about it and going to be taking it in the ass in prison for the next 10-15 years. Just be smart and think within your own grasp and you'll be fine.
Ole Budheavy
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If money is not an issue, he's sure not gonna trim the fucking buds when he can buy a trimming machine. Subtract 4-7 hours per pound down to the time it takes to hack the stems off the plant and pull off the major leaves. Then add 5 min per pound with a bitchin' trimming machine. Odelay!
mobone
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Yea, my first purchase would be a police scanner. Or twelve. And even then your F'd before you even hear your name on the radio.
poundpusher2009
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I would suggest the same 10 pounds is alot to start with and knowing the risk would be the first step. You do understand a heat signature on a house like this would be great. It would be better to sit down with a pen and paper and know how much you can invest. You would need an efficient plan as well. Growing from seed would take alot of work considering to get clones for that many plants you would need atleast 4 months. Thats pushing it. But considering I was going to do this i would set a basic vertical octagon grow. 2 flowering rooms with 2400 watts and one veg room. If you have 50 plants in each flowering room it is very possible to hit 4 to 5 pounds every months. If you took clones at the right time you would get 5 pounds every 45 days. Now if you wanted 10 pounds you would need to double this plan and go with 2 veg rooms and 4 flowering rooms and take clones in intervals. In order to do this it needs to be very sophisticated and professional. You just dont start doing this as a beginner. If you think about it all the work just do set up proper ventilation on a house like this is an incredible amount of work. I am not saying you cant do it. Just alot of work. I would start with 1 - 2 pounds and let that flow the real adventure.
Good luck.
Good luck.
FLoJo
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so add another 12 grand
ILLEGAL NATURE 420
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No.... Ive grown outdoors and with Cfls indoors.... both succesful.
ILLEGAL NATURE 420
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Or maybe i wont need it..... and ill end up driving mercedes with your sister in the back seat??? Risk is just part of it, not a deterrent!
hazetastic808
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Dude, this post alone is going to make me take another second and reiterate my last post. Your arrogance combined with ignorance IS going to land you in prison if you move forward the way you are right now.
Your right we all take risk, and always will until its legal. But theres something to minimizing that risk and being smart about it, not just accepting it and saying fuck it.
If your saying risk isn't a deterrent with your plan, you really are just being an idiot. I'll reiterate this further with a couple of points.
1. Honestly I know if I, and I think alot of other people would agree had a OP of that size going I wouldn't be on here discussing it, 99% of the people growing on here producing a couple pounds a year in there closets are way under law enforcement radar, its not worth there time to fuck with them for the most part, producing 60+ pounds a year for commercial use like your talking about however is right up there allie. You think the police man doesn't have internet?
2. Kinda goes with number 1, but I personally believe if your planning on an OP that size you should be experienced enough already that you don't need to come on here looking for tips.
3. The electric company IS going to notice and look into a residential house using $1000+ in electricity every month.
4. Your house IS going to glow like a christmas tree on a heli's thermal scan.
5. Someones going to be wondering how that loser with no job, is driving that guys sister around in a new mercedes, assuming your not stupid enough to take his sister inside and try to impress her with your giant roomfull of marijuana.
6. I can only imagine how much all that would smell but that will most definitely be an issue.
7. Taking care of all those plants is going to be a FULLTIME job.
8. Thats just the growing part, the trafficking it is a whole nother list, I'm anticipating you'll probably give me some BS response like "my friends are loyal and would never rat on me" No matter how loyal a person is or how well you know them when there looking at years in prison or giving you up your naive if you think their choosing the former.
9. Theres millions of people in prison across the country for marijuana related charges, you really think your smarter than all of them? What about your friends? If not you'll probably be counting yourself among them soon enough.
10. You realise that for whatever fucked up reason Marijuana possesion especially on the scale your talking about is no minor crime. Seriously if you got busted with your op and your friend went out and shot and killed someone on the same day, you'd probably be looking at about the same sentence, he might even be back out on the streets before you are.
Like I said earlier I'm not trying to be a downer or discourage you or hating on growing, I grow myself. I just think you need to take a bit more knowledgable approach to it if you are going to move forward because if you continue the way you are its not a matter of if but when you will get busted, so I'm just trying to save you a couple decades in prison thats all.
mobone
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Stupid. I guess you'll be growing some crap weed if all you can afford is a Mercedes on 10lbs.