2000w's and 100sq ft, how to hit 3Ps?

Damios

Damios

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I wanted to start a soil grow and was trying to figure out many plants to grow. I am growing serious seeds AK-47 and
I want to get just around 3 elbows.

The setup is going to be a 100sq ft room, but I am only going to have plants in about 80 of it for a little room to move around. I am going to put 2000 watts over them and keep the room very well ventilated, the lights will be vented too. I will probably use Co2 and keep it at 1500 or so, not sure yet but I do have the tank.

All I'm trying to figure out is whether 28 plants vegged for a week or so will produce around 3ps or not. I will be using 3.5 gallon containers.

Any input would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
 
FLoJo

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ok, if you want 3 lbs, from 28 plants heres the math

448g x 3= 1344

1344/28= 48 grams per plant

you have 2000 watts, which means 14 plants per light (i would do 16 to do 4 rows of 4 personally)

so anyways if you are growing in a good organic soil, and only vegging for a week from clones, you will most likely not even get an oz per plant.. i would suggest vegging for a few weeks, top them, then top the tops a couple weeks later (so each plant has 4 main colas)

then i would flower them when they were nice and busy about 15-18 inches tall, let them stretch out and start trimming off everything on the bottom 1/3 of the plant, or if they have strong main colas, everything under the 4 mains.. get a trellis netting to hold em up and your good to go
 
desert fox

desert fox

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3lbs is very do able with that strain. I used to grow that strain in a sea of green years ago. AK is great for sea of green. I had 4x400 watt and an area of 3X12. I had one plant per sq ft so I had 36 plants. Let them grow veg for a while it will help your yield. I say a week would be suitable if taking clones from a mature mother. I vegged for 10 days. I tried one time growing out one of my 6 ft mothers tied down. I cant remember #s but I know it blew the sog style out of the water, but I liked perpetual harvest method better. Since you have 100 square feet to play with It might be worth a try to veg out some monsters if you got some MHs. I am going to be growing this strain next in scrog.
 
Damios

Damios

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FLoJo said:
ok, if you want 3 lbs, from 28 plants heres the math

448g x 3= 1344

1344/28= 48 grams per plant

you have 2000 watts, which means 14 plants per light (i would do 16 to do 4 rows of 4 personally)

so anyways if you are growing in a good organic soil, and only vegging for a week from clones, you will most likely not even get an oz per plant.. i would suggest vegging for a few weeks, top them, then top the tops a couple weeks later (so each plant has 4 main colas)

then i would flower them when they were nice and busy about 15-18 inches tall, let them stretch out and start trimming off everything on the bottom 1/3 of the plant, or if they have strong main colas, everything under the 4 mains.. get a trellis netting to hold em up and your good to go
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Thanks for the input :)

Seems like a longer veg is what I'm going to be doing then. I like that 4 cola idea too I think I might try that.

Only thing is where do you think I should top them (height wise) so that they end up being 15-18" tall just before flowering?

I'm guessing around 8 the first time and then 12 the second?

Thanks again for the input, all help is appreciated.


Blaze up~bongsmilie
 
Damios

Damios

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desert fox said:
3lbs is very do able with that strain. I used to grow that strain in a sea of green years ago. AK is great for sea of green. I had 4x400 watt and an area of 3X12. I had one plant per sq ft so I had 36 plants. Let them grow veg for a while it will help your yield. I say a week would be suitable if taking clones from a mature mother. I vegged for 10 days. I tried one time growing out one of my 6 ft mothers tied down. I cant remember #s but I know it blew the sog style out of the water, but I liked perpetual harvest method better. Since you have 100 square feet to play with It might be worth a try to veg out some monsters if you got some MHs. I am going to be growing this strain next in scrog.
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Yeah thats what I have heard, Ak is a beast of a plant. Thats why my goal is at around 3ps, I feel it is very attainable, just not sure exactly how many plants and how long the veg to get that much with the area I'm workin with.

If your saying that it grows better as a large plant compared to SOG than I might grow out some "monsters" like you said.

I think I might go with the 16 like FloJo said and double top them, not sure yet though.

Thanks for your input too man, it all helps.


Blaze up~ bongsmilie
 
FLoJo

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sog will no doubt give you a better yield, especially if you have the spear shaped sativa pheno that ak has.. grows one single cola from the top to the bottom, but if you are trying to keep plant numbers low, big ones are a good option..
 
Damios

Damios

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FLoJo said:
sog will no doubt give you a better yield, especially if you have the spear shaped sativa pheno that ak has.. grows one single cola from the top to the bottom, but if you are trying to keep plant numbers low, big ones are a good option..
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Hmm well when it really comes down to it I am more focused on least amount of smell as possible.

So from my growing experience I have found bigger plants to smell more just because of the fact they have more vegetative material period.

I would much rather grow a bunch of smaller plants than 16 huge ones.

I'm pretty sure I have the sativa AK, or at least serious seeds claims to have the sativa pheno and that is the one I bought.

I also just like the idea of SOG for this strain too because of what you said, one cola from top to bottom...which is perfect for SOG or at least what you would want.
 
AN Addict 420

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Make a completely sealed room, no in or out vents (adding supplemental C02 of course), and I would go with AN's Organic schedule Plus Nirvana and you could definitely do it.
 
Damios

Damios

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AN Addict 420 said:
Make a completely sealed room, no in or out vents (adding supplemental C02 of course), and I would go with AN's Organic schedule Plus Nirvana and you could definitely do it.
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Lol I hope you mean "make sure the room is sealed so that Co2 doesn't get out" and not "no in or out vents" like no ventilation? that wouldn't be too good heh

But what do you base your info off of? AN's organic schedule would probably lower my yield by a bit and increase flavor, unless you've seen otherwise?
 
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chronicj69

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not really a big difference in yeild because organic can grow monsters also. but organic is also very slow, compared to hydro
 
Damios

Damios

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FLoJo said:
3 lb on a flat garden with a 1k

thats 1.3 gpw that would be pretty damn good
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Seriously....

Well if it can be done with 1k, then 2k should be no problem.

Still trying to decide on how many plants though.

Thinking between your 16 plant double topping idea, or 28 plants vegged for 2 weeks then lollipoped......
 
AN Addict 420

AN Addict 420

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I understand what you mean, what I meant was none of the air is exchanged in the grow space and CO2 is added and controlled and the lights are cooled with outside air normally. Supposedly AN's organic schedule can yield as much if not more than the sensi 2 plus program. not to mention its cheaper too. Also I think the stuff that makes AN yeild so much are their microbes and Humic/Fulvic acids in the organic lineup the microbes help the roots absorb nutes better while the humic and fulvic acids are natural chelators (do the job of EDTA, EDDHA, etc.) that work in the widest PH range. Not to mention their organics dont seem to have as much PH fluctuation.
 
Damios

Damios

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AN Addict 420 said:
I understand what you mean, what I meant was none of the air is exchanged in the grow space and CO2 is added and controlled and the lights are cooled with outside air normally. Supposedly AN's organic schedule can yield as much if not more than the sensi 2 plus program. not to mention its cheaper too. Also I think the stuff that makes AN yeild so much are their microbes and Humic/Fulvic acids in the organic lineup the microbes help the roots absorb nutes better while the humic and fulvic acids are natural chelators (do the job of EDTA, EDDHA, etc.) that work in the widest PH range. Not to mention their organics dont seem to have as much PH fluctuation.
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Hmm well I'm sold, I'm gonna have to go check that stuff out then, thanks for the info man! :mrgreen: ttyl
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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lol.... GH3 and AN's 3part is basically the same thing.


dont fool yaself. You can call the owner of AN and he'll tell you so himself
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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lol i wouldnt be the best to talk to organics about

im the camp that doesnt think it makes a difference and 'organic' is hella relative
 
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