CommieChase
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Great idea about the organic grow bible thingy. Should be a place about other "radical" ideas as well. I'd be willing to contribute to that.
~ Starting of New Group - RIU Soil/Organic Growers Guild!!
- Thread starter KushCanuck
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I am interested in providing information on topics related to substrate for this group. I have background information that may be useful to growers.
I have done lots of work with most of the media grower here have referred to in discussion.
My first suggestion to any grower is to visit this website www.densucoir.com and hit the research tab to see the results of tests and research results performed by the student body and faculty at the hort dept of the University of Florida.
My aim would be to simplify the amount of information so that you need to make useful decisions by telling you what works.
I am in Ontario, Kushcanuck please contact me.
Good gardening
Musto
I have done lots of work with most of the media grower here have referred to in discussion.
My first suggestion to any grower is to visit this website www.densucoir.com and hit the research tab to see the results of tests and research results performed by the student body and faculty at the hort dept of the University of Florida.
My aim would be to simplify the amount of information so that you need to make useful decisions by telling you what works.
I am in Ontario, Kushcanuck please contact me.
Good gardening
Musto
dirt clean
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hey all, my garden is doing great. will update pics.
well lr2 still has no sex at 24 days, but is fem, and I am about to blast it with its first good shot of P 2 tomorow. I have fed some N veg teas so far.
I have read somewhere that peat had antimicrobial properties? Very bad, lol. so regardless if it is treu I am avoiding it.
I have found Kellog organic at home depot for good dirt. I am also using their compost, worm castings, azomite, dolomite, perlite.
I have a worm bin going but nothing good yet.
I am also sexing a widow cindy, mystery sativa, and a bagseed. they cloned well in rapid rooters.
Lumatek ballasts rock. So do outdoor gardens. Got herbs, tomatoes, and lettuce. hehe, good eats, good smells.
Got some smart pots, but they are 5 gallon and I have comitted to 7 gallons, why not?
SO prob my white widow skunks femmed get 7 gallons and another gets a smart pot.
update some more widow cindy is huge and harder than others to clone. Cant wait for a shot at her being a her.
go bacteria!
well lr2 still has no sex at 24 days, but is fem, and I am about to blast it with its first good shot of P 2 tomorow. I have fed some N veg teas so far.
I have read somewhere that peat had antimicrobial properties? Very bad, lol. so regardless if it is treu I am avoiding it.
I have found Kellog organic at home depot for good dirt. I am also using their compost, worm castings, azomite, dolomite, perlite.
I have a worm bin going but nothing good yet.
I am also sexing a widow cindy, mystery sativa, and a bagseed. they cloned well in rapid rooters.
Lumatek ballasts rock. So do outdoor gardens. Got herbs, tomatoes, and lettuce. hehe, good eats, good smells.
Got some smart pots, but they are 5 gallon and I have comitted to 7 gallons, why not?
SO prob my white widow skunks femmed get 7 gallons and another gets a smart pot.
update some more widow cindy is huge and harder than others to clone. Cant wait for a shot at her being a her.
go bacteria!
GrowKindNugs
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hey dudes, i got my 12/12 from seed garden goin, the journal is in my sig! peace
gkn
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longlizard
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I will be guerilla growing this summer, I have in the past moved growing sites from year to year. A lot of work, alot of ticks and brambles to clear every year.
I have recently found a new hobby in vermiculture. I will incorperate the vermicompost into my growing, in the starter pots, and in the flowering holes I dig. I think I will start a new idea for me this year. I will be adding vermicompost, that contain little worms and worm cocoons. I want to treat these sites as wormbeds, adding composted manure ontop for the worms to feed. As I type, think of worm security, and moles are the problem. I am not even sure if they will be a problem, they are just a insectivore, and this might be an opportunity. Anyway
I will set up my grow sites digging 2x2x2 holes, removing roots and rocks. Returning all the soil, adding and mixing vermicompot and aged manure to the hole. I think 33% of the holes mass or 2.66 cuft of amendments, this will create a raised bed. I will do this next year and maybe one more year after that, maintaining the previous years bed with aged horse manure as food for the worms. This way I will let 2 of the 3 sites go pasture like serving two purposes, nutrient building and security from use.
I was thinking of even planting a cover crop, to hide and revitalize the site. I think a clover or alfalfa, attracting deer away from my true grow site. I wonder if there is a cover crop that moles hate and worms can tolerate.
I have recently found a new hobby in vermiculture. I will incorperate the vermicompost into my growing, in the starter pots, and in the flowering holes I dig. I think I will start a new idea for me this year. I will be adding vermicompost, that contain little worms and worm cocoons. I want to treat these sites as wormbeds, adding composted manure ontop for the worms to feed. As I type, think of worm security, and moles are the problem. I am not even sure if they will be a problem, they are just a insectivore, and this might be an opportunity. Anyway
I will set up my grow sites digging 2x2x2 holes, removing roots and rocks. Returning all the soil, adding and mixing vermicompot and aged manure to the hole. I think 33% of the holes mass or 2.66 cuft of amendments, this will create a raised bed. I will do this next year and maybe one more year after that, maintaining the previous years bed with aged horse manure as food for the worms. This way I will let 2 of the 3 sites go pasture like serving two purposes, nutrient building and security from use.
I was thinking of even planting a cover crop, to hide and revitalize the site. I think a clover or alfalfa, attracting deer away from my true grow site. I wonder if there is a cover crop that moles hate and worms can tolerate.
x15
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speaking of worms, you can also make a tea with worm poop & alfalfa pellets.
you'll need
1 - five gallon bucket filled with water
- about 3 big handfuls of alfalfa pallets (compressed horse feed)
- a handful of worm poop (dry or fresh doesn't matter)
- nylon stocking from your gf
- put the pallets & poop into the socking and tie it off so the ingredients do not fall out (I tie it off to the bucket handle)
- drop this into the 5 gallon bucket of water and let it sit for about a week until it stinks to high heaven and begins to bubble & foam
- use as a concentrate
mix a quart of the concentrated alfalfa pallet & worm poop tea into a 2 gallon jug of water and 1 large tablespoon of molasses (unsulphured). mix it well.
pour in the soil and sprinkle onto the leaves, yum yum stinky stinky
the plants love this
dirt clean
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Hey all, i got a vermiculutre rubbermaid going with drainage holes and a loose paper lid with metal screens over it.
I noticed that are little flies crawling all over the bins! Bugs are new to me and bad. I have ladybugs in my tent. These bugs just outside my grow room will get into the mj easily if I dont do something.
I neem oiled the whole thing. I also added olive oil, garlic, and some dish soap. I also need oiled everything! I mean everything outside with a mist and surface dernched my reg outdoor crop growing on my apt balcony. My reg I mean good smelllers and good eats.
I also read about a cup of something? What was that? I assume sugar but thare is none in da house. Lol. SO, I am lazy about putting on shoes and put out some tobasco water for now.
what works best. Thesae guys are little crawlers in the compost. Black, ugly, and growing wings. They are starting to fly around the outside garden and I am a little freaked they mite get inside. My indoor pest control is ladybugs and I like them so far.
I am on an 20/4 light schedule but can go to an 18/6 so I can spray plants at lights out with something like neem which I got plenty of. I write about lights as it needs time to dry as we all know HID will kill wet plants in a day easy.
any takers. Also I am not happy at all at the way my vermi garden started out. I used just trandom kitchen waste and even tho it is a 1000 worms in half an 18 gallon they seem non existent.
I have read more and now see how to do this better. I plan to get a pro worm bin soon as long as a pro 30 day composter soon too.
kick ass. Go BMO,
I noticed that are little flies crawling all over the bins! Bugs are new to me and bad. I have ladybugs in my tent. These bugs just outside my grow room will get into the mj easily if I dont do something.
I neem oiled the whole thing. I also added olive oil, garlic, and some dish soap. I also need oiled everything! I mean everything outside with a mist and surface dernched my reg outdoor crop growing on my apt balcony. My reg I mean good smelllers and good eats.
I also read about a cup of something? What was that? I assume sugar but thare is none in da house. Lol. SO, I am lazy about putting on shoes and put out some tobasco water for now.
what works best. Thesae guys are little crawlers in the compost. Black, ugly, and growing wings. They are starting to fly around the outside garden and I am a little freaked they mite get inside. My indoor pest control is ladybugs and I like them so far.
I am on an 20/4 light schedule but can go to an 18/6 so I can spray plants at lights out with something like neem which I got plenty of. I write about lights as it needs time to dry as we all know HID will kill wet plants in a day easy.
any takers. Also I am not happy at all at the way my vermi garden started out. I used just trandom kitchen waste and even tho it is a 1000 worms in half an 18 gallon they seem non existent.
I have read more and now see how to do this better. I plan to get a pro worm bin soon as long as a pro 30 day composter soon too.
kick ass. Go BMO,
South Texas
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Alfalfa is wonderful for the soil & plants. There is a product called "Mole Scram", I seen on the Dirt Doctor's Library. A cover crop for next years grow would be really cool. Along with clover & alfalfa, consider peas & beans also. For best nitrogen induced peas & beans, buy the inocculate seeds for the first years planting. They also root deep, bringing up iron & other minerials to the sufface. Although they don't need nitro ferts, they still would enjoy the other ferts.
dirt clean
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by the way long lizard you should aerate your tea. If you drop an airstone in their the aerobic bacteria population will skyrocket and these are the benficial critters you want to feed your plant.
with no air anaerobic bacteria will form. thse are bad and will ultimately kill your plant. I think in fact that if it smells at all it is actually anaerobic bacteria that is forming and you are in some trouble.
Some smells are ok of course, but I just add that little lesson as the airstone will dramatically increase the effectiveness of your teas. Also try adding steer manure and compost for good eats.
Fuck fish for indoor plants. Prob outdoor, lol.
I love guano.
I am switching to using BMO with top dressed guano as a benficial kicker. ALthoug I have an NPK scale for weed and maybe that is not good. hehe.
with no air anaerobic bacteria will form. thse are bad and will ultimately kill your plant. I think in fact that if it smells at all it is actually anaerobic bacteria that is forming and you are in some trouble.
Some smells are ok of course, but I just add that little lesson as the airstone will dramatically increase the effectiveness of your teas. Also try adding steer manure and compost for good eats.
Fuck fish for indoor plants. Prob outdoor, lol.
I love guano.
I am switching to using BMO with top dressed guano as a benficial kicker. ALthoug I have an NPK scale for weed and maybe that is not good. hehe.
dirt clean
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Also for fun, i have an outdor raised bed that drains, for reg herbs and veggies, and with my all organic soil and organic amendments, including soil drench with molasses and spt, the runoff is awesome!.
I mean i collect it in a rubbermaid and collected it just sites there and develops foam head. It is brewing like a tea I think. I shake it around every day a few times and have compost and soil in there. It looks like the best looking beer I ever saw. Bacteria must be awesome. Soil also has manure. Some worms in it too.
I mean i collect it in a rubbermaid and collected it just sites there and develops foam head. It is brewing like a tea I think. I shake it around every day a few times and have compost and soil in there. It looks like the best looking beer I ever saw. Bacteria must be awesome. Soil also has manure. Some worms in it too.
South Texas
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Dude, sounds like Temites. I checked the Dirt Doctor's site, Boric acid or Tabasco spray. Liquid sea weed & molasses spray would help alot, also.
dirt clean
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thanks, i have noticed some bugs, maybe one or 2 in the tent now, i hope the lady bugs if any are left, they have disapeared in there, can dosomething.
I will read about them. I have the dirt doctor favorited on the search I forgot, thanks. +rep.
dirt clean
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whoa, dude, termites? me?
anyway, i hope not. I have added a glass of homeade tobasco sauce and another of apple cider vineagar with soap. I found this.
To help control an existing fruit fly problem, try the following:
1. Remove rotten food from the bin when fruit flies are present. Fruit flies often lay their eggs on decomposing food.
2. Tape or staple flypaper strips on the inside of the bin lid, and/or hang a strip near the bin. Flypaper strips can be purchased cheaply at most hardware stores.
3. Create a fly trap to put in the bin. A bowl of apple cider vinegar with a drop of dish detergent, placed near the bin, will attract and kill flies. Change liquid regularly to keep fly trap potent.
4. Place a whole sheet of newspaper on top of bin contents. Change this sheet regularly as flies tend to congregate on the newspaper.
5. Sprinkle lime in the bin to neutralize excessively acidic conditions.
6. For temporary relief, take bin outside and leave uncovered for up to four hours to air out the bin (out of direct sunlight).
I have already caught something.
anyway, i hope not. I have added a glass of homeade tobasco sauce and another of apple cider vineagar with soap. I found this.
To help control an existing fruit fly problem, try the following:
1. Remove rotten food from the bin when fruit flies are present. Fruit flies often lay their eggs on decomposing food.
2. Tape or staple flypaper strips on the inside of the bin lid, and/or hang a strip near the bin. Flypaper strips can be purchased cheaply at most hardware stores.
3. Create a fly trap to put in the bin. A bowl of apple cider vinegar with a drop of dish detergent, placed near the bin, will attract and kill flies. Change liquid regularly to keep fly trap potent.
4. Place a whole sheet of newspaper on top of bin contents. Change this sheet regularly as flies tend to congregate on the newspaper.
5. Sprinkle lime in the bin to neutralize excessively acidic conditions.
6. For temporary relief, take bin outside and leave uncovered for up to four hours to air out the bin (out of direct sunlight).
I have already caught something.
longlizard
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Here is a nice Canadian link for worms
http://www.organicagcentre.ca/DOCs/Vermiculture_FarmersManual_gm.pdf
GrowKindNugs
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enjoy these guys! my last grow, diesel ryder cured for 20 days and some iso wash hash i made today...everyone should check this out if you've never heard of it, it's really awesome and the end product bubbles and is really dank! http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=66497
i used only a couple grams of bud, trim, shake, and then pour a bit of the alcohol into old nug jars, vigorously shake then repeat in other jars with same liquid. i ended up with a gram of this wonderful dark brown candy...peace and have a great saturday night
gkn
i used only a couple grams of bud, trim, shake, and then pour a bit of the alcohol into old nug jars, vigorously shake then repeat in other jars with same liquid. i ended up with a gram of this wonderful dark brown candy...peace and have a great saturday night
gkn
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GrowKindNugs
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i'm not sure what you mean by "stock creating happiness" ????? no idea in fact...