palmspringsbum
Active Member
Thanks for the compliment.
As far as the tax on cigarettes, it's classic drug-dealer SOP; get them hooked and then squeeze them dry.
Calling it anything else is pure mendacity.
You Really Want It Legal?
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As far as the tax on cigarettes, it's classic drug-dealer SOP; get them hooked and then squeeze them dry.
Calling it anything else is pure mendacity.
justatoker
New Member
Liquor is legal, but you cant make it at home or its ilegal. IMHO it will be the same with weed even if it does become "legal". I could never understand how the GVT can make it illegal to smoke a plant that grows wild.. A plant that needs no chemical proccess like Coceine/Heroin etc.. Its just damn plant for crying out loud.. Pull it from the groud,Dry it,Smoke it.. THATS IT.. Its basically the same as tobacoo.. Except MJ has medical benefits whereas tobacco kills people and is addictive. IMHO the U.S. is taking away our god given rights by telling us we cannot smoke MJ.
greenearth5
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greenearth5
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no, California is the only place in the world looking at out right legalizing marijuana ... no other place is considering a $100 tax because no other place is looking to legalize marijuana
greenearth5
Well-Known Member
actually the goal is to tax them and then to use some of that money to educate the public on the health concerns attributed to the consumption of tobacco.... depending on where you are you can grow tobacco at home ... you can not tax anything out of existence.. it will simply just go to a black market.. like marijuana
greenearth5
Well-Known Member
i think you are way way way underestimating how much tax revenue marijuana would bring in... cali alone thinks they can get a couple billion a year in revenue... i realize your post was just a guesstimate and im here to support it but broaden its horizon.... i think there should be the regular tax for hemp.... no special tax... its just hemp which is a good fiber for our economy....
greenearth5
Well-Known Member
if you live in the USA then you can make liquor at home... no license.. no bullshit... my family has been making wine and beer for years now.. we can brew it openly and buy the ingredients in the taxed and regulated market... nothing about brewing beer is illegal in the USA
justatoker
New Member
wine and beer yes.. LIQUOR NO.
lozac123
Well-Known Member
hmm, why has no1 talked about holland? near the start of this thread utbob, (or whatever the thread starter was called who also never responded to show me ur million dollar stash),said that weed would loose its value. in holland its decriminalised, yet its still over €5 a gram for good weed.
5x27g= 135 for an oz
16x135= €2160 for a lb
ok, minus 33% mark up, thats €1447.2 per oz.
from opened up markets allowing growers nd dealers to sell more, youre laughing your way to the bank.
that $100 a lb was bullshit man.
5x27g= 135 for an oz
16x135= €2160 for a lb
ok, minus 33% mark up, thats €1447.2 per oz.
from opened up markets allowing growers nd dealers to sell more, youre laughing your way to the bank.
that $100 a lb was bullshit man.
NationalForest420
Well-Known Member
I see where he is getting at if I were an illegal commercial supplier of marijuana. Aside from the violence and jail time I can see the luster of the million dollars for growing a great plant.
Anyone who wants this illegal is an idiot. My state has a MMS of 5 years for anything over 30 grams, 5 years in jail! How about the "family man growers" utbob, how they going to raise their kids being in jail for 5 years. Now imagine it being legal. Owning a coffee shop growing, selling, leagally. Being able to have a job you love, and having no risk. Profit would be fine, and every lost job due to legalization would be gained back by all the industry gains. I can't believe anyone would want it to stay illegal, on this site atleast. It's a natural plant and we are not allowed to have it, how stupid is that law. Anyhow if you are making half a mil off of your crop its just a matter of time. Not like DEA cant pull an I.P address and pressure the ISP for user info, and set up on any of us.
If I had to miss 5 years of my life, 5 years of my kids life's becuase I wanted to grow some plants it would be a horrific ordeal. Besides getting raped in jail....
If I had to miss 5 years of my life, 5 years of my kids life's becuase I wanted to grow some plants it would be a horrific ordeal. Besides getting raped in jail....
texascollegestudent
Active Member
perhaps if more people would start smoking it. but it's pretty well accepted that more money is spent enforcing marijuana laws than would EVER come out of taxing it. more money is spent on controlling marijuana than all other drugs combined!
texascollegestudent
Active Member
okay i meant to quote you, not the guy above.
texascollegestudent
Active Member
yeah, you're right about the market correcting itself.. those people would certianly get new jobs and the economy would be much better off and efficient! but Faux news would be all over that shit like white on rice. you'd see nothing but the hard-working laid off conservative whiny bitches complaining about losing their jobs because of a drug loving government. there would be half a million joe-the-plumbers before you knew it. and it's fucked up because this shit needs to be legalized on moral grounds and not economic ones, regardless of whether it's an economic benefit or not!
texascollegestudent
Active Member
what do you know, i was probably right. approx 4 billion a year
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0254/is_n4_v53/ai_16433984/pg_9?tag=content;col1
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0254/is_n4_v53/ai_16433984/pg_9?tag=content;col1
greenearth5
Well-Known Member
well well well what do you know... i think you underestimated your figures lol ... actually i forgot if you were estimating a tax on each joint, a tax on an ounce, or just revenue from marijuana and marijuana related stuff... depending on which it is we can get a different answer.... i read an article that said that if each 1/2 gram joint was taxed $1 then they would get $1Billion a year... I think this marijuana deal will bring it way more revenue then anybody can count... people will come from around the world over to california to tour... it will be awesome.. ill post articles and links below
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As introduced, AB 390 would raise over $1.3 billion in annual revenue by taxing the retail production and sale of marijuana, according to financial estimates provided by the California Board of Equalization. An economic analysis by California NORML estimates that a legal, statewide retail market for cannabis could generate additional revenues totaling some $12 to $18 billion dollars per year
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7814
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][FONT=Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]As introduced, AB 390 would raise over $1.3 billion in annual revenue by taxing the retail production and sale of marijuana, according to financial estimates provided by the California Board of Equalization. An economic analysis by California NORML estimates that a legal, statewide retail market for cannabis could generate additional revenues totaling some $12 to $18 billion dollars per year
http://norml.org/index.cfm?Group_ID=7814
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- An excise tax of $1 per half-gram joint of marijuana would raise about $1 billion per year, as much as the current excise tax on cigarettes.
roachwagon
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I would prefer it stay illegal but loosen the laws on it.
If it were to become legal I would have a lottery system to see who gets to grow. Big Corporations are excluded from growing. Keep it in the hands of the little guy. I would allow 750 plants per operation. 250 for seedling or cloning stage, 250 in vegetative stage and 250 in flower stage. I would then break in down to how many employees handle so many plants. I would want a FDA officer on duty to make sure there is no extra growing going on. These growers in turn sell to the state and then the state sets the price. I think it would be a viable alternative to what is happening now. I know that there is different strains. Higher THC content would command a higher price and would be set acordingly and commercial growers would have an opportunity to pick the strains that they wanted. JMHO This my first post so don't rake me over the coals too much okay. PS I am a medical M user for cancer
If it were to become legal I would have a lottery system to see who gets to grow. Big Corporations are excluded from growing. Keep it in the hands of the little guy. I would allow 750 plants per operation. 250 for seedling or cloning stage, 250 in vegetative stage and 250 in flower stage. I would then break in down to how many employees handle so many plants. I would want a FDA officer on duty to make sure there is no extra growing going on. These growers in turn sell to the state and then the state sets the price. I think it would be a viable alternative to what is happening now. I know that there is different strains. Higher THC content would command a higher price and would be set acordingly and commercial growers would have an opportunity to pick the strains that they wanted. JMHO This my first post so don't rake me over the coals too much okay. PS I am a medical M user for cancer
palmspringsbum
Active Member
you know, I came here and registered because I read in a news article someone I respected was a member here, but jeez - the fake but ads and the other crap "(Learn how i made $5,059 this month for smoking marijuana"), sorry, you don't get to use me to advertise fake bud. I'm outta here.
This whole place is really offensive.
This whole place is really offensive.
