250 Watt MH Grow with PICS

GypsyBush · Mar 5, 2009

WOHOOOO!!!!! :clap:

Looking Good My Friend... :-P

I really wanna see how #3 turns out...

Congratulations..!!!!! and +rep if it lets me... :clap:

lilmafia513 · Mar 5, 2009

everything is going along very nicely tom!
Great looking plants!

tom__420 · Mar 5, 2009

GypsyBush said:
WOHOOOO!!!!!

Looking Good My Friend...

I really wanna see how #3 turns out...

Congratulations..!!!!! and +rep if it lets me...

I too am very excited to see how she turns out. She really bushed out once I induced flowering under the 250 watt HPS. I have been looking into a digital 400 watt HPS housed in a 6 inch cool tube reflector. Do you think I could cool it if I attached duct on both ends one with my fan pulling air and one going to pull in cooler air? I have a 6 inch in line duct booster fan that supposedly puts out 250 CFM's. Let me know man I'd really appreciate it

lilmafia513 said:
everything is going along very nicely tom!
Great looking plants!

Thanks a lot bro, it's amazing how little work I really need to put in to keep 'em healthy and happy

lilmafia513 · Mar 5, 2009

LOL....growing has got alot easier for me too, since i figured that out. Hopefully only about three more weeks for the WW

GypsyBush · Mar 6, 2009

First order of business is...

Sparks came out of the closet and spoke...

Here is what he said...

sparkafire said:
I use Organic Genesis from here http://www.waikula.com/ this stuff is really good I put a half cup in my 15 gal cloner and can run 4 + weeks with no pathogens. Run it in my tubs too no worries and because its a microorganism you can set it up a small amount with some seaweed extract in a 5 gal bucket and stretch the shit out of the gal Tip from the shop i bough it from saving me a shit load of money. But don't take my word for it until the Dillhole "weed Baron" gives his blessing.... LOL I love myself!! yes bugs in that way also..... wanna watch don't you ?

Hope that helps... but if you are like me.. it just confused the hell out of you....

Anyways... that's that...

tom__420 said:
I too am very excited to see how she turns out. She really bushed out once I induced flowering under the 250 watt HPS. I have been looking into a digital 400 watt HPS housed in a 6 inch cool tube reflector. Do you think I could cool it if I attached duct on both ends one with my fan pulling air and one going to pull in cooler air? I have a 6 inch in line duct booster fan that supposedly puts out 250 CFM's. Let me know man I'd really appreciate it

Thanks a lot bro, it's amazing how little work I really need to put in to keep 'em healthy and happy

If you are considering a 400, I say DEFINITELY go with a 600... there is a big difference in the buds...

A cool tube will most certainly work, but your choice of fan is inadequate...

Duct fans are rated for the maximum flow aloowed to pass them without restriction... but that does not mean they drive that much air... especially with ducting and bends and such...

Here is a good choice for the purpose of a cool tube... or the reflector you already have.... looks like 6" flanges right?

GrowBright 4" Inline Fan

tom__420 · Mar 6, 2009

Yeah the reflector I have now has 6 inch flanges. I have been having heat problems in the box since it has been getting hotter outside. Today temps were reaching 86 :wall:

Tomorrow I am going out for the day so I'm going to have to raise the light up a little higher than I would like too since I can't monitor the plants for heat stress

GypsyBush · Mar 6, 2009

tom__420 said:
Yeah the reflector I have now has 6 inch flanges. I have been having heat problems in the box since it has been getting hotter outside. Today temps were reaching 86 Tomorrow I am going out for the day so I'm going to have to raise the light up a little higher than I would like too since I can't monitor the plants for heat stress

That is pretty hot...

Gotta have a good ventilation system...

Good fan for the reflector and a good fan for the exhaust...

I say minimum 4" fan each...

Set it up like this... but I don't think you need an intake fan...

Oh and I just posted another update... :bigjoint:

tom__420 · Mar 6, 2009

I have a 6 inch in line duct booster for the reflector and a 4 inch inline duct booster for the exhaust. Do you think adding a computer fan for an intake would help with the heat for now? I thought that it would be easier to just have passive intakes but now I'm kinda regretting that decision haha

GypsyBush · Mar 6, 2009

tom__420 said:
I have a 6 inch in line duct booster for the reflector and a 4 inch inline duct booster for the exhaust. Do you think adding a computer fan for an intake would help with the heat for now? I thought that it would be easier to just have passive intakes but now I'm kinda regretting that decision haha

you need more exhaust...

not more intake...

you only need active intake if you NEED to bring fresh air from far... otherwise... use all your fans for exhaust...

Heat builds up... and it keeps getting hotter...

Exhausting the hot air is the ONLY way to keep it cool....

Anything you add will help, but it's just a band aid...

You need the right fans...

Don't get me wrong... you can grow in 90 degree weather... just don't expect 1 oz buds...

Do it right... save the money, order the fan... it will pay for itself...

But buying lots of little fans is a waste of money...

upgrading 17.8 times is a waste of money...

Just get the right tools for the job and you will have success...

Guaranteed... :weed:

winkdogg420 · Mar 6, 2009

you can get a high power fan called a "squirel cage" at a local hvac supply for alot cheaper than a hydro store they are bigger and cheaper you might need to build a box around it to keep the noise down!

GypsyBush · Mar 6, 2009

Good call...

Stanley makes one that sells at HD for $45...

Loud though.... gotta put it in a box with foam...

I have seen a thread on another forum, that the dude fitted round aluminum flanges on both sides... real slick...

tom__420 · Mar 8, 2009

Okay so I got the heat under control thankfully haha :mrgreen:

I shortened the length of ducting on my reflector to allow for air to pull through it easier. The flowering plants are looking awesome I can't wait to get some pics up. I also LST'd the veg clone. I tied her down pretty good so that should open up a lot more budsites. I am gonna try and get some pics up tomorrow of all the progress if I find a chance. Check back around 12 tomorrow :eyesmoke:

Tom

tom__420 · Mar 8, 2009

Does anyone have any experience with the "Valueline 6 Inch Centrifugal Inline Fan"? Is is rated at 435 CFM and for 80 dollars that seems like a great deal. Here is the link: Valueline 6 Inch Centrifugal Inline Fan - Businesslights.com
I'm sure this would be loud but do you think it actually puts out 435 CFM? If anyone has any insight or info let me know and post away :-P

GypsyBush · Mar 9, 2009

not sure Tom...

It probably puts out the cfm, but my question would be for how long...

I paid double that for an ECO fan 6" 424 cfm...

Though one there...

I think I would try the Stanley fan first.. at least it is a major brand... and they have 2 or 3 sizes...

Sorry, I'm not much help there...

tom__420 · Mar 9, 2009

I was thinking about getting one of those stanley blowers but they seem big and loud and probably not as powerful as the valueline 6 inch fan that I posted. It has a 5 year factory warranty and is prob smalled than the Stanley blower. I don't have much space at the top so I have to conserve as much as I can. I'm taking some pics now so check back in a little bit to see some updates. :blsmoke:

winkdogg420 · Mar 9, 2009

STANLEY FAN MODDING

I THINK THE BIGGER ONE RUNS 1660 CFM ON HIGH BUT YOU CAN TURN THEM DOWN!

http://www.icmag.com/ic/showthread.php?t=29341 link to "how to mod stanley blower!" definatly stronger than the http://www.businesslights.com/valueline-inch-centrifugal-inline-fan-p-2045.html and if hung with bungee cords its quiet!

tom__420 · Mar 9, 2009

Vegetative Box

Things are really starting to get crowded in here. I had to remove my pot of Roma tomatoes last night because they were getting too big. In there currently I have one marijuana plant, jalapeno peppers, grapefruit (and two clones cut from her that haven't rooted yet), three different types of flowers for my girl, and some catnip. As you can see I tied down the marijuana plant last night. She adjusted very well to it in less than 24 hours. Here's some pics:

tom__420 · Mar 9, 2009

This is BRILLIANT. Thats the first time i've seen the Stanley Blower modded like that! Very innovative! SOMEBODY MAKE THIS THREAD A STICKY!

They cost about 45 dollors at homedepot or walmart (type "stanley" in HDs search bar). And according to stanley the cfm ratings are:
Low - 1282 cfm
med - 1746 cfm
high - 2181 cfm
Sounds a bit farfetched to me, but we can all agree that this blower is one powerful mofo.

*EDIT* After checking some other mj sites i found out that bostrom155 is correct and that the Stanley company's ratings are fabricated. The Stanley blower outputs about the same amount of air as a 265cfm dayton.

^^^^ The valueline is rated at 435 CFM and this fan puts out about the same amount of air as a 265 CFM fan. If I get a new fan I will most likely take the risk and get the valueline. It says that it is stronger than the stanley and I don't need to dissassemble anything and rig it to dicting.