Will The Presidency Lift Federal Prohibition?
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Kant
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it's hard to tell....obama is smart and he's not going to do something that going to be a blatant slap in the face to the right. If he's going to do anything he might get behind a bill going through congress but i seriously doubt that he will do anything unilateral. I think the major movement is gonna have to be through congress.
NuteGreenwitch
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He won't blatantly slap the Right? C'mon - Not one Republican in the House voted for his stimulus bill and he flat out broke his promise to let any Republican see his "stimulus" spending bill before signing off on it...
Kant
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I didn't say he wouldn't irritate the right but if he tried to legalize pot (even if just mmj) save for people like ron paul, every republican there after would fight every idea obama supports just because he backs it.
CrackerJax
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The first priority of the 'stimulus" bill was to increase Govt. jobs and budgets at state and national levels, NOT reduce them. I'm shocked.....
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GrowingGreenGiant
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i think the legalization of marijuana would do wonders for the economy. honestly the majority of people i know smoke pot. not just my friends, but their parents, relatives, and parents friends even though they try to keep it a secret.
spoadalive420
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Ok, say its legal.....how will companys drug test for new hires, could you choose to purchase you own bobily insurance, accept resposibility for whatever damages you cause........would you just become a scape goat? There needs to be a once and for all, 3 million dollar study on MJ. In depth....well thought out and cost effective. If it was the #1 question on the CNN poll than how about some research cheese from this giant stimulus package? I think that there are more dentist, doctor, lawyer, scientist, just about any field, there are MJ users! And they ussually are bad ass, careful workers.
texascollegestudent
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it'll never be legalized. too many people are making money off of prohibition. same old story -- they can't get away with firing numerous cops, reducing SWAT, putting tens of thousands domestic defense oriented workers out of business. even Americans would never allow it to happen. though that's not to say that the USA would be a far better place with a cogent marijuana policy and industry. i honestly dont think the legalization process is a good idea at this point.
CrackerJax
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They have two years till majority ends. The writing on the wall is already there.
They better hurry!!
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They better hurry!!
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CrackerJax
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So cali. is going to replace their suits with hippies...that'll work 
Even if that happens...i wouldn't move there. No jobs, no state money, weed will be so cheap that growers will be outraged at the loss of capitalist profits.
It's a great place to visit tho...at least Malibu is
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Even if that happens...i wouldn't move there. No jobs, no state money, weed will be so cheap that growers will be outraged at the loss of capitalist profits.
It's a great place to visit tho...at least Malibu is
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NewGrowth
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I doubt it, marijuana tourism would explode I think demand for Cali pot would be even higher.So cali. is going to replace their suits with hippies...that'll work
Even if that happens...i wouldn't move there. No jobs, no state money, weed will be so cheap that growers will be outraged at the loss of capitalist profits.
It's a great place to visit tho...at least Malibu is
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Plus there would be plenty of growers pushing it across state lines. It would create a nightmare for neighboring state law enforcement. They would have no choice but to address it on a federal level as well.But taxing it a $50 an ounce is not really "freeing the weed" IMO. And most people would start growing their own anyway if you charged that much.
Oh Obama's administration announced an end to federal raids too! I'm so high right now.
CrackerJax
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Yah, I guess it will all be in the implementation,which since the Cali. Govt. is involved, it will be convoluted.
If they allow growing without repercussion, that will take the demand for street weed way down.
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If they allow growing without repercussion, that will take the demand for street weed way down.
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NewGrowth
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Yep it would explode with an amsterdam style coffee shop system for sure. Business men would get a hold of it and do all kinds of crazy stuff for sure. Vapor lounges with strippersYah, I guess it will all be in the implementation,which since the Cali. Govt. is involved, it will be convoluted.
If they allow growing without repercussion, that will take the demand for street weed way down.
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Oh the hedonism! Religious right would explode into prayer
And think of the parties, there would be a huge hippie migration just to go hang out in Cali and smoke pot. Ahhh convoluted non-specific California law is wonderful
All this would happen before the Governator could say "duh"
CrackerJax
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Yah, ur right. It would turn into the western Adam. Can't reproduce that atmosphere tho.
So, is Adam officially begging Cali not to do it?
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So, is Adam officially begging Cali not to do it?
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NewGrowth
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Nah they still have all the loud British tourists, they are happy to get rid of the loud americans ones and their Cannabis Cup.Yah, ur right. It would turn into the western Adam. Can't reproduce that atmosphere tho.
So, is Adam officially begging Cali not to do it?
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CrackerJax
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Money is money tho...and Americans TIP
I will admit however quite willingly that almost every altercation i have witnessed has been with either a Brit or an American. I usually dress very Dutch and avoid the tourist areas. On my second trip walking near the Opera house a couple in a car pulled over and started asking me for directions in Dutch. I sheepishly explained I was American, but got a charge that I blended in so well as to look native. weee.
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I will admit however quite willingly that almost every altercation i have witnessed has been with either a Brit or an American. I usually dress very Dutch and avoid the tourist areas. On my second trip walking near the Opera house a couple in a car pulled over and started asking me for directions in Dutch. I sheepishly explained I was American, but got a charge that I blended in so well as to look native. weee.
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Kant
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As much as I would love to see it legalized, I honestly don't think it's going to happen in the near future.
I doubt that obama is going to legalized it. If he ever wants to get anything done as president he's not going to until late in his second term(assuming he gets reelected). Even then he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would unilaterally do something, especially something he's not in favor of doing.
If anything is going to happen is going to have to be through congress. but congress is really slow to change and when republicans get back in power (they will eventually) all the progress we've made will be rolled back. It seems to happen every time. Not necessarily republicans rolling back the progress but progress being rolled back in general. however now it seems like democrats are all that eager to roll things back.
As for the legislation in cali, I think it's a wonderful thing and an important step. However I know it won't last. The reason mmj laws have not been federally overruled by the courts is because they say that given these medical conditions and a doctors recommendation we're simply not going to prosecute you. It's more side stepping federal law, not directly opposing. The legislation in cali would directly violate federal law so it won't stand in court. This is all assumes that it passes.
Even if some states are ready for legalization there's a large group of states that aren't ready for legalization. so that's way i don't think it's going to happen soon. I would say that it's still 15+ years away, but that's my optimistic guess.
I doubt that obama is going to legalized it. If he ever wants to get anything done as president he's not going to until late in his second term(assuming he gets reelected). Even then he doesn't seem like the kind of guy who would unilaterally do something, especially something he's not in favor of doing.
If anything is going to happen is going to have to be through congress. but congress is really slow to change and when republicans get back in power (they will eventually) all the progress we've made will be rolled back. It seems to happen every time. Not necessarily republicans rolling back the progress but progress being rolled back in general. however now it seems like democrats are all that eager to roll things back.
As for the legislation in cali, I think it's a wonderful thing and an important step. However I know it won't last. The reason mmj laws have not been federally overruled by the courts is because they say that given these medical conditions and a doctors recommendation we're simply not going to prosecute you. It's more side stepping federal law, not directly opposing. The legislation in cali would directly violate federal law so it won't stand in court. This is all assumes that it passes.
Even if some states are ready for legalization there's a large group of states that aren't ready for legalization. so that's way i don't think it's going to happen soon. I would say that it's still 15+ years away, but that's my optimistic guess.