Organic AF GWS, AK47, WD/ 400hps Stealth cabinet grow

[got2loveit]

i also read in the guide that cal can be locked out if there is too much K so is it possible that my organic nutes NPK 2-13-14 be the problem?? should i switch to my bat guano 2-10-3?? will this help with the nute lock out or am i on a completely wrong path??

 

[got2loveit]

i found a mineral water with a ph of 7.6 i had once used it on some bag seed and it had worked it has (65mg/l calcium) (5.3 mag) (9Na) (K1.2) (HC03 223 mg/l) (so4 16,5) if i flush my plants with this water will i kill them or make them better?????

 

[DubB83]

i also read in the guide that cal can be locked out if there is too much K so is it possible that my organic nutes NPK 2-13-14 be the problem?? should i switch to my bat guano 2-10-3?? will this help with the nute lock out or am i on a completely wrong path??

Again, you will over fert and make your soil toxic, do not do this. Buy a good pH meter before you add nutes... With NPK less is more! You don't want to give it too much, as they are not the problem. If NPK was the problem the leaves would look different.

2-13-14 should work fine for flowering.

i found a mineral water with a ph of 7.6 i had once used it on some bag seed and it had worked it has (65mg/l calcium) (5.3 mag) (9Na) (K1.2) (HC03 223 mg/l) (so4 16,5) if i flush my plants with this water will i kill them or make them better?????

This will also kill them furthering the lockout. pH is not the only problem, the buildup of salts and other minerals that were already existing in the soil is what is upsetting your plant.

Give it only pure H2O to the roots and mix up a 1/10 dilution mix of your fertilizer and use it as a foliar feed after a week of the pure water regimen. Feed in the plant's morning time just when your lights come on to avoid burning your leaves with magnified light. Only foliar feed every 3 days as a minimum and only if the plant looks like it needs a micro nutrient. You have to work through the salts you have built up by processing what you can at the root level without stacking more buildup on top.

Your problem is a macro nutrient problem. I suggest after the flush to find some Hygrozyme and rebuild your dirt micro organism collony to help your plant break down the salts and turn them into macro nutrients.

 

[got2loveit]

thanks alot dub man ur some good help!!! so from what i gather i should go buy distilled water (pure H2O) and water for a week. after this week i should also foliar feed with a very low content dilution 1/10th of suggested dose from what i gathered. at what time should i use the hygrozyme?? if i use mollasses will this not help the micro organisms or is this wrong again??

 

[got2loveit]

and the thing is that im two weeks from harvest on these plants.........

 

[got2loveit]

so i dont need the cal mag dub this way do i??

 

[got2loveit]

and WTF is this thing with needing to spread more rep before giving u more i dont want to give rep to just any dude DUB IS THE DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[DubB83]

thanks alot dub man ur some good help!!! so from what i gather i should go buy distilled water (pure H2O) and water for a week. after this week i should also foliar feed with a very low content dilution 1/10th of suggested dose from what i gathered. at what time should i use the hygrozyme?? if i use mollasses will this not help the micro organisms or is this wrong again??

Correct. Molasses is to feed the micro organisms, but if they are not dissolving your salts then there are not enough micro organisms, Hygrozyme will rebuild your organisms. Don't give them any more food than they need.

and the thing is that im two weeks from harvest on these plants.........

Then you don't need to dilute the nutrient solution and foliar feed. Just give it plain 'o water until harvest.

If you decide to give it a shot of foliar feed with nutrients be sure to foliar feed with pure water just a few days before harvest to wash off any undisolved nutrients.

so i dont need the cal mag dub this way do i??

I would not suggest it just yet, I think it can be fixed with pure water for now.

Don't stress too much though, your plant will do good. You have done well with it.

 

[DubB83]

and WTF is this thing with needing to spread more rep before giving u more i dont want to give rep to just any dude DUB IS THE DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ha ha ha, thanks for the compliments!

 

[got2loveit]

thanks for the help man!!! i surely have been stressing im sooo planning on this harvest have been smoking bad weed for 2 f long!! when work is over im off to go buy distilled water and hygrozyme!! should i flush my plants or only water dud?? should i apply the hygrozyme or wait to see how the distilled water handles it??? thanks alot again bro!!!

 

[Titan4jah]

That dude Dub said it all man. i would water until you get some run off at the least. like a quarter gallon do this every three days until harvest for like a week and your smoke will be smoother.

edit, and i wouldent applay nthe hygro inless you plan on letting them go for another 14 days at least, nits expensive and that would almost be a waste. and if you go the costco you can get a reverse RO for 200 bucks flat that will give you all the clean water your girls need.

 

[got2loveit]

ok bro thanks alot thats what im gonna do il water every three days with distilled water and hope this clears things up!! that RO system is my next purchase along with some cal mag and hygrozyme this shit aint happening again!!!!!! once more thanks alot for stopping by and for the help titan!!!!!!!

 

[Titan4jah]

its all good bro, haveing alot of runnoff with every watering thru out the whole grow is good because it flushes out excess salt that will build up with heavy ferting

 

[got2loveit]

i always water enough to have some good runoff in general but i guess because these were in bigger pots with more soil and i gave 750ml fixed every watering that it wasnt enough to create a good runof il give them more water next times!! again thanks alot titan!! have to spread some god damned rep around before giving u more and this rep system is getting on my nerves!! i want to rep people who help not just anyone first so i can later rep the people i want!!!

 

[DubB83]

No problem, glad to help.

I only suggest the hygrozyme if the watering doesn't work and you plan to wait a few more weeks until harvest.

How do your trichomes look today?

 

[richjames]

Keep up the updates got2, lemme know how this works out for ya. I essentially did the same thing a few days ago to one of my girls and she's coming back around again. $200 for a RO system, damn that sounds pricey, but then again, I like the idea of not having to buy water all the time since i use distilled. Anyone know if the RO would work for salt too? My tap water comes from as water softener so I've yet to take my chances usin it.

 

[DubB83]

Keep up the updates got2, lemme know how this works out for ya. I essentially did the same thing a few days ago to one of my girls and she's coming back around again. $200 for a RO system, damn that sounds pricey, but then again, I like the idea of not having to buy water all the time since i use distilled. Anyone know if the RO would work for salt too? My tap water comes from as water softener so I've yet to take my chances usin it.

Hard water would be better than soft water. The soft water is BAD for your plants, they remove the good minerals like calcium and iron and replace it with salt. You will end up with a similar problem. I built my own RO filter to clean my soft water. Now my water has a PPM of 10 or less coming out of the filter.

I never deal with filling my flowering reservoir, just empty it. My RO system is in my tent so I just let it go.

 

[got2loveit]

tricomes are 70%milky 20%clear and 10%amber!!! i should wait till 80%of them are amber right dub?? i won some good money playing cards yesterday so i think il be getting my RO sooner than i thought!! No cal mag in my hydro shop though and no hygrozyme so i hope the distilled water does the job!! they have some additives with almost 0 NPK il go there today and ask if it gives life to micro organisms!! otherwise il maybe apply some molasses or do u think its a bad idea dub?? i was very curious how i caused this whole thing i added a kilo of bat guano to 50litres of compost when i should have added max 350grams for that volume so i put more than twice as much!! anyways my AK's new growth has a much lighter green color so i think their craving for some nutes il update pics when i get back from tho store!! later guyz

 

[DubB83]

tricomes are 70%milky 20%clear and 10%amber!!! i should wait till 80%of them are amber right dub?? i won some good money playing cards yesterday so i think il be getting my RO sooner than i thought!! No cal mag in my hydro shop though and no hygrozyme so i hope the distilled water does the job!! they have some additives with almost 0 NPK il go there today and ask if it gives life to micro organisms!! otherwise il maybe apply some molasses or do u think its a bad idea dub?? i was very curious how i caused this whole thing i added a kilo of bat guano to 50litres of compost when i should have added max 350grams for that volume so i put more than twice as much!! anyways my AK's new growth has a much lighter green color so i think their craving for some nutes il update pics when i get back from tho store!! later guyz

I harvest when there are no clear trichomes and there are bout 60% amber. I like more of an upper body high than a couch lock high, harvest when they are more amber if you don't want to leave your couch for a few hours.

Wow! I'm surprised your plant is not screaming for more help! The bat guano definitely is going to kill your pH, unfortunately your going to be flushing as much of that out as possible, kinda a waste.

350g vs 1000g OMG! Good thing it is organic and with organics your plants are more resiliant.

Your AKs sound like they could use some N. During flowering it is normal for AKs to yellow up towards the end though.

Think about getting some Thrive Alive B1 in the red bottle if your doing RO water also, it will help the plant with stress and keep the micro organisms happy. The red bottle is for purified water and the green bottle is for hard tap water.

 

[got2loveit]

you can see in these pics the extent had to take them out and picture them under normal light!! im giving them distilled water and foliar fed them with a 0.9%N 0.2%p 0.1%k 0.28% cal 0.12%mg and some other micro nutrients formula at 1/10th of dose!! tell me what u think!!