Stealth Hydro Bubbleponics 1st Grow

Jmade

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midgaar said:
Leave it on 12/12. Your plants are on auto pilot now just sit back and watch em grow. Change your res out every week or two and check the pH every couple days and you'll be fine. Don't feel the need to do something every time you check on your plants, this is the biggest rookie mistake, over caring for your plants. Leave the roots alone, leave the leaves alone, and maintain a pH of 5.2 - 6.2. You will see buds within a couple weeks.
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Hey thanks a lot for the encouragement... this is my first grow, I am a rookie and you're right... I had plans on doing a few things when I was there yesterday, but decided not too, just to let them be.
 
emericakush714

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Roseman said:
A kit with 2 Light bulbs and 2 Clamp Reflectors, a tank, air pump and tubes, air stone, water pump and tubes, irrigation hub, 6 grow cups, Timer, Air stone, 6 month supply of premeasured pH balanced Nutrients, including VEG, BLOOM and MICRO nutes, a jar of pH UP, and a jar of pH Down, pH test strips kit, 6 rockwool cubes, pound of hydroton rocks, and 2 3-way extension cords, is $189.

The bubbles are used in two ways, one, there is an air stone IN the water, giving oxygen to the roots, and there is an under water pump, pumping oxygen enriched nutes and water to each plant's root base, thus the name BUBBLEPONICS.

IT IS SO QUIET, YOU COULD LAY DOWN BESIDE IT AND GO TO SLEEP. It can not be heard a few feet away.
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I know this probrably a dumbass question but how does it not "overwater" the plant?
 
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emericakush714 said:
I know this probrably a dumbass question but how does it not "overwater" the plant?
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Some people LAUGH at the mention of over-watering, in HYDRO, but it is a fact in DWC and in a DRIP system too. When just water is delivered to the cube or root base, you can drown a plant.
This SYSTEM has two things going for it.
  • An air stone (or two) in the bottom of the tank, powered with a small cheap aquarium air pump, bubbling like crazy, adding oxygen to the water. The water is rich in Air or Oxygen. The pump lasts for many years.
  • a 2nd WATER Pump, in the water, pumping BUBBLES, actually a mix of AIR and wATER and NUTES, to an Irrigation Hub, where more air and water are mixed, and through a tube, to each cube and root base. It is not a STREAM of water, but a Bubbley mix of air, water and nutes.
Thier ad says Bubbleponics is:



Bubbleponics™ is the art of delivering highly oxygenated nutrient solution DIRECTLY to the inner root zone. The days of merely misting the outer roots with nutrient spray are over. Gone too are the days of over/under watering, over/under feeding; the Stealth Hydro bubbleponic system automatically maintains the ideal oxygen level of the nutrient solution so as to facilitate a healthy thriving root system.



 
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AND the rapid growth is unbelievable until you see it. More than an inch a day in growth in height.
 
emericakush714

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Roseman said:
AND the rapid growth is unbelievable until you see it. More than an inch a day in growth in height.
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Yeah i beleive it, ive been following this thread and this guys stems are on like steroids! I understand though now, because over watering suffocates the plants right? but this provides fresh oxygen into the roots making it strong as all hell!
 
emericakush714

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This kit looks so cheap and easy because it gives you everything you need to start! cubes lights nutes fin everything for 2 bills?


can you point me to other succeful grows with this system?:joint:
 
emericakush714

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Hell yeah man that the kind of shit im talking about. I have a small closet, if i had to take a guess id say its 3 feet deep 8 feet high and maybe 8-10 feet wide.

I want to get the multi spectrum CFL setup but i noticed the hps system is about the same price. Which one do you find to work best for a relatively small space?

Also, JMade, how are your babies doing im curious...:joint:
 
Jmade

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I visited the Ladies yesterday -

I decided to get a couple more lights to see what impact they would have. during this process I had an awesome idea to turn an old flexible light lamp I had into my light setup, as I was adding the lights I needed more control in my tight space. In this process I managed to drop and bust one of the CFLs that came with the kit, the and it was the Red light. I ended up replacing it with two more 150s it was a 300W I couldn't seem to find anything about a $150 in the hardware stores around here my questions is:

Do I need to get another light from SH? (or will I be ok with the ones I have now?)

also I have noticed the way I have my bubble discs have impacted the plants, I have rotated them to see what happened when they are placed under different lighting and have different Oxygen flow, it has made a Major difference in the size of the leaves

I did some trimming a while back and I cut the middle a little too much on a couple of the plants,

Is this ok? Did I botch something?

It seems as if the light hasn't gotten into the tops to let them re grow because the sides have bushed out and "taken over"

(sorry if these are super NOOB Qs, I've never grown anything before)

Thanks for looking... I'll keep you posted
 

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emericakush714 said:
Hell yeah man that the kind of shit im talking about. I have a small closet, if i had to take a guess id say its 3 feet deep 8 feet high and maybe 8-10 feet wide.

I want to get the multi spectrum CFL setup but i noticed the hps system is about the same price. Which one do you find to work best for a relatively small space?

Also, JMade, how are your babies doing im curious...:joint:
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Consider the fact taht CFLs make NO Heat, and all HID lights need to be Vented with a Fan, to pull out the HEAT.

I use the CFLs..
 
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Jmade said:
I visited the Ladies yesterday -

I decided to get a couple more lights to see what impact they would have. during this process I had an awesome idea to turn an old flexible light lamp I had into my light setup, as I was adding the lights I needed more control in my tight space. In this process I managed to drop and bust one of the CFLs that came with the kit, the and it was the Red light. I ended up replacing it with two more 150s it was a 300W I couldn't seem to find anything about a $150 in the hardware stores around here my questions is:

Do I need to get another light from SH? (or will I be ok with the ones I have now?)

I'd go to Lowes or Home depot and get two 65 or 68 watt 2700 Kelvin bulbs, for $16 each, for Flowering..

also I have noticed the way I have my bubble discs have impacted the plants, I have rotated them to see what happened when they are placed under different lighting and have different Oxygen flow, it has made a Major difference in the size of the leaves

I did some trimming a while back and I cut the middle a little too much on a couple of the plants,

Is this ok? Did I botch something? They will survive.

It seems as if the light hasn't gotten into the tops to let them re grow because the sides have bushed out and "taken over"

The LIGHTs will penetrate the canvas on top. some Side lights do help some tho.

(sorry if these are super NOOB Qs, I've never grown anything before)

Thanks for looking... I'll keep you posted
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I'll be watching your grow.
 
Jmade

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Got to check on the ladies and everything is going great!

you can see in the pictures how much of an impact that having a good air flow and bubbles will have on the roots, one of my plants exploded in just a few days

I wish I had more money & room for side lights, they would greatly help the end result One of my back plants (the one with crazy root growth) has seemed to have one side almost wither away and another take over... it seems that there isn't enough light?

the stems are starting to get a little sticky! and it smells Dank!

What type of humidity levels should be optimal for both lights on and off periods?
right now its around the 70 level... it has gotten up to 80% though...

is this a SOG method? how could this have been executed better?

I have 2 more Bloom nute packs, do I need to order more? what should I do when I run out?

I'm going to change the water this Sunday and then next.

Thanks for looking
 

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Jmade said:
Got to check on the ladies and everything is going great!

you can see in the pictures how much of an impact that having a good air flow and bubbles will have on the roots, one of my plants exploded in just a few days


Roots love exposure to oxyegen, and once a week, I drain the tank, wait 5 minutes and re-fill it with the smae water back, just to give the roots an air bath. They love it and I get a growth spurt.
I wish I had more money & room for side lights, they would greatly help the end result One of my back plants (the one with crazy root growth) has seemed to have one side almost wither away and another take over... it seems that there isn't enough light?

CHEAP CFLS < on the internet, or go to Lowes or Home depot and get a 65 or 68 watt CFL for $16.

the stems are starting to get a little sticky! and it smells Dank!

What type of humidity levels should be optimal for both lights on and off periods?
right now its around the 70 level... it has gotten up to 80% though...

It doesn't matter much with Lights off, and with Ligths on, you want 40% or more, at least. 50% is very good. You do NOT want a high humdity in the Flowering Stage.

is this a SOG method? how could this have been executed better?

SOG is when you start 12/12 very early, with smaller plants jammed all close together.

You could have VEGGED longer, to get bigger plants, and had more LIGHTS and more oxygen, next time. .

I have 2 more Bloom nute packs, do I need to order more? what should I do when I run out?



I'm going to change the water this Sunday and then next.

Thanks for looking
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Go to Walmart and get some BLOOM or FLOWERING FERTILIZER to finish them off. You want a 5:15:14 NPK for Flowering, or something close to that. First number, (Nitrogen) much smaller than the other two nubmers.
 
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OH BOY IM SOOOO EXCITED lol i've been checking this grow every like few hours just to see new pics lol. i love it im going to buy one of these kits and my parents just kicked me out so now im ready to get a place and rock and roll. LOL is the bubble disc you have the stock one that comes with the kit or did you get extra's??? Thanks Great work
 
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Alright cool. So like roseman are you tutorialing Jmade through this whole grow or what? Cause that would be dope if you could help me with some Nutes and stuff i used to use straight water and pull a half oz off a 16"-22" plant??? Any good for straight water only.... from tap? and for this kit it has some recommended mixing carts have you seen them on the site and do you know if they are close to correct? Happyy Grows
 
Jmade

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7uckytoker said:
Alright cool. So like roseman are you tutorialing Jmade through this whole grow or what? Cause that would be dope if you could help me with some Nutes and stuff i used to use straight water and pull a half oz off a 16"-22" plant??? Any good for straight water only.... from tap? and for this kit it has some recommended mixing carts have you seen them on the site and do you know if they are close to correct? Happyy Grows
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I read through Roseman and Purpdaddy guides, they inspired and helped me get started then once I was set and going, I started the thread and asked for guidance... its helped me more than I thought it could! and keeps on

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Roseman - do you have (2) air-pumps? I just split the line, but regulating that flow has been challenging... i also just 'anchored" that original air disk down with a couple sinkers, but it still seems hard to keep positioned

should i just get 2 different bubble discs, and 2 separate air pumps?

or 1 awesome muli-airpump to run the entire thing?
 
Roseman

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Jmade said:
I read through Roseman and Purpdaddy guides, they inspired and helped me get started then once I was set and going, I started the thread and asked for guidance... its helped me more than I thought it could! and keeps on

ALSO

Roseman - do you have (2) air-pumps? I just split the line, but regulating that flow has been challenging... i also just 'anchored" that original air disk down with a couple sinkers, but it still seems hard to keep positioned

should i just get 2 different bubble discs, and 2 separate air pumps?

or 1 awesome muli-airpump to run the entire thing?
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I use this DUAL air pump with my tanks, and two 12 inch long stones from Walmart. The pump is about $10 at Walmart and supports two stones. I anchor the stones with fishing weights.
I use my old 4 inch round stone in a 5 gallon bucket I made.
You're supposed to anchor the airstone by running the tube under the water pump that is anchored with suction cups to the bottom.
 
Jmade

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I went to go look at the ladies and to change the water, and.. boy have they grown, they drank up about a gallon of water maybe even more.

Should I expect them to stop growing?

When should I start seeing signs of budding and what might those very beginning signs be?

they have gotten quite larger than we had expected, how can you control that? by lighting?

I'm thinking that here within a week or so we should start seeing a change of somesort

After the plants have budded, do I just cut off the stems and then switch to grow with 24/7 lighting again? will that work or are they done for after the harvest?

These are 4 Female PPP plants


Thanks for looking

I'll keep things updated
 

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