Should George W Bush be arrested for war crimes?

[the.fatman.cometh]

I think he should. He's caused more damage than other people who have been arrested for war crimes and his reasons for going to war were just as stupid. Why would Bush care if Iraq had "weapons of mass destruction"? they were never going to go near any Americans and Sadam had no real links with any terrorists. Instead of wasting time and lives in Iraq they should be looking for Bin Laden who is actually a threat to America. Bush is a corrupt idiot, just like others that have been arrested for war crimes before and I think he should follow. The only thing that makes Bush different than the rest is he's the leader of America. The poll should have other options for those who don't think so.

Once again, the poll was not meant as "actual", but "rhetorical", it was meant as a quip to reflect and indicate my opinion, as well as likeminded persons. I now realize I should've put quotation marks over war crimes.
I am glad to see so many people whether for or against Bush expressing their view on Bush and the war in Iraq. Now, if we ALL vote in the future we can try and avoid a similar scenario. I'm leaning towards Obama at this point(being a realist), I mean I would love for Gavel or Gravel, what ever his name is to win, but I just don't think that's realistic.

Peace

 

[medicineman]

Starting to sound a little like Sadaam and the Taliban there med. See they would do what you propose above. And in fact CNN did a story on the Taliban killing people in the soccer/football stadium in Afghanistan.

Guess what it worked. If we did our politicians like that, they might listen to the people. They did this to musolini after the end of WWII, No more dictators. And BTW the Bush regime has probably done as much to some of those renditioned, we'll never know. Maybe my punishment is a little extreme, but there needs to be some sort of consequence to their mis-deeds, Bush-Cheney and the gang. Colin Powell saw the proverbial handwriting on the wall and got out, But even he went before the UN and lied his ass off.

 

[SHOOT2KILL66]

It was just a bit of tough justice like smacking your child if bush had not of stoped this new hitler (sadaam) he would of killed millions of MORE people and he had missiles and he would of got stronger and more powerful 1s and ended up getting nuke,s IF NOT ALREADY HAVE THEM if he was left untouched the world would of been held to ransom by sadaam and bin ladden and them other rouge country,s and they wouldent of been afraid to use them and blow every 1 on this planet up including IRAQ,S

napolean put a ban on weed for this reason his troops just wanted to lye there and not fight all luv,d up say if hitler wasent stoped what would of happend should William Churchill be punished for invading germany

 

[stormcup]

first of all, I DONT hate America and most of American people but I am from Serbia (Balkan) and american government poured bombs down my country in 1999. and as you can see they countinued dropping bombs. that is wrong.
tell george if you meet her to go to hell
by the way I visited the red hot chili peppers concert on June the 26. in Indjija (Serbia).

 

[Reprogammed]

I think a couple of things need to be understood:
1. Sadaam did have W.O.M.D. He used a chemical weapon on the Kurds that killed hundreds of thousands.
2. Iraq had clear ties to terrorists. One of the most influential 20th century terrorists was murdered in his condo in Baghdad. There's even pictures of him with known radical "muslim" terrorists!

 

[GrowRebel]

Well did you even read the resolution? And there are only 2 ways to prove Iraq and Sadaam's government was in violation of the U.N. resolutions.
1. Have U.N. inspectors go into Iraq and inspect everything.

Which Sadaam has denied since before 1991. And would have continued to deny inspectors coming into his counrty.

2. Invade and look for ourselves.

That is probably why Congress gave him permission to do it. They knew Iraq and Sadaam was in violation of the resolutions that you have used as supporting evidence. But have you read them? The resolutions do state that Iraq and Sadaam will have to submit to inspections by the U.N.'s weapons inspectors.

And if you are naive to think that the U.N. is against the actions in Iraq then you should check out these links.

Remarks at the launch of the International Compact with Iraq
<quote>
From Secretary General United Nations:

The MNF (Multinational Forces) have faced great tribulations while executing their tasks. Many lives have been lost in the line of duty. There is no doubt that more must be done to bring a halt to the ongoing violence in Iraq, the brunt of which is being borne by innocent civilians. Beyond the terrorist attacks and sectarian violence, a humanitarian crisis is stretching the patience and ability of ordinary people to cope with everyday life. This makes it all the more important to develop a framework for Iraq’s normalization. Essentially, the Compact represents a road map for the next five years aimed at helping Iraq to achieve its long-term goals of economic prosperity, political stability and lasting security. Much work will be needed to keep Iraq on track, but I am confident that the people and Government are up to the challenge.
</quote>

And this from the Deputy Secretary General
Migiro sees progress in Iraq Compact but urges more international support=

You really show your ignorance .... first of all Hussien did allow inspectors in Iraq and they could not find any weapons ... fact.

Fact ... the illegtimate bush regime lied about the weapon so they could invade a soveriegn nation.

Fact .... congress did not give premission to invade ... that is in the links I provided.

Hussien wasn't in violation of UN resolutions that why the illegitimate bush regime didn't get the second vote from the UN as they said the would ... so the invasion was illegal. It's obvious you didn't look at the links I provided ... to avoid futher embarassment I suggest you study the issue.

 

[GrowRebel]

It was just a bit of tough justice like smacking your child if bush had not of stoped this new hitler (sadaam) he would of killed millions of MORE people and he had missiles and he would of got stronger and more powerful 1s and ended up getting nuke,s IF NOT ALREADY HAVE THEM if he was left untouched the world would of been held to ransom by sadaam and bin ladden and them other rouge country,s and they wouldent of been afraid to use them and blow every 1 on this planet up including IRAQ,S

napolean put a ban on weed for this reason his troops just wanted to lye there and not fight all luv,d up say if hitler wasent stoped what would of happend should William Churchill be punished for invading germany

What planet are you on? Tough justice my ass .... man you are easy ... you obviously don't read the internet news much ... bought right into the lies and parrot them ... hey I got some real cheap land I just KNOW you would be interested in ...

 

[GrowRebel]

I think a couple of things need to be understood:
1. Sadaam did have W.O.M.D. He used a chemical weapon on the Kurds that killed hundreds of thousands.
2. Iraq had clear ties to terrorists. One of the most influential 20th century terrorists was murdered in his condo in Baghdad. There's even pictures of him with known radical "muslim" terrorists!

1. If Hussien did gas the Kurds ... he had the backing and the blessing of the good ole US of A

2. Bull shit ... the CIA reported their are no links between Iraq and terrorists .... before the illegal invasion .... you are watching way too much fauxnews.

 

[krime13]

Even though I do belive Bush should be tried, I think the poll needs to be fair also, simply because we cannot destroy fascism by adapting its tactics.

 

[Reprogammed]

1. If Hussien did gas the Kurds ... he had the backing and the blessing of the good ole US of A

2. Bull shit ... the CIA reported their are no links between Iraq and terrorists .... before the illegal invasion .... you are watching way too much fauxnews.

1. ...yeah...and Clinton personally handed over sarin to Aum Shinrikyo. Do your homework, trafficking in ILLEGAL (as set by the UN Resolution 687) W.O.M.D. would bring the whole fucking world down on our heads. We've done it in the past, sure, but anyone who says we handed over more than basic military supplies to Iraq is a conspiracy theorist of the lowest calibre. And actually, he did this not long before our first conflict with Iraq. That's why the resolution (brought about in 1991) was partway specifically targetting Iraq, and with what? The full blessing and backing of the U.S.

2. The CIA hasn't said a GODDAMN THING along those lines. There are clear connections between Sadaam's administration and arabic operating terrorists, from gift receipts from high ranking members of Taliban and documented meetings of his with Al Qaeda members. My dad (who was in Desert Storm with a specialist Marines division) told me about the mission briefings and debriefings they went through. Shit, it's been public knowledge for over a decade that Iraq has been harboring, and to a certain extent supporting, radical militant Sunni and Shi'a organizations.
And I don't actually rely on mainstream news. Nice try, maybe you should stop watching CNN. Smartass.

 

[SHOOT2KILL66]

Grow rebel your just peaced out smoking them joints what if sadaam wipe out america with 1 of them dirty bombs and left himself control of the world more or less
you,d probily still be sitting there smoking a fat joint saying fuck bush !
bush did right taking this evil man out
innocent people died but if saddam was alive still millions more would of died i agree he could of went about things diffrently but the world sure is a better place now becouse of bush ending sadaam,s empire
And he,s right sort of by not killing bin ladden it would only make his cause grow much bigger but still him and his causes and his extreamest,s need taking out to and the world will be at
peace

 

[jimbo_jim]

War crimes? Not supporting Bush here, but if you remember, well some of you obviously don't, Bush has the authorization of Congress for the Iraq war. Most of those Congressmen/women in the Democrat Party who supported that authorization are now whining about defunding the war and withdrawing the troops in order to appease the Cindy Sheean wing of the Ultra-Liberal Whiner Party. Also remember, Bush had the U.N. sanction to take out Iraq.

So, where's the "unauthorized" war or the crimes?

Vi

Ok so you cant arrest him for that, then there must be other crimes he's commited. I know he used to be a coke head and a drink driver.
oh oh oh I got another 1, how about the mass murder of his own people. Thats got to be worth his arrest surely. Thats not even legal in the Netherlands and even marijuana is legal there

 

[jimbo_jim]

Grow rebel your just peaced out smoking them joints what if sadaam wipe out america with 1 of them dirty bombs and left himself control of the world more or less

1 of what dirty bombs. That was a lie that Bush made up to attack Iraq. They had no supposed weapons of mass destruction

 

[420worshipper]

Ok so you cant arrest him for that, then there must be other crimes he's commited. I know he used to be a coke head and a drink driver.
oh oh oh I got another 1, how about the mass murder of his own people. Thats got to be worth his arrest surely. Thats not even legal in the Netherlands and even marijuana is legal there

Statute of limitations would have run out on any coke or drunk driving arrest. And are you really saying that you would use something from his distant past to have him arrested. Well Bill Clinton said he used mj in the past before he became president. So how has he been mass murdering his own people? Has he gotten the military to round up thousands and kill them? Did he drop biological weapons on entire towns/cities? What proof do you have that he's guilty of mass murder?

 

[420worshipper]

They had no supposed weapons of mass destruction

Actually the United Nations classifies a weapon of mass destruction as:

Any chemical, biological, and/or nuclear device used to kill thousands of people. And since he was using chemical and biological weapons on thousands of Kurdish people in his own country, then yes he was using and did have weapons of mass destructions.

check the link for more on the United Nations classifications and remedies for the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

Search Results: weapons of mass destruction

 

[Plato Is Boring]

Actually the United Nations classifies a weapon of mass destruction as:

Any chemical, biological, and/or nuclear device used to kill thousands of people. And since he was using chemical and biological weapons on thousands of Kurdish people in his own country, then yes he was using and did have weapons of mass destructions.

check the link for more on the United Nations classifications and remedies for the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction.

Search Results: weapons of mass destruction

Guess who was still providing him arms and millions in "grants" after Halabja? Yup it was us, and it is pretty much a given that he used the "dual purpose weapons" we supplied in the case of Halabja. That'd be the reason why Reagan tried to keep it on the hush, hush. There was a really good account of this by the Wall Street Journal reporter who had been the first to stumble onto this. He was a tyrant, but by god he was our tyrant.

 

[420worshipper]

Guess who was still providing him arms and millions in "grants" after Halabja? Yup it was us, and it is pretty much a given that he used the "dual purpose weapons" we supplied in the case of Halabja. That'd be the reason why Reagan tried to keep it on the hush, hush. There was a really good account of this by the Wall Street Journal reporter who had been the first to stumble onto this. He was a tyrant, but by god he was our tyrant.

Yeah but I don't think he was telling the government what he was doing to his own people. He was probably telling them that he would only use it in defense of his own country. Its funny that at the time Sadaam was put into power in Iraq that Bush Sr. was head of the C.I.A. And when he fell out of favor with U.S. was when the same man was President of the country. While he was Vice-President though, Sadaam was our leader in the Middle East. But then again during the Iran/Iraq war during the 80's we supplied weapons/medicine/food to both sides. Remember the Iran-Contra mess going on during that time.

 

[Plato Is Boring]

Yeah, that is quite a coincidence. I never really understood why Bush 41 didn't supply the anti-saddamist with the confiscated weaponry after he invaded Kuwait. Then again, I never really understood why Bush 41 authorized the hundreds of millions in loans afterwards either. Iran-Contra: yeah, i love it when we support terrorists.

 

[420worshipper]

Technically they are not considered terrorists when they are doing what the government wants them to. The only get labeled terrorists when the buck the system. And go against what we want/tell them to do. Look at bin Laden, he wasn't a terrorist during the 80's in Afghanistan when he was working with the CIA fighting the Soviet army. Only became one when he got pissed in the 90's because the leaders of his country asked the US to put military bases in Saudi Arabia after the first gulf war.

 

[Plato Is Boring]

Oh without a doubt; it is like deja vu all over again.