5 strains! Medi-bud, THC Bomb, Mango, SS Haze, J. Herer

DaveTheNewbie

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yeah sorry about the short post before.
actually i am VERY interested in the feminising aspect of your grow.
i would strongly suggest you have more personal experience with water cure before you water cure your whole batch.
i did a bit, and a first i was impressed, but i ended up throwing it all out. you lose the head high sativa aspect of the bud when you water cure.
it becomes a very dull couch lock 'im stoned but im bored as fuck' type thing. really a waste of such beautiful plants as jack herer.
if you are determined to water cure you should use more commercial indica strains that grow fast and bushy but produce average quality bud.
at least thats my opinion.

and as far as mutant plants, sometimes they are the best when they grow out :)

and at personal request from onenumcat im gonna post my latest grow sometime today.

EDIT : here it is : https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/161854-davethenewbie-self-watering-pot-bagseed.html
 

onenumcat

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yeah sorry about the short post before.
actually i am VERY interested in the feminising aspect of your grow.
i would strongly suggest you have more personal experience with water cure before you water cure your whole batch.
i did a bit, and a first i was impressed, but i ended up throwing it all out. you lose the head high sativa aspect of the bud when you water cure.
it becomes a very dull couch lock 'im stoned but im bored as fuck' type thing. really a waste of such beautiful plants as jack herer.
if you are determined to water cure you should use more commercial indica strains that grow fast and bushy but produce average quality bud.
at least thats my opinion.

and as far as mutant plants, sometimes they are the best when they grow out :)

and at personal request from onenumcat im gonna post my latest grow sometime today.

EDIT : here it is : https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/161854-davethenewbie-self-watering-pot-bagseed.html
hi...thanks for the link...wicked, fat little...what is that...a fern??? LOL hahaaha

that is a sweet lil sativa, I can't even see the main stem, for all the side branching after 15 days, impressed!

I'm also growing another sativa, more so than the JH, Super Silver Haze. and, four other, rather potent indica(strong)/sativa mix...Lowryder #2, Medibud, Mango and THC Bomb, simultaniously. they will have a very long harvest period between the 6 of them.
if you're interested in the harvest 'zones' look at my calandar, it's pretty kool.
Harvest Calandar <-----click it!
I'm like you, prefer the 'up' high, h8 couch lock! I'll keep that in mind since I'll have so much time between harvests, except from the last week in april to mid may, heavy harvest then. I'll watercure some, try it, if I like it, do more. when a new strain is ready, I'll water cure, try it, if I like it, do more. then, when a new strain is ready, I'll...well, you get the picture by now...:bigjoint:
however, I don't smoke weed...
I vape. so, I can vape shitty shake, using more, and get the same high as potent stuff. I am vaping some plant matter from my failed first and second grow. fail means to me, my goals weren't met. and plant matter means, to me, just that! it's leaf, stem and whatever remains of the very few buds harvested, very few...did I say that? put into a salad chopper, hehe. after that, when I have enough, I'll make honey oil. It'll be weak, but stronger than tobacco! so I'm hoping, for me at least, that it won't matter what the water does to it. but I will do it little by little...

just so you know, these two LR2's are from the last batch I 'tried' to grow. I germed 13, got 8, 3 died as seedlings, 3 were male, one was a super dwarf 6cm, full bloom, 9wks. I was all set to h8 that strain! now I got 2 females, and I forget actually, but maybe 3 died as seedlings...

I'm actually loving the JH, especially the mutations, whatever the cause. a few of them are the same size as the plants in G1, JH is in G3 all by itself, 11 days younger than G1(G=group, 1 is self explainitory, lol)
I've started LSTing some of them, but I think I'll regenerate one, a few, some of them, haha, so I'm letting some get taller, no LST. most of the strains are getting some LST, except LR2 and SSH, all plants of those strains are 'training'. well off to transplant a medibud and thcb into a single 20L planter, they are going to be new best friends, lol. :blsmoke:
 

onenumcat

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...i did a bit, and a first i was impressed, but i ended up throwing it all out. you lose the head high sativa aspect of the bud when you water cure.
it becomes a very dull couch lock 'im stoned but im bored as fuck' type thing. really a waste of such beautiful plants as jack herer.
if you are determined to water cure you should use more commercial indica strains that grow fast and bushy but produce average quality bud.

EDIT : here it is : https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/161854-davethenewbie-self-watering-pot-bagseed.html
so how long did you cure for? I hear 7 days is the proper amount. but also heard from ppl who did it in 4 or 9. sounds like 7 is a ggod...odd number. also, did you do large or small batches? and did you drain each day? and was your container sealable/sealed? or open/loose?
 

onenumcat

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Why? Ethylene will not cause this Imo...... I always get a slow freak or two also... bad genes IMO...
hi. sry, not ignoring your comment. but it requires more thought and I'm too busy to think. however, I may not need to as you may be correct, bad genes. but I'm looking for any info on prolonged ethylene exposure.
 

eza82

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hi. sry, not ignoring your comment. but it requires more thought and I'm too busy to think. however, I may not need to as you may be correct, bad genes. but I'm looking for any info on prolonged ethylene exposure.
Will cause abscission - yellowing and leaf drop..... Will also cause a flower to deteriate or mature.... AS seed ?? not to sure.... But if kept dry I dont see it cause mautation, it will cause a balance in favour of female tendencies.
 

DaveTheNewbie

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i did the water cure as they said to do on the curing section of these forums
7 days, sealed and burped once a day, god it smells rank.
my theory (i have a theory about everything) is that water cure doesnt take away the THC, but DOES take away whatever it is that makes sativa more fun than indica, think its CBD/CBN but i might be wrong
anyway heres my ponderings on the subject : https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/149715-water-curing-cbd-cbn-water.html
 

onenumcat

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Will cause abscission - yellowing and leaf drop..... Will also cause a flower to deteriate or mature.... AS seed ?? not to sure.... But if kept dry I dont see it cause mautation, it will cause a balance in favour of female tendencies.
that's not exactly what I meant. I know what ethylene can do;

  • Stimulates the release of dormancy.
  • Stimulates shoot and root growth and differentiation (triple response)
  • May have a role in adventitious root formation.
  • Stimulates leaf and fruit abscission.
  • Induction of femaleness in dioecious flowers.
  • Stimulates flower opening.
  • Stimulates flower and leaf senescence.
  • Stimulates fruit ripening.
however, in the quantity of saturation these seeds got, and amount of time, this level of ethylene certainly raised levels of other hormones too. and I'm uncertain what effect this had, as I do not study or utilize those, directly. anyway, I'm going to look into it more...although, it may be fruitless research, because it could just be genetics...as you said.

i did the water cure as they said to do on the curing section of these forums
7 days, sealed and burped once a day, god it smells rank.
my theory (i have a theory about everything) is that water cure doesnt take away the THC, but DOES take away whatever it is that makes sativa more fun than indica, think its CBD/CBN but i might be wrong
anyway heres my ponderings on the subject : https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/149715-water-curing-cbd-cbn-water.html
well, the CBG's cause couch lock, so I don't think it's that. and water cure only forces out, chlorophyll, nutrients, hormones, and such. it doesn't affect the thc %. well, like I said, I'll try it, little by little. if I don't like it, I do it differently. the reason is, my clients come to my home for business. they've never suspected there's a huge pot garden above their heads(on the 2nd floor). an air cure will certainly tip them off, eh?
 

onenumcat

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forgot to post it earlier, but I topped JH #19 and #20, just for shits n giggles. their names are 'the twins'. they look, almost, exactly alike, growin side by side.
also, topped one THCB. I also topped another JH that was already LST'd, since I have so many to play with. the JH are supposed to be tall, so I wanted to see what would happen if one was topped and LST'd.

here's a breakdown of what's been done to the plants, in one post:


G1

  • MB-all 3 LST'd
  • LR2-both LST'd (just for fun)
G2

  • SSH-all LST'd (but I plan to top one, later)
  • THCB-one topped, one LST'd, one normal.
  • Mango-two LST'd, one normal
G3

  • JH-two topped, one LST'd, one LST'd and topped, eight normal.

I won't be topping or LSTing any more of G1 or G2. I may use the supercropping technique if it's necessary. I don't think I'll be topping anymore JH, I just wanted to see what they'll look like at harvest, topped. I may(probably) LST some more of them, but not the two most mature ones...I don't wanna fuck with em, because I want to harvest those two first.
 

growinman

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Hey there, onenumcat! Well, I got in there early enough to get pics today and they all turned out great accept the TB pics...... They are in wk 3/4 and are getting marble sized buds......way slower and smaller than my SuperSkunk. And these guys have really gone through a a stretch: they're about 20" with probably 4" between nodes now. I went straight from clone to 12/12 as I always do. I am running 2 hps 600's over them---shouldn't have stretched like they have....... I 'll tell you, it smells real nice, kind of a citrus like Pledge.......?
I 'll get a better pic. Your little ones are staying nice and squat; it will be interesting to see what they do when you go 12/12.
:bigjoint:
 

onenumcat

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Hey there, onenumcat! Well, I got in there early enough to get pics today and they all turned out great accept the TB pics...... They are in wk 3/4 and are getting marble sized buds......way slower and smaller than my SuperSkunk. And these guys have really gone through a a stretch: they're about 20" with probably 4" between nodes now. I went straight from clone to 12/12 as I always do. I am running 2 hps 600's over them---shouldn't have stretched like they have....... I 'll tell you, it smells real nice, kind of a citrus like Pledge.......?
I 'll get a better pic. Your little ones are staying nice and squat; it will be interesting to see what they do when you go 12/12.
:bigjoint:
I'll pop over after awhile to see your pics. I think my plants are staying so low because of Aerolights, it's about (?) 16-18 in away(if my head gets under there, while working on the plants, my hair singes!). also, I had started the day cycle at 14 hrs and have been increasing it, since last week, little by little...up to about 16 1/2-17 hrs now. I'll stop increasing in a day or so, then decrease it. tonight I'll swap a MH for a HPS, too. of course, my goal, atm, is to produce females(100%, I hope!)...I'll begin the real growth stage a few weeks after flowering, March 1st.
thanks for stopping by.
 

onenumcat

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I was lucky enough to find 2g today...lol, bout $60 each. that'll keep me going for a week or so, until LR2 is ready. yipee!
 

onenumcat

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your mango is rockin my dude! and u got 2 of my favorite smokes too: super silver and jack:weed: im ridin wit u!!! how does lowryder taste?
lol, this is my first time with both SSH and JH.
I'm sure I'll enjoy them immensely. :bigjoint:

herz some sweet pics, imo, lol, of just those strains. and look at this Mango!! looks like a head of lettuce! hahaha:eyesmoke:
Enjoy
:joint:~~~---->>you can have shotgun bud!

pic#1-2: Mango, best, 31 days
pic#3-4: JH, best, 24 days
pics#5-8: SSH, smallest and biggest (maybe), 34 days old
pics#9-10: 'two Mangos in a pot', 31 days
pics#11-14: LR2, swapped HPS today, see both spectrums...6500k MH/2100k HPS. there are 2 26w UVB 'repti glo' bulbs down on them too, to increase potency/thc (experimental?).
we'll see...:weed:
 

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growinman

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Great update, onenumcat! That LR is interesting, that's for sure....

Yeah, I dont know much about where your at.....have a son in the service over there close to you.....space IS a premium, I suppose. What about power?<---expensive?

When I first started the THC Bomb from seed about 4-5 months ago I had them under cfl's and your right, they stayed a lot lower---they just have such stretch.........but the buds are looking promising at 4 weeks....though not like the SS I grow. I 've heard some other good things about the TB as well----knock-your-dick-in-the-dirt stuff is what I hear. Sounds couchy, and smells real nice so far.
TB is right here in front; you can see the SS buds in the middle and how much further advanced they are(12/12 the same day), and there 10 more TB in the back:

The second pic is the TB as of yesterday.......getting buds, nice buds, but slow...........


Look at this:

^^^My SS............ and the TB in the back.......... This table was put in there 2 days ahead of the aeroflo unit..........look at that bud in just over 4 weeks. SS and MoonFlower<---the littler buds; sweeeeeeeeet sh*t, Mang:bigjoint:

I 'll still get a better close-up of the TB for you as soon as I get the chance.......

Right on!!!

r u from there?
 

onenumcat

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thank for the update and kool pics, growinman. I'm in Japan. electric is not too expensive here, but I use a lot of power, grow room and entertainment room, mainly. finding grow equipment is hard. I teach English as a Second Language here. I work for myself, from my home, lol. my grow room is actually a bedroom, but looks more like the size of a prison cell, lol. again, thanks for the pics, I had wanted to get some idea how my thcbomb and ss haze were gonna look. although, mine are only gonna veg for about 5 wks-I'll switch to 12/12 on Mar 1st, 1/16 in soil. how many weeks do you expect, flowering, for the SSH? cuz the only data I have is (+10wks), whatz that mean?? lol and since this is my first successful grow, so far, keepin fingers drossed, I have no previous exp to draw from...

P.S. I use a vaporizer. the first buds I ever 'smoked' with it was yesterday...almost puked...I was so high, never been that high...then fell on the sofa, woke up several hrs later, rofl.
 

warisnottheanswer

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thank for the update and kool pics, growinman. I'm in Japan. electric is not too expensive here, but I use a lot of power, grow room and entertainment room, mainly. finding grow equipment is hard. I teach English as a Second Language here. I work for myself, from my home, lol. my grow room is actually a bedroom, but looks more like the size of a prison cell, lol. again, thanks for the pics, I had wanted to get some idea how my thcbomb and ss haze were gonna look. although, mine are only gonna veg for about 5 wks-I'll switch to 12/12 on Mar 1st, 1/16 in soil. how many weeks do you expect, flowering, for the SSH? cuz the only data I have is (+10wks), whatz that mean?? lol and since this is my first successful grow, so far, keepin fingers drossed, I have no previous exp to draw from...

P.S. I use a vaporizer. the first buds I ever 'smoked' with it was yesterday...almost puked...I was so high, never been that high...then fell on the sofa, woke up several hrs later, rofl.
one of my friends grew ssh for 11 weeks and it was killa! i gotta get me a vaporizer the volcano is a lil pricey though lol
 

onenumcat

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whats up with your lowryder, its tiny. mine were literally 10x bigger when near finnished.

:S
I don't know. maybe its because they're LST'd. they're about 10-12in long, 7in wide. still, there are about 35-30 left before they're done. they just got an increase of 22,000lm, so I hope they start growing faster.;-)
one of my friends grew ssh for 11 weeks and it was killa! i gotta get me a vaporizer the volcano is a lil pricey though lol
kool, I'm looking forward to having this SSH!
this is a nice vaporizer...for the $.

http://www.gotvape.com/images/air_one3_vaporizer_01.jpg
http://www.gotvape.com/store/vapir_air_one3_vaporizer.php
 
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