outdoor texas

mwdtx

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we have had a pretty warm year here already and i was thinkin about gettin a head start and go ahead and get some outdoor plants growin. is it too early to start
 

kevin

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what part of texas? i'm in the dfw area and i'm waiting a few more weeks. i've got starters going to put in the ground when ready
 

Johnnyorganic

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Figure out what your average last spring frost date for in your area.

Place your plants outdoors with confidence on or after that date.

The average last spring frost date in my region falls in the last week of March.

Good luck and good growing.
 

South Texas

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Because the unusually warm winter weather thus far, looking for one big-dog freeze coming, maybe even just before Easter. You have been warned. An outside temp of 50 degrees is the temp in the shade. With a plant blocked from the north/nw winds, full sun can be the temp of 70 to 100 degrees. Mine, out in day, in at night. The only real way I know when the last freeze has passed is when the Mesquite trees bloom. They are never wrong. Heard the same about pecans. But it's all a shell game. Good luck.
 

mwdtx

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Because the unusually warm winter weather thus far, looking for one big-dog freeze coming, maybe even just before Easter. You have been warned. An outside temp of 50 degrees is the temp in the shade. With a plant blocked from the north/nw winds, full sun can be the temp of 70 to 100 degrees. Mine, out in day, in at night. The only real way I know when the last freeze has passed is when the Mesquite trees bloom. They are never wrong. Heard the same about pecans. But it's all a shell game. Good luck.
im about an hour south of ft worth, and i bring them in on cold days or bad weather days, and at night
 

Johnnyorganic

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Your area looks to have its last average frost date April 1-15.

Hardening off the plants outside until then should be fine.

Source: wwwdotncdcdotnoaadotgov/img/climate/freezefrost/Spring32F_hiresdotjpg
 

mwdtx

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Your area looks to have its last average frost date April 1-15.

Hardening off the plants outside until then should be fine.

Source: wwwdotncdcdotnoaadotgov/img/climate/freezefrost/Spring32F_hiresdotjpg
thanks man, that is real helpful. so it will be ok till then
 

Johnnyorganic

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It will not be fine to leave the plants outside indefinitely until after April Fool's Day.

I wrote that it would be fine to harden off your plants until then, which is what you described.

That is a technique where you put the plants out during the day and bring them inside at night in order to acclimate them for permanent placement outdoors after the last average frost date.
 

Bubba Kushman

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It depends on what strain you are growing. If you put Kush out now it will flower early then go back to veg before it flowers again and your yield will suffer big time. PPP does it too!
 

South Texas

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Weed, Peppers & Tomatoes is all "Heat Loving Plants". This does not mean that a Baby will not survive, and/or do good if exposed to cooler weather. I had a (Reject Seed) pop up in the worm farm, and done well, when temp low was 28 degrees. But Baby was blocked off from cold north wind, in southern exposure where the sun & worn activity had the soil well above the said temp. Afghan strain, seed set in ground since last Oct. before popping. I eventually transplanted the Baby, in & out, with my other Babies. My cat pissed into the pot, killing the Baby. Killed 5 of 12, actually. 3 days ago, another popped up, after "germing for 5 months. Wild flower seeds will set dormant up to 5 to 7 years. For proof, use a tiller to unearth buried seed, and all of a sudden, the garden is filled with unwanted weeds. Tilling also exposes direct sunlight to micobes, which kills them, like MG.
But the point is in this post is that it is a fact that if you get your heat loving baby-80 degrees max. potential into a cooler temp climate, let's say March, that Baby will do ... survive. However, the cool temp stunts the growth. What has been proved time & time again, that the plants set outside when the soil temp is minimum of 65 degrees, as opposed to plants set out early... the later, smaller plants will grow faster, and out grow the earlier set out plants. And soon, double the growth & production. When a plant does not have the imposed hurdles to content with, it will be all that it can be. Be careful when playing with Mother Nature. Hope this helped.
 

mwdtx

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Weed, Peppers & Tomatoes is all "Heat Loving Plants". This does not mean that a Baby will not survive, and/or do good if exposed to cooler weather. I had a (Reject Seed) pop up in the worm farm, and done well, when temp low was 28 degrees. But Baby was blocked off from cold north wind, in southern exposure where the sun & worn activity had the soil well above the said temp. Afghan strain, seed set in ground since last Oct. before popping. I eventually transplanted the Baby, in & out, with my other Babies. My cat pissed into the pot, killing the Baby. Killed 5 of 12, actually. 3 days ago, another popped up, after "germing for 5 months. Wild flower seeds will set dormant up to 5 to 7 years. For proof, use a tiller to unearth buried seed, and all of a sudden, the garden is filled with unwanted weeds. Tilling also exposes direct sunlight to micobes, which kills them, like MG.
But the point is in this post is that it is a fact that if you get your heat loving baby-80 degrees max. potential into a cooler temp climate, let's say March, that Baby will do ... survive. However, the cool temp stunts the growth. What has been proved time & time again, that the plants set outside when the soil temp is minimum of 65 degrees, as opposed to plants set out early... the later, smaller plants will grow faster, and out grow the earlier set out plants. And soon, double the growth & production. When a plant does not have the imposed hurdles to content with, it will be all that it can be. Be careful when playing with Mother Nature. Hope this helped.
well i am starting a few different good swag seeds cause i got two different nutes and i wanna see which works best
 
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