Anyone listen to real music?

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edux10 said:
do you guys actually read posts this long?
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I have often times found that at various sites I frequent many people just skim what I write and some don’t even bother to read them. But then I more write them for myself, for my enjoyment than for any other reason so I really don’t mind if people just skim them or ignore them. I have my fun and that is all that matters to me.
 
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for people calling hip hop simplistic, so what? Even though some really isn't. I can see where you are coming from, but if you feel something you feel it. For all the genius of led zeplin, i can see what you mean i play guitar and appreciate it but still am not majorly into it, and that makes you all better than me:lol:.
 
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Well i have not passed any judgment on anyone's taste in music. That's one of the joys of life, choice, at least in a free society. When I mentioned that hipoprocks was a more simple form of music, it was from a technical perspective, not a verdict of being inferior. I suppose if I was in my formative years, I might very well be attracted to Rap and such. That's why they call them the "formative" years. The driving and deep bass line in rap would be enough for me to listen. I do believe that some people do tend to judge a persons potential by lots of arbitrary means, but not me. It's sort of ridiculous for any person to categorically state that his/her taste in music is the correct one or that someone else's taste is inferior.

having said that....smoke a nice big joint and listen to some Pat Metheny... :mrgreen: :peace:



out. :blsmoke:
 
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cookin

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yeah man :joint::joint::joint:. by the way that wasn't aimed at you, was just reading through it all and for some reason got that in my head
 
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cookin said:
For all the genius of led zeplin, i can see what you mean i play guitar and appreciate it but still am not majorly into it,
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Again its all just a matter of taste and there is no real true right or wrong answer or good or bad or correct or incorrect when it comes to taste. All that happens in some cases is what some people love lasts and what some people love dies out.

Look at the big explosion of bands in the early 80’s and how big some of them were and the big hits they had.

Where are they now? Instead of playing packed venues for a living they’re saying , uhhhh do you want fries with that? Do you want that supersized? Yet they were big stars, famous people at one time.

Some went on to do other things that were still music related and have done some really great work. If you watch many movies and pay attention to the credits you will see the lead singer for Oingo Boingo’s name very often. Danny Elfman has done the music scores for MANY major movies and lots of lesser ones so he still has an impact but not in a direct way like in the past. But many others are pure nothings now, just trivia questions. They were the Jerry Mathers’ of their generation, they became "The Beaver."


One of the things about true rock is that it had a major influence of blues in it originally. Many really major bands began as blues or mostly blues bands. Even some of the British invasion had a strong blues influence in their music and Led Zeppelin is one example. Much of their music has a strong blues influence to it. Another would be the Rolling Stones.

Many American rock bands began with a very blues-like sound and some still retain a good bit if it. The Allman Brothers Band was one of them. When they were young their real life was almost like the Lynyrd Skynard song "The Ballad of Curtis Loew." Greg and Duane’s mom really didn’t care much for blacks and the black blues musicians they hung out with and played with but in time she came around and appreciated them and liked them.

While it really didn’t show up much in their music later before Black Sabbath hit it big and kept changing names and were working day jobs so they could play at night and on the weekends they were into blues.

Its considered to be the first real American art form when it comes to music and it influenced British musicians heavily and true blues was sort of the rap of its era in that it was about struggle and survival and sadness, often about females instead of cops though and it wasn’t militant like some rap, but it was in part a reflection of the lives of those playing it and others like them and it hit home with a lot of people but the music itself was so good that those who did not feel or related to the message of the lyrics could still really enjoy the sound and then later enjoyed the same basic sound with a more rock edge to it in both British rock and American rock.

To me that is where rap is lacking and why I don’t think it will survive the test of time. It is only my opinion but I don’t see people in 50 years remembering and listening to even the biggest rappers of today but they will still know who John Lee Hooker was or who B. B. King was or who Bo Diddley was or who Albert Collins was and still enjoy their work. I may be wrong and due to my age I won’t be around to find out for sure but it is just something I really believe.
 
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cookin said:
yeah fair point, it will be a shame though if in years people aren't lighting up to smoke buddha by redman:bigjoint::bigjoint:
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As long as they are still lighting up I don’t care what they are listening to.

For all I care it can be music played on the "mouse organ" from one of the episodes of Monty Pythons Flying Circus is that is what they are into.


It’s the lighting up that’s the most important part of it all in my opinion.
 
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indianaman said:
if i had a million dollars... well, i'd spend it all.
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If you had a million dollars you would not want to work and you would want to live off of it and try to turn it into two million too. That is what happens when you get that first million. Well at least if you earn it, if you had to work to get it. If you win a lottery or Aunt Ethel dies and leaves it to you then you might spend it like a drunken sailor on shore leave because you will think it is a ton of money and not really appreciate it and what it takes to earn it and the next thing you know you are selling your Porsche because you can’t afford the insurance on it anymore and you’re working at Lowes or Home Depot of at some job where your main duty is to say …. Uhhhhh ….. do you want fries that that? Do you want that supersized?

If you work for it, if you earn it you will not want to spend it. Did you know that most self made millionaires mainly buy used cars? They know the value of a dollar and they know that the money they save buying used can and will work for them so they do not waste it and they let it work for them. Many will also finance a car instead of paying cash, as in a check, for it because they will normally have investments that will bring enough that it is worth it to pay interest and keep their money working for them.

On the other hand most people that inherit large sums of money will buy new cars and spend like mad and that is because they do not know what it takes to earn that money and they tend to think that it will last forever. In some cases some are lucky to inherit enough that it will last forever but some don’t and they learn a hard lesson in life.
 
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if i had a million dollars i would build a million dollar grow-house with pudding pool and midget butlers. monkey chefs and topless supermodel maids, if the economy keeps getting worse i'll be lucky to get 49 hotpockets and a toyota corolla
 
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