onthedl0008
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Eh bugs.. Whats the hottest temps u would say ur room could get without causing plant doom? With the new lamp im pushing near 86 degrees.. Do i need to take the lamp out?
SOG growers wanted !!!
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GypsyBush
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Thanks man... it's a good thing I harvested a few days before surgery... got plenty from the last batch still and some more about ready for the jars...
So glad I had mostly indicas this time... even a bit green and uncured it did the job the "dilaudid" could not do... put me back to sleep....
Oh hey, I can't remember shit right now... I have taken more than 10 pills and smoked about 30 bowls...
you have ebb flow trays right??? what size?
I noticed the other day that mine (<2x4 botanicare) were bowing severely during flood... and much less with just the plants... but still...
Kinda freaked me out... is that normal... do they hold up pretty good or do I need to support them from below?
Thanks Brother...
and oh sorry you couldn't resist, but I did put big red warnings on that post...
grandpabear3
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no, leave the lamp. and i keep mine at at damn near constant 75. altho i have pushed 85 but they started showing signs of heat stress. what kind of cooling options are available to you? i forget sorry.
i know......actually i'm an ex paramedic.....that is a boo-boo......know what i mean?good. glad to hear you have good medicine around
fuckin pharmacuticals.....wait a minute that aint spewld rite izzit
hippie
i have the same as you 2x4 botanicares lots of em...lol...all of them are on tables made of 3/4" pressure treated plywood so they have support all the way across. no bowing
sure thing
and oh sorry you couldn't resist, but I did put big red warnings on that post...
onthedl0008
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Its cool man i guess im gonna have to pick one of those damn ac units up! Fakin 500 bux to cool a damn walk in closet. Shit man oh well.
Home depot carries some but not in stock till march they said Fak!
Im venting a/c from the rooms ac vent. Not cutting it!
I need to cool tube the lamps. God damnit!
Home depot carries some but not in stock till march they said Fak!
Im venting a/c from the rooms ac vent. Not cutting it!
I need to cool tube the lamps. God damnit!
GringoLoco
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Just a thought, but you could add CO2 which let's the plants grow great in high heat - just a thought, would be cheaper than an A/C and would increase your yield.
Just my $0.02
onthedl0008
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Man Is this my cheap miracle? Explain this to me sir. Im paying attention now.
GringoLoco
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Though efficient movement of air has a positive effect on a number of processes, its greatest effect is seen on carbon dioxide availability. For photosynthesis to take place, carbon dioxide and light must be available to plants in adequate quantities. Carbon dioxide is naturally present in the atmosphere to the extent of 300 ppm while the light is provided by the lighting system installed in the grow room. Plants in the grow room will, over a period of time, consume the available carbon dioxide necessitating fresh supplies of the gas. In the absence of air movement the process would stop. The venting of carbon dioxide depleted air and addition of fresh, cool carbon dioxide rich air ensures that this does not happen and carbon dioxide is always available for uptake by the plants.
The uptake of carbon dioxide from the surrounding air happens through stomata - microscopic openings on the underside of the leaves. Carbon dioxide absorbed by the stomata is used to make Adenosine Triphosphate (ATP), the major source of usable chemical energy in metabolism. Humidity and temperature ranges trigger the opening and closing of these openings to regulate internal processes. Air temperatures within 65-80 deg. F are ideal for indoor grow rooms. The upper limit can be raised to 85 deg. F with carbon dioxide supplementation. It has been shown that higher temperatures up to 90 deg. F increase the rate of photosynthesis. Beyond 90 deg F, the stomata close to cut excessive transpiration. This starves the plants of carbon dioxide with disastrous effect on yields.
I run a very light CO2 addition which brings the level up to ~800ppm and my temps hover ~82F - 85F with no ill effect.
GringoLoco
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True, many systems to supplement CO2 can be costly, but some would be cheaper than $500 for A/C and would also increase yield, an added bonus in anyone's bookCO2 is not exactly cheap. To do it right you need a regulator, tanks, LIMITED EXHAUST, CO2 refills. It will certainly add yield and allow higher temps but it is several hundred $ to setup + a constant supply of CO2.
Decisions, decisions
I got away fairly cheap by using existing equipment near my grow area
onthedl0008
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Fak it im going on craigslist to see if i can find one of these upright ac's Im going to also look into a co2 set-up..If im going to grow then i might as well just grow or step out of the grow altogether man.. Im in single rez situation in side the flower room. I must get my room temp at least 70 degrees constant.
My rez reaches maybe 76 during the day and thats scary.
Anyone got a link on a good ac unit that can be used as well as a co2 set-up?
My rez reaches maybe 76 during the day and thats scary.
Anyone got a link on a good ac unit that can be used as well as a co2 set-up?
GringoLoco
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A quick fix to keep your rez cool is to freeze water in one gallon jugs and place them in your rez, replacing everyday.
Here is a CO2 DYI for ~$100, it's meant for aquariums but could easily be adapted to meet our needs. http://www.cichlid-forum.com/articles/diy_pressurized_co2.php
livesoul
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Hey fellas, i decided to wait a couple days to transfer my clones. I'll let the roots get a little longer. But i took the opportunity to get my flower room setup. I did not realize how many things i had left unfinished, like setting up the electrical to the f'n room! Damn. Anyways, spent all day getting it setup. Come monday i'll be transferring about 18 clones into this room. Also i decided instead of breaking the 4x4 table into quarters for the SOG rotation i'll be doing it length wise. It works out easier to be able to get to the back of the tray since i can't get to either side of it. The bummer is two of my batchs will be up against the sides. Not sure if that will make a big difference...Anyways, here is the flower room. Last pic is of the moms in the veg cab.
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livesoul
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And here are some pics of my clones and their roots. The rapid rooters have done much better than the plain rockwool. Actually these weren't all "rapid rooters". They were like the generic type that comes in a plastic bag, way cheaper but basically the same thing. You know what im talkin about? The rapid rooters are the square shaped brown ones, the generic ones are the rounded types.
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onthedl0008
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Who cares really the simple fact is they are all pretty much exactly the same, constructed an distributed to compete with each other on the same marketing level i think..
Peat plugs. Pop some cuttings in um and follow some simple rules and u shalt clone. Simply. Its that easy man. Thanks OLD IN THE WAY!
Peat plugs. Pop some cuttings in um and follow some simple rules and u shalt clone. Simply. Its that easy man. Thanks OLD IN THE WAY!
sparkafire
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DUDE ITS CALLED CRAIGS LIST!!!! picked a brand new one up for 60 bucks. Its winter people need to get rid of shit they are not using. My room gets to 85 and i get a bit of stretching but nothing to scream about. Bugs likes his room at at a cool 600 degrees
so its kinda hard to compare grow temps.
sparkafire
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SHow OFF!! Nice job
onthedl0008
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Ive been sketchy about the craigs list but fak it. Im going to do this tommorow when i can think str8. God damnit. I hope i can find an ac unit cheap!DUDE ITS CALLED CRAIGS LIST!!!! picked a brand new one up for 60 bucks. Its winter people need to get rid of shit they are not using. My room gets to 85 and i get a bit of stretching but nothing to scream about. Bugs likes his room at at a cool 600 degrees
Rez temps! Id like to also know what is an acceptable constant temp i should try to achieve. Mine reached 78 degrees today after i added the 400.
PHUCK.
Burning shit down right. Ill be the next person to burn. Ashes to dust.
Ive heard alot of different stuff about rez temps.
Id like to hear it from actual phucking sog growers now.
Im not very happy yall abandoned me.
Bugs is, and prolly will always be an a hole in which i will never get any actual info from, yet i have gotten good stuff from him but he should be placed on medication so that he can be stable enuff to earn a barons night hitman to accompany him in his quests.
God damn son a bish. I need to know man. 78 degree rez temps and high 80 room temps can i harvest or should i just quit. I dont really care anymore but am embarrased i even attempted this without being prepared
phucking shit.
doogleef
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Cloning is easy as long as you keep it simple and take good cuts. I had clones ready to go in 12 days using nothing but water, rockwool cubes, and a heating pad. No nutes, rooting hormone, humidome, misting, none of that crap. Just bottom fed rockwool, moisture and a little heat in the rootzone. 100%