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KaliKitsune

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Do you really think, with the state of the ecomony and places like CA running out of money in 4 days that anyone is going to waste the time and the expense to try to print bills to find out who handled them?

Once they find out who handled them, how will they know who wrote on them? If a thousand people have handled a dollar bill, how will they know which of the thousand did the actual writing?

I know my fingerprints are not on file anywhere, neither are my husbands or my daughters. I doesn't matter how many prints they have if they don't know who they belong to.


Hey Growtech, there used to be the strip club in my area and they used to play the "lotion game" where the girls put on lotion and the men just stuck the money to them, like a warped pin the tail on the donkey. How would you like to end up with one of those bills? Nasty..........

Money doesn't exist, not when the Federal Reserve can print more and it's based off debt rather than hard tangible assets. BTW average cost for all the checking and stuff I mention is less than $2. See, we already developed this stuff about a decade ago. The only thing that you're really paying for is the electricity used in such a query for processing and whatnot, everythign else is automated. The monkeys that do it are paid salary, so they get paid whether or not they run that little bill through a spectroscopic scanner.

As for figuring out who put the stamp on? Carbon dating, and we have that automated as well.
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
Do you remember having your fingerprints taken as a kid? I do.They did it so cops would be able to "help us if we got kidnapped",you know, see if you had been in a room, or touched an object if you went missing that would lead them to you...anyone else remember something like this, or am I nuts?
Do you really think, with the state of the ecomony and places like CA running out of money in 4 days that anyone is going to waste the time and the expense to try to print bills to find out who handled them?

Once they find out who handled them, how will they know who wrote on them? If a thousand people have handled a dollar bill, how will they know which of the thousand did the actual writing?

I know my fingerprints are not on file anywhere, neither are my husbands or my daughters. I doesn't matter how many prints they have if they don't know who they belong to.


Hey Growtech, there used to be the strip club in my area and they used to play the "lotion game" where the girls put on lotion and the men just stuck the money to them, like a warped pin the tail on the donkey. How would you like to end up with one of those bills? Nasty..........
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Mine were never taken, my daughters finger prints were, but I have the 10 card in my possession. The state doesn't keep them here. They print the kids and the parents get the cards.

I'm over 40, so they didn't do that for us.

Also I don't think carbon dating is so exact that it can tell exactly what day in the last year that someone wrote on money. Carbon dating can tell what century, but not a specific day. The burdon of proof is on them as well. How are they going to prove that a person was in possession of a specific bill on a specific date?

Kali, you forgot to take into account the money for the cops to kick on someones door because they wrote "I grew hemp" on a bill. It takes no less than 5 cops to kick in someones door and trash their home. Meanwhile there has to be regular cops on duty too. Then local police departments have to pay for any testing they have done and I'm sure they get charged more that 2 dollars per test. Hell they charge 30 bucks just to deliver a court summons and that takes all of 5 minutes.
 

Stoney McFried

Well-Known Member
You're probably right, but still...there's a copy of my fingerprints out there SOMEWHERE.And I'm paranoid....
Mine were never taken, my daughters finger prints were, but I have the 10 card in my possession. The state doesn't keep them here. They print the kids and the parents get the cards.

I'm over 40, so they didn't do that for us.

Also I don't think carbon dating is so exact that it can tell exactly what day in the last year that someone wrote on money. Carbon dating can tell what century, but not a specific day. The burdon of proof is on them as well. How are they going to prove that a person was in possession of a specific bill on a specific date?

Kali, you forgot to take into account the money for the cops to kick on someones door because they wrote "I grew hemp" on a bill. It takes no less than 5 cops to kick in someones door and trash their home. Meanwhile there has to be regular cops on duty too. Then local police departments have to pay for any testing they have done and I'm sure they get charged more that 2 dollars per test. Hell they charge 30 bucks just to deliver a court summons and that takes all of 5 minutes.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
I would be too. I took that into consideration when they did my kids prints. I didn't want their prints just floating around out there. I smoked weed and figured they might want to grow up and smoke weed to and there's no sense in helping the police oppress them.


You're probably right, but still...there's a copy of my fingerprints out there SOMEWHERE.And I'm paranoid....


Radiocarbon dating is a radiometric dating method that uses the naturally occurring radioisotope carbon-14 (14C) to determine the age of carbonaceous materials up to about 60,000 years.[1] Raw, i.e. uncalibrated, radiocarbon ages are usually reported in radiocarbon years "Before Present" (BP), "Present" being defined as AD 1950. Such raw ages can be calibrated to give calendar dates

[edit] Calibration methods

The raw radiocarbon dates, in BP years, are calibrated to give calendar dates. Standard calibration curves are available, based on comparison of radiocarbon dates of samples that can be dated independently by other methods such as examination of tree growth rings (dendrochronology), deep ocean sediment cores, lake sediment varves, coral samples, and speleothems (cave deposits).
The calibration curves can vary significantly from a straight line, so comparison of uncalibrated radiocarbon dates (e.g., plotting them on a graph or subtracting dates to give elapsed time) is likely to give misleading results. There are also significant plateaus in the curves, such as the one from 11,000 to 10,000 radiocarbon years BP, which is believed to be associated with changing ocean circulation during the Younger Dryas period. Over the historical period from 0 to 10,000 years BP, the average width of the uncertainty of calibrated dates was found to be 335 years, although in well-behaved regions of the calibration curve the width decreased to about 113 years while in ill-behaved regions it increased to a maximum of 801 years. Significantly, in the ill-behaved regions of the calibration curve, increasing the precision of the measurements does not have a significant effect on increasing the accuracy of the dates.[10]
The 2004 version of the calibration curve extends back quite accurately to 26,000 years BP. Any errors in the calibration curve do not contribute more than ±16 years to the measurement error during the historic and late prehistoric periods (0 - 6,000 yrs BP) and no more than ±163 years over the entire 26,000 years of the curve, although its shape can reduce the accuracy as mentioned above

So all that can be told from carbon dating is that the bill was written on at some point during the last 16 years. I don't see that holding up in court.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
You're probably right, but still...there's a copy of my fingerprints out there SOMEWHERE.And I'm paranoid....

Strange, I don't remember having my finger prints taken in school though they were taken when I worked as a security guard. (Really Shitty Boring Job) but they were taken so the state would issue the private investigators/guards license or whatever...

Stupid shit. Too much bureaucracy, and too many stupid laws.
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
Yes, my daughter works with kids and I know we don't want criminals around kids, but she had to wait for 3 hours to get fingerprinted. The government insists on it, but they aren't really big about places to get it done. There is only 1 day out of every month that you can get it done in the city that is 30 miles away.

Oh shit, they do have her finger prints, damn, damn, damn, I forgot about that. Good thing she has access to plenty of latex gloves.

I kept her fingerprint free for all these years, shit........
 

welsh wizz

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Its all to do with the numbers, you need nearly all growers to do it, which is very hard to do, it would make it very hard to track the stamping, you all need to use the same most common ink & stamps. Just a stoners veiw lol.
Was tried in the uk years ago, just a red leaf stamped on the water mark, it failed due to the lack people stamping, not sure if any one was prosecuted?
Iv only ever seen 1 in circulation years ago.
 

Kingb420

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so #1 question is why hasnt someone been arrested or jailed from the wheresgeorge website for already marking the bills?

#2 Its a sad proven fact, but like 96% of our $ has cocaine on it. very small trace amounts, and millions of germs. just wanted to point that out

#3 that does creep me out now about the government getting my fingerprints as a child, + rep to them though, thats SNEAKY!
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
You should ask your parents where the fingerprint card is, they are likely to have it put away somewhere safe.

I wasn't about to fall for that shit, yes you can fingerprint my child, but I'm standing right here and taking the fingerprints with me when I leave.

Shame on those cops, using a parents fear of kidnapping to trick them into handing over their kids fingerprints.

I wonder, since they were so small when they were printed, would the prints still be able to be matched?

Ah-ha

If fingerprints never change, why should I update them each year?
Local, state and federal police agencies have all told us that the formation of the print itself stays the same, but between the ages of birth to about 12 years of age, the depth and clarity of a fingerprint becomes more defined, easier to read and print. From that point on, they say that you should still continue to fingerprint your kids up through age 18. There are many things that can alter a print, even temporarily; it can be as simple as a paper cut, a burn, a cut from a knife or broken glass. All of these and other possibilities can change the immediate and sometimes long term form of a fingerprint. These changes can often help in quicker identification of a found child, saving hours and sometimes days of the identification process.
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
You should ask your parents where the fingerprint card is, they are likely to have it put away somewhere safe.

I wasn't about to fall for that shit, yes you can fingerprint my child, but I'm standing right here and taking the fingerprints with me when I leave.

Shame on those cops, using a parents fear of kidnapping to trick them into handing over their kids fingerprints.

I wonder, since they were so small when they were printed, would the prints still be able to be matched?

Ah-ha

If fingerprints never change, why should I update them each year?
Local, state and federal police agencies have all told us that the formation of the print itself stays the same, but between the ages of birth to about 12 years of age, the depth and clarity of a fingerprint becomes more defined, easier to read and print. From that point on, they say that you should still continue to fingerprint your kids up through age 18. There are many things that can alter a print, even temporarily; it can be as simple as a paper cut, a burn, a cut from a knife or broken glass. All of these and other possibilities can change the immediate and sometimes long term form of a fingerprint. These changes can often help in quicker identification of a found child, saving hours and sometimes days of the identification process.

Wouldn't a more logical solution to the threat of kidnapping be to make sure that your children are never in a situation where they can be kidnapped?

And why would you let your children be sleeping with goats anyway?
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
My kids were never kidnapped, and the cops do this to play on a parents fear. I don't think there has ever been a kidnapping in my county, but everyone ran out and had their kids printed anyway.

It's just a sneaky way to invade your privacy. Just because they have the childs fingerprints doesn't mean they will find the child.



Wouldn't a more logical solution to the threat of kidnapping be to make sure that your children are never in a situation where they can be kidnapped?

And why would you let your children be sleeping with goats anyway?
 

TheBrutalTruth

Well-Known Member
My kids were never kidnapped, and the cops do this to play on a parents fear. I don't think there has ever been a kidnapping in my county, but everyone ran out and had their kids printed anyway.

It's just a sneaky way to invade your privacy. Just because they have the childs fingerprints doesn't mean they will find the child.
I wasn't saying that you had let them sleep with goat Miss, I was being a smart ass...

And yeah, kidnapping hasn't really been that much of a threat since the laws were passed that allowed the FBI to get involved if there was even a suspicion that the child was transported to another state (or enough time had passed that it was possible.)

:: shrugs :: More dangerous is the fact that all these states are talking about cutting their prison populations. While I am sure that there are a lot of people that don't deserve to be in prison, I am also sure that given the "intelligence" of the bureaucrats that some people that do deserve to be in prison will be released.
 

Johnnyorganic

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so #1 question is why hasnt someone been arrested or jailed from the wheresgeorge website for already marking the bills?
Marking a bill does not meet the definition of defacement. A simple mark, or string of words on a bill, does not make said bill unfit for circulation.
#2 Its a sad proven fact, but like 96% of our $ has cocaine on it. very small trace amounts, and millions of germs. just wanted to point that out
A Federal Reserve Note will be exposed to a hell of lot more than a little coke and a few million germs before it is removed from circulation. It's a method of transfer. Go figure.
Most of us try not to consider how many clammy hands have touched the dollar bill we've just been given in our change at the 7-Eleven, but it emerges that cash money could be a prime carrier in the next influenza pandemic.

Those tens, twenties, and even the humble single could spread the virus all around the world. This is the conclusion drawn by the research team of Yves Thomas at the University Hospitals of Geneva, Switzerland. Thomas and his colleagues treated Swiss banknotes with current strains of flu virus to see how long they survived at room temperature. "We wanted to assess the survival of human flu on banknotes, knowing that billions of them are exchanged daily," Thomas told the U.K. magazine New Scientist.

Some strains died after only two hours, but the most common - H3N2 - hung on for a full 72 hours, and even that wasn't the worst of the news. All of the tested influenzas lived far longer when contained in human nasal mucus. Some, in fact, remained wholly virulent for as long as 17 days.
Dirty Money: Your wad of cash might be a carrier in the next flu pandemic - or worse
#3 that does creep me out now about the government getting my fingerprints as a child, + rep to them though, thats SNEAKY!
Anyone who has served in the military is printed just like anyone who's been arrested.

In my state, a thumbprint scan is required to get a drivers license.

Luckily, most LEOs more closely resemble Barney Fife rather than Joe Friday. Unfortunately, some resemble Drew Peterson.

Fed Fingerprint Database Spreads Across U.S.
 

puffntuff

Well-Known Member
We had a pretty big counterfiet episode around here. The FBI came and everything but I don't think anyone got arrested for it maybe one dude for passing like ten grand in fakes. But back to the original point of the thread put a big ass stamp right in the middle over the faces with a mj leaf and decriminalize over it. I think that might get the point across
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
There are banks around here that require a thumbprint to cash a check. We don't go to any of those. We used to go to one of the banks until they started that crap. Who wants to go in and be fingerprinted to cash a check? That negates the driveup window.
 

KaliKitsune

Well-Known Member
so #1 question is why hasnt someone been arrested or jailed from the wheresgeorge website for already marking the bills?

#2 Its a sad proven fact, but like 96% of our $ has cocaine on it. very small trace amounts, and millions of germs. just wanted to point that out

#3 that does creep me out now about the government getting my fingerprints as a child, + rep to them though, thats SNEAKY!
To answer your question in #1 - wheresgeorge was something done by the government to help track currency flow. I worked on that project.
 
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