the hole plant is turning yellow

tusseltussel

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Show me the roots of that plant....that plant is chocking...

Nitrogen??? hell no.....no type of fert will help that plant
that plant is at the end of flowering its useing up its nitrogen its not root bound are you sure you been growin as long as you say
 

vapedg13

New Member
Just stating a general fact that we must kep track of root growth to produce the most possible

I start in 6 inch cups and transplant every 2 weeks... cups to 8" potter...8 to 10 then 10 to 12 after 7 weeks I cut the lights and I get 6-7 oz a plant
 

tusseltussel

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Just stating a general fact that we must kep track of root growth to produce the most possible

I start in 6 inch cups and transplant every 2 weeks... cups to 8" potter...8 to 10 then 10 to 12 after 7 weeks I cut the lights and I get 6-7 oz a plant
as you should with 7 weeks veg. i do about a 8 week veg and have simmilar results about 8-10 oz per plant but thats not what we are talking about the general fact is that this guy has a nitrogen deficiancy wether it be from being so called root bound or not its a nitrogen deficiancy and he will set back his plant more by transplanting or he can keep it growing aand not stall by just giving it what it needs......nitrogen
 

vapedg13

New Member
as you should with 7 weeks veg. i do about a 8 week veg and have simmilar results about 8-10 oz per plant but thats not what we are talking about the general fact is that this guy has a nitrogen deficiancy wether it be from being so called root bound or not its a nitrogen deficiancy and he will set back his plant more by transplanting or he can keep it growing aand not stall by just giving it what it needs......nitrogen
That plant would have done alot better in fresh dirt...i can look at that plant a see the potential it didnt reach.

Were do you get the idea that transplanting will set a MJ plant back???

For that photo I just took... I pulled my plant and rootball out of my potter didnt shock my plant...I didnt hurt the rootball or the plant.....

the key is you have to know what your doing or have alot of practice at it:clap:
 

KaliKitsune

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There is such a thing as root bound, and it affects ALL plants in the same manner.

If you can see roots at the outer edges of your root ball, you're about to be root bound.

THE ONLY SITUATION IN WHICH ROOT BOUND DOES NOT MATTER IS HYDRO/AERO/BUBBLEPONICS, for obvious reasons - you give the roots a chance to breathe after giving them nutes, whereas in soil things will get stagnant and eventually compacted with time and repeated waterings.

When you grow in soil, root-binding becomes a massive problem. I just had to transplant a Sweet Basil plant because of it being root-bound and requiring constant watering.

Also - this is definitely root bound bud. The uniform yellowing across the entire plant and not just older leaves is the giveaway - those plant roots need some aeration and space, ASAP.
 

squints68

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hey thanks for the input. i knew about the leaves turning yellow at the end of its life but the start of the 2nd week of flowering?? it's next watering is later on tonight and i'll give it bump and see what happens.

ps i like how tall the plant is. it fits nicely in my grow box
 

vapedg13

New Member
hey thanks for the input. i knew about the leaves turning yellow at the end of its life but the start of the 2nd week of flowering?? it's next watering is later on tonight and i'll give it bump and see what happens.

ps i like how tall the plant is. it fits nicely in my grow box
Dude giving it some Nitro wont help... pop your ball out

if you dont transplant it your next post in a couple weeks will be why is my plant dying and it will from the bottom up

If your plant looks like this after cutting your lights for 2 weeks....do think after 3-4 weeks more it will be better??? NO
 

squints68

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Dude giving it some Nitro wont help... pop your ball out

if you dont transplant it your next post in a couple weeks will be why is my plant dying and it will from the bottom up

If your plant looks like this after cutting your lights for 2 weeks....do think after 3-4 weeks more it will be better??? NO
then why would the other plant i'm growing in the same size pot is 2 times as big and bushie ???
 

vapedg13

New Member
then why would the other plant i'm growing in the same size pot is 2 times as big and bushie ???
have you even looked at the roots?? do what you want man...its your plants funeral

Wheres a picture of your other plant next to this one?? A compairison photo
 

squints68

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have you even looked at the roots?? do what you want man...its your plants funeral

Wheres a picture of your other plant next to this one?? A compairison photo
here they are

this is the sick one



this is the other one i got and still is groing
 

vapedg13

New Member
hate to be the one to tell you...it has the same problem....

drooping leaves and the ends are curling under...look at the photo its yellowing from the bottom up

You need to transplant both of your plants dude.
 

KaliKitsune

Well-Known Member
Again, that is definitely root bound.

Substitute Horticultural Science Teacher speaking, take my advice or leave it.
 

vapedg13

New Member
i'll ask the same ? when why is the other plant bigger??


ya ask for help... we give it to ya .....a horticulture teacher comfirms the answer.....

Mabey you dont like the answer given......even though you have never popped your root ball out of the potter to comfirm this problem

I guess the old saying is true...ya can lead a horse to water ...but ya cant make him drink

I was just trying to help you make your plant healthy like this one...its at the same point yours is:peace:

 

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jcream

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yea the root may be rotting, or its a nutrients deficency, could mean that u used to much Nutrients, or it could be that the plant is not getting enough nitrogen.iv found that to give the plant more nitrogen pee a little in ur water and water the plant it may sound crazy but i have had results. the more i thnk about it thou im goin to say its the roots they may be rotting only water wen real dry!! if that helps good luck
 

KaliKitsune

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i'll ask the same ? when why is the other plant bigger??
Your other plant is likely bigger because it had smaller and more spread out roots which took up loads more surface area, and the other short one has some thicker roots that dig deeper. This happens often, and it's unpredictable in occurence.

A thorough examination of the root balls of each after harvest will tell your story. Or, alternatively, you can just stick your finger all the way into the soil. You may find roots at the top or you may find roots much further down. Or after harvest just wash the rootballs off, you'll easily see where from when you transplanted.

I just finished a harvest on a plant that was 22 inches tall, yet it only had a four inch deep root system with just one large kind of taproot with other smaller ones coming from that. I had another that was just widespread and thin roots that penetrated all over the place, yet it never grew any taller than three inches.

Take it as you get it - just transplant and quick!
 

KaliKitsune

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i'll ask the same ? when why is the other plant bigger??
yea the root may be rotting, or its a nutrients deficency, could mean that u used to much Nutrients, or it could be that the plant is not getting enough nitrogen.iv found that to give the plant more nitrogen pee a little in ur water and water the plant it may sound crazy but i have had results. the more i thnk about it thou im goin to say its the roots they may be rotting only water wen real dry!! if that helps good luck
This isn't a Nitrogen problem. Nitrogen starts from the bottom leaves, tips first, and works in, then up. That is the natural transport direction of nitrogen in a plant, from old growth to new.

No real sign of a deficiency here, because the yellowing is uniform across the plant entirely, there are no weak-looking areas, no burn spots, no ram-horning, no deformed new growth. Yet there is drooping, and heavy at that, like an overwater. In those 2-liter bottles, were that hydro system that large of a plant could live in there no problem, but soil, not good. It's gotten root-bound and it needs to be transplanted. Roots are likely at the bottom, and once that happens it's time to move the plant to another container, because soon enough they'll be at the sides and then it's crowding time.
 
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