Calling "bullshit" on Change .org

llLOU

Well-Known Member
I'm calling BULLSHIT on change .org
Change.org Weekly a { color: #036; font-weight: bold; text-decoration: none; } a:hover { color: #326EB6; } Change.org presents Obama Transition Team with its Ideas for Change in America

There are four days until the Inauguration, and the country is alight with excitement, not just about the arrival of Barack Obama in the White House but also for the beginning of a new era of civic engagement.

We've tapped into this energy with our Ideas for Change in America, and today we held a press event at the National Press Club in Washington DC to announce the winners of the competition. The 10 winning ideas reflect the diverse interests of the millions of people calling for change across the country, and include ideas for securing universal heath care, LGBT rights, and sustainable green energy. All winning ideas can be viewed at www.change.org/ideas.

The winning ideas were accepted on behalf of the Presidential Transition Team by Macon Phillips, the Director of New Media and the person who oversees our second-favorite website, Change.gov. Macon then addressed the attendees of the event, which included nonprofit leaders and grassroots activists, and spoke about the importance the administration will place on citizen-driven efforts like Ideas for Change.

With almost 8,000 ideas, more than 600,000 votes, and more than 175,000 participants, the Ideas for Change initiative has shown the widespread interest across the country in renewed civic participation and direct engagement in policymaking. And this is just the beginning. Starting next week, each winning idea will be paired up with a sponsoring nonprofit, which will begin a national campaign to translate each into actual policy. We'll be documenting the process here at Change.org, so look out for more from us soon.

As the nation gears up for next week's inauguration -- and a potentially record turnout to watch it unfold in Washington -- our bloggers are busy assessing George Bush's legacy, anticipating Barack Obama's future, and reacting to the actions of a swiftly moving Congress:
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Next week we'll be covering our hopes for how the Obama Administration might address the major issues our country faces, cause by cause. We look forward to including your hopes and to start the process of collectively enacting the change that so many of us seek.

Happy weekend,

- The Change.org Team

Decriminalization of marijuana was the top vote getter, do you see any mention of it in their press release ?????? bullshit:wall:
 

SikSol

Well-Known Member
Go figure, what a load of shit.. bout to send a email and vent some frustration to these pricks.
 

KP2

Well-Known Member
lol, and you really thought it was going to be different? hahahahahahaha!
 

llLOU

Well-Known Member
lol, and you really thought it was going to be different? hahahahahahaha!
I KNOW things will be different,maybe not in my lifetime,maybe very slowly,but the truth will out in the end. Forums like this that encourage and assist new growers will assure it. Organizations like CHANGE.ORG are but a sounding board, we don't need them.:-o
 

OregonMeds

Well-Known Member
Yes they fucked us.

It didn't go to obama himself, he wasn't any part of it, it wasn't even televised, and they must have decided intentionally to list them "in no specific order" because you don't do a poll to find the top 10 ideas and then hide their winning order accidentally.

I'm pissed!
 

NuteGreenwitch

Well-Known Member
I can't believe so many people thought that the word "change" coming from a politician's mouth ACTUALLY MEANT ANYTHING!!! Listen, 4 years go by quickly when times are good... and when times are bad, they crawl by. Let's all make an effort to push these 4 years past us and vote this LYING prick out!

People who say "Give him a chance... he's not even President yet... you're making assumptions too early on what the man will act upon..." - Heh - He's had an opportunity to let words fly out of his mouth in both directions about medical marijuana. In the last Change.gov poll, our idea for ChAnGe was knocked down without any more insight as to why. He doesn't feel he owes US anything. Obama and his administration are going to school you like no others can. The only ChAnGe you will see is change out of your pockets going to scientific research of the big fraud called GLOBAL WARMING!

Obama, NO YOU CAN'T!
 

"SICC"

Well-Known Member
Ok so we got kiced to the curb, what does it matter? they already kno wahts up, they seen it, its engraved in there heads, we were heard
 

NuteGreenwitch

Well-Known Member
[quote="SICC";1933347]Ok so we got kiced to the curb, what does it matter? they already kno wahts up, they seen it, its engraved in there heads, we were heard[/quote]

What does it matter? I guess they are probably hoping and relying on the fact that those words you uttered will be spoken by all marijuana anti-prohibitionists. You know what I can envision in my head? I can see Obama 6-7 months in, getting REAL comfortable in his new placement and laughing with his people about how many potential votes he got just from pot smokers alone.

But see this as it is... he's turned his back on the people ALREADY and thumbed his nose at us... and it is what it is, and now, I guess you're right... what does it matter? :fire::fire:
 

"SICC"

Well-Known Member
you takin this a lil too personal, haha smoke one up :leaf:

rollin over a lil too quick man, the battle aint over :roll:
 

Intellectual Pothead

Well-Known Member
as much as i would love legalization, this country has some bigger problems that need to be addressed first.

but a phony drug war is up there, i think that the change needs to start on a state level, once a lot of states are on board. then the federal government might have no choice, but to legalize, or even decriminalize.

convincing those pricks in the congress is an uphill battle. and i think this battle might be won by 2015, more and more states are changing their laws regarding marijuana.

and i think Obama will be a better president than bush, even though he might not fight for marijuana legalization/decriminalization, but heck a monkey could be a better president than bush. i voted for him simply for the fact that i did not want that moron mccain and his retarded vp anywhere near the white house.

legal or not, it's everywhere and easy to acquire, so i'm gonna keep toking.
 

smppro

Well-Known Member
I can't believe so many people thought that the word "change" coming from a politician's mouth ACTUALLY MEANT ANYTHING!!! Listen, 4 years go by quickly when times are good... and when times are bad, they crawl by. Let's all make an effort to push these 4 years past us and vote this LYING prick out!

People who say "Give him a chance... he's not even President yet... you're making assumptions too early on what the man will act upon..." - Heh - He's had an opportunity to let words fly out of his mouth in both directions about medical marijuana. In the last Change.gov poll, our idea for ChAnGe was knocked down without any more insight as to why. He doesn't feel he owes US anything. Obama and his administration are going to school you like no others can. The only ChAnGe you will see is change out of your pockets going to scientific research of the big fraud called GLOBAL WARMING!

Obama, NO YOU CAN'T!
LOL this is about marijuana not him being president, you already lost that, sorry, get over it. Believe it or not marijuana is not the most important issue our country faces. People act like he is going to change everthing as soon as he becomes president, or even before that apparently. Everybody calm down, he has 8 YEARS to work with.
 

uhprentis

Active Member
as much as i would love legalization, this country has some bigger problems that need to be addressed first
I agree, just want to add the caveat that congress and the senate are supposed to be setup specifically to handle many many issues in order that they can avoid halting progress whenevr they come to an impasse.

Also, given that the economy is one of the major issues, if not 'the' most major issue', I'd wager that the combination of eliminating the blillions spent each year enforcing the prohibition of Marijuana as well as the billions that will be earned directly through taxation would be one of the most sane things that we could do right now.
 

NuteGreenwitch

Well-Known Member
I just think we need to get these old stinking farts out of Congress and the Senate. They have done their duty and are getting too old to keep up with changing times. We need some young blood in, don't you think? Don't get me wrong, I'm not wishing them dead, but I am hoping our younger generation get more involved in politics and start voting the molded cheese out and get the fresh cheese in!
 

munoz1051c

Active Member
i actually did have some hope. this is the way i see it, its all about money for the government. the reason they do not legalize marijuana is because a lot of pharmaceutical companies will go out of business. its funny when i read what someone posted up there about convincing congress to legalize it hahaha there is no way in hell that it would happen, and the reason being is the following; the documentary SICKO by michael moore if you pay attention, the pharmaceutical companies paid off some politicians in congress in order to pass one bill that would benefit these pharmaceutical companies by making the people buy the medicine that they made.
so how the hell can we compete against them?
the only answer i can come up with is to obtain a medical marijuana card and do it legally under the state government, but watch out for the fucking feds, fucking nosy pigs!
 

Zig Zag Zane

Well-Known Member
im mad as fuck....cant believe i seriously signed up and voted for that shit a bunch of times....how typical....not even mention it...:wall:
 

uhprentis

Active Member
the pharmaceutical companies paid off some politicians in congress in order to pass one bill that would benefit these pharmaceutical companies by making the people buy the medicine that they made.
so how the hell can we compete against them?
the only answer i can come up with is to obtain a medical marijuana card and do it legally under the state government, but watch out for the fucking feds, fucking nosy pigs!
I have an answer...fight evil with evil....let's see who would have about the most to benefit were the prohibition of marijauana eliminated

How about RJ Reynollds, phillip Morris, etc? I hear tell they still have some spare $$$ lying around.
 

old pothead

Well-Known Member
Did any of you see Nancy Pelosi on CNN in Aug of 2008.She called on everyone to voice our opinion on marijuana reform.We have done that and now we have another chance to let our voices be heard.Please go to the provided link and leave a comment.There are already 317 comments for the legilization of medical and recreational marijuana,compared to the next highest question with only 64 comments.
We cannot give up,that is what they want us to do.Keep the pressure on them to do the will of the people.Stand up and tell the government we are tired of their failed policies and oppression of it's people.
Please follow the link and leave a comment,do not let all of our hard work be in vain.OPH
http://www.change.org/ideas
 

misshestermoffitt

New Member
I agree, nag them to death. We should start a "naggers club" on here for people who like to nag "the man" about pot.......

I'm behind Stoney's petition all the way


We just have to keep at them
 
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