What's the biggest mistake Bush made?

[Spitzered]

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." - President Bill Clinton, February 4, 1998



"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program." - President Bill Clinton, February 17, 1998

 

[CrackerJax]

didnt matter dude... those buildings were coming down ne way...

9/11 was the best thing tht ever happened to bush

That has to be near the top of the list of stupid things i have read on these forums so far..... well done

Thank you for becoming the poster child showing the failure of the Publik Skool system.



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Spitzered...... well done for the opposite reason. Unfortunately, given the last Congressional election cycle, you are in the minority....... be afraid......be very afraid. Gordon may just be your neighbor....... brrrr.


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[GrowRebel]

Liberals are so predictable, selective memory.

And you bushwhacks who support war criminals are brain dead ... no surprises there ...

Iraq war was illegal and breached UN charter, says Annan



War critics astonished as US hawk admits invasion was illegal



International Law Aspects of the Iraq War
and Occupation



The illegitimate bush regime violated international law which is a violation of US law ...

... isn't funny how people that support war criminals over look these little things?kiss-ass

 

[medicineman]

Yeah, the three stooges, TBT, Jax, & Vi. They all think we that don't support the bush policies are stinkin commies, Pathetic, Manny, Moe and Jax.

 

[diemdepyro]

The lie Powell told at the UN was my breaking point. What was yours?

 

[medicineman]

The lie Powell told at the UN was my breaking point. What was yours?

The re-election or second stealing of the elections. That's when I realized the people were either too stupid, (Evangelicals etc.) or just didn't care. The old "he believes in Jesus" that was enough to sway 30 million voters was a pathetic synopsis on the American people. I had already realized what a Bozo Dubya was, The repeal of Habeas-Corpus, the domestic spying, the Patriot act, etc were just affirmations of what the asshole was about, total control. He even said "It would be a lot easier if this was a dictatorship".

 

[diemdepyro]

Yeah, God told me to exterminate......Bush swears he talks to God and gets answers.
You or I would be institutionalized
if we made such a claim.

 

[CrackerJax]

Med man is quick with the facts to correct our mistakes .... not.


Annan..... be serious.

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[medicineman]

Med man is quick with the facts to correct our mistakes .... not.


Annan..... be serious.

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Facts, facts, we don't need no stinkin facts. The name of the game is what? I'm supposed to answer your claims of rediculous accusations? IE, it was all Clintons fault, yeah right, good try but no cigar. I guess you must have been asleep through the Bush years, figures. A blowjob VS a war that has killed at least 100k and could be closer to 1 million. Any idiot that tries to make that comparison does not deserve an answer.

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

And you bushwhacks who support war criminals are brain dead ... no surprises there ...

Iraq war was illegal and breached UN charter, says Annan



War critics astonished as US hawk admits invasion was illegal



International Law Aspects of the Iraq War
and Occupation



The illegitimate bush regime violated international law which is a violation of US law ...

... isn't funny how people that support war criminals over look these little things?kiss-ass

The entire problem with your claims GrowRebel (besides the fact that they show a seriously disturbed mental state caused by reading too much from the Communist Party, and from the Daily KOs) is the fact that the United Nations does not have sovereignty over the United States, and thus there is no reason why the United States can be expected to adhere to their "laws." Laws which are not legally binding, having no force, except voluntary assent. More to the point, as there was no referendum by the populace regarding support of the UN Treaty any such treaty is not binding on any people other than the President, Senators and Representatives that supported it.

I personally have not signed any treaty with the United Nations telling them that they can tell me what to do. I don't think you or any one else on these forums have signed such a treaty.

Thus, since there is no documents proving that we have contracted with the United Nations to police the world (though ample Contracts to the contrary where the United Nations have contracted the US Military to police the world) your arguments fall on their face.

Now, go run with your tail between your legs, back to kissing the asses of the United Nations, and other leftist one-world government desiring imbeciles that match their imbecilic ideas with your own.

kiss-ass

 

[medicineman]

Uhhh, TBT, I guess you haven't been paying attention, eh. It's the corporations that want one world order, low wages, and complete control. The last vestige of freedom we have is the vote and they are tampering with that, so talk to your greedy buddies about one world order, for it is they that want it desperately.

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

Uhhh, TBT, I guess you haven't been paying attention, eh. It's the corporations that want one world order, low wages, and complete control. The last vestige of freedom we have is the vote and they are tampering with that, so talk to your greedy buddies about one world order, for it is they that want it desperately.

And yet here's GrowRebel marching to their drum. Maybe that makes him that much more of an imbecile. What do you think, Med?

 

[tipsgnob]

That idiotic “what, me worry?” look just never leaves the man’s face.

Failure suits him. It is a stance he learned well while presiding over one failed Texas business deal after another, and it served him splendidly as he claimed the title of president of the United States after losing the popular, and maybe even the electoral, vote.

It carried him through the most ignominious chapter of U.S. foreign policy, from the lies about Iraq’s weapons of mass destruction to an unprecedented presidential defense of torture.

In the years to come, as millions lose their retirement income and homes, we will have occasion to remember Georgie Porgie, who kissed the taxpayers and made them cry before he ran away.

 

[medicineman]

And yet here's GrowRebel marching to their drum. Maybe that makes him that much more of an imbecile. What do you think, Med?

I'm pretty sure" him" is a her.

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

I'm pretty sure" him" is a her.

:: shrugs ::

That doesn't answer the question about your opinion of the fact that he/she/it is marching to the drum of the globalists, whatever they may be, socialist or fascist.

Though I fail to see how either of those are different.

Socialism - State (Political Power) owns everything
Fascism - State (Political Power) controls everything, with very controlled private ownership.

Both of them are forms of tyranny with the slightest of difference between them.

 

[medicineman]

Socialism - State (Political Power) owns everything
Fascism - State (Political Power) controls everything, with very controlled private ownership.
I beg to differ:
Socialism is when the "people" own everything.
Fascism is what we have now, where a few rich elite assholes basically own the government and everything worth owning, factories, shipping companies, construction companies, etc. What we really have is an oligarcic-Plutochracy, basic Fascism, with Jingoism thrown in for good measure. I guess you like it like this,eh?

 

[TheBrutalTruth]

Socialism - State (Political Power) owns everything
Fascism - State (Political Power) controls everything, with very controlled private ownership.
I beg to differ:
Socialism is when the "people" own everything.
Fascism is what we have now, where a few rich elite assholes basically own the government and everything worth owning, factories, shipping companies, construction companies, etc. What we really have is an oligarcic-Plutochracy, basic Fascism, with Jingoism thrown in for good measure. I guess you like it like this,eh?

ROFLMAO - People can not own everything. That in and of itself is an absurd statement. Though it certainly explains why Socialism seems to be a system where slavery of everyone that does not belong to the Socialist Party, or is in their thrall as servants, slaves and dependents is pushed.

But, let me make sure I understand this, in a Socialism (Slavery) System the State/People (whatever you want to label the entity representing the government) owns everything, including its citizens. Is that correct?

Because it sounds like what you just said about Socialism.

 

[GrowRebel]

The entire problem with your claims GrowRebel (besides the fact that they show a seriously disturbed mental state caused by reading too much from the Communist Party, and from the Daily KOs)

Oh yes of course ... anyone that wants war criminals to be held accountable for war crimes must be seriously disturbed ... unlike you ... with your stable bushwhacked mind supporting war crimes and war criminals ... just like your worthless war criminal leaders ... trying to rationalize illegal actions ... and where did you get the DKO? ... see any links in the info I provided? ... or from the CP? ... No? ... part of your delusion ... is it?

is the fact that the United Nations does not have sovereignty over the United States,

Lookie here folks at home ... the bushwhack shows his stupidity again!
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the U.S. Constitution provides for the direct incorporation of treaties into U.S. law. The Treaty Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, Article VI
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Another form of international law that the U.S. is bound by is customary international law.
U.S. Obligations Under International Law

and thus there is no reason why the United States can be expected to adhere to their "laws." Laws which are not legally binding, having no force, except voluntary assent.

Renditions are and were illegal under international law. In particular, they violate U.S. obligations under the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment, a treaty the United States ratified in 1994.
Torture, Rendition, and International Law

Now, go run with your tail between your legs, back to kissing the asses of the United Nations, and other leftist one-world government desiring imbeciles that match their imbecilic ideas with your own.

I have a must better idea ... how bout I point at you and give the Nelson laugh ... ha ha ... I made you look stupid ... again!kiss-ass

God it so easy to make you look like an ass ... do you really mean to do it? ... it's just so easy! ... you must be pulling my leg ... just likes to make my day ...

 

[medicineman]

ROFLMAO - People can not own everything. That in and of itself is an absurd statement. Though it certainly explains why Socialism seems to be a system where slavery of everyone that does not belong to the Socialist Party, or is in their thrall as servants, slaves and dependents is pushed.

But, let me make sure I understand this, in a Socialism (Slavery) System the State/People (whatever you want to label the entity representing the government) owns everything, including its citizens. Is that correct?

Because it sounds like what you just said about Socialism.

Typical fascist arguement, the government owns the people, no, the people own the government, what a concept. Remember the founding fathers. We the people and all that. That's what I want to see. A country where it's government is really concerned about it's citizens, one run by citizens, not by corporations. where people have a say in their work environment. Where people have a say in their health care, a not for profit system, Where people actually have a say in whether the country should involve itself in other countries affairs. Less law enforcement for trivial crimes like drug possession. End the war on drugs, period. Legalize every kind of drug. If you are a nuisance, like a wiped out heroin addict, have a place they could go away from the general population to be an addict and give them lots of shovels to bury the ODs. Let the people be free. Crime is still a crime, no excuses for being under the influence.

 

[diemdepyro]

I own nothing. Especially people.