17,000 Lumens for $194.95. Good deal?

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AnneH

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From stealthhydroponics.com...

"Includes a total of FIVE 105 watt light bulbs; two 30K Spirals, two 65K Spirals and one 50K Tube style bulb. Can be set up to be used for both the pure vegetative and the pure flowering configurations."

The cost is $194.95 just for the bulbs (I will not be buying the reflector).

Is this a good deal?
 
deesbarrett

deesbarrett

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AnneH said:
From stealthhydroponics.com...

"Includes a total of FIVE 105 watt light bulbs; two 30K Spirals, two 65K Spirals and one 50K Tube style bulb. Can be set up to be used for both the pure vegetative and the pure flowering configurations."

The cost is $194.95 just for the bulbs (I will not be buying there reflector).

Is this a good deal?
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I bought a 150w hps light and it puts out 16000 lumens...and I paid 31.50 for it...I would say that is a bad deal...look at e-conolite.com...they have killer lights for great prices.
 
bSmokey

bSmokey

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AnneH said:
Never mind, I'm going with nine smaller bulbs instead

$105.66 for 25,200 Lumens!
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thats not a good deal either lol. you should get upwards of 40,000 lumens for that much money.

http://cgi.ebay.com/400-watt-SWITCHABLE-HPS-MH-GROW-LIGHT-SODIUM-HALIDE-w_W0QQitemZ400007434465QQcmdZViewItemQQptZHydroponics_Seed_Starting?hash=item400007434465&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1309|301%3A1|293%3A1|294%3A50

you get both bulbs that you need. 55,000 lumen high pressure sodium bulb, 36,000 lumen metal halide bulb, ballast and reflector. what more could you ask for on a budget lol
 
superman27nc

superman27nc

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i will sell you some sunshine for $75.00..lol..all sarcasm aside that is a terrible deal..you can get a 250 watt HPS ballast system for a lil over $100 or so...plus a lot throw in MH bulbs too..hope you get a good deal..at least you asked..shows some smarts..smile~
 
bSmokey

bSmokey

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AnneH said:
I'm concerned about power consumption though
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if your concerned about power consumption you should check out some cfls ( compact floro. light ). they use much less elctricity and can still produce staggering results. and their cheap :-P
 
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AnneH

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bSmokey said:
if your concerned about power consumption you should check out some cfls ( compact floro. light ). they use much less elctricity and can still produce staggering results. and their cheap :-P
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I know, that's what I'm talking about

1000bulbs.com is the cheapest I've found so far
 
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koolhand77

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bSmokey said:
if your concerned about power consumption you should check out some cfls ( compact floro. light ). they use much less elctricity and can still produce staggering results. and their cheap :-P
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They produce less electricity but if you want to have the same type of growing power with cfl's you have to match watt for watt a 42 watt cfl equivlant 150 is still only 42 watt. better off with a conversion. I started with cfl's as my plants grew I started to see the ease of one light. if you want power like the big boys you have to do what we do.
 
chrondizzle420

chrondizzle420

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just get whatever gives you 3000 lumens per square foot minimum and if u want better results buy more lights.. EXAMPLE__ you have a 3 foot by 3 foot grow area then you need at least 27,000 lumens.. if you have a 2 foot by 2 foot then u need at least 12,000 lumens..
 
weedyoo

weedyoo

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AnneH said:
From stealthhydroponics.com...

"Includes a total of FIVE 105 watt light bulbs; two 30K Spirals, two 65K Spirals and one 50K Tube style bulb. Can be set up to be used for both the pure vegetative and the pure flowering configurations."

The cost is $194.95 just for the bulbs (I will not be buying the reflector).

Is this a good deal?
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i have nothing but good to say about these lights 20000http://www.contractorlighting.com/high-fluorescent-4lmp-t5ho-120277-p-152.html?osCsid=8da3fb47aa26bb5c0bf27d4647ae1332
 
KaliKitsune

KaliKitsune

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You know, even though the BULB uses that many watts you're not told how efficient the ballast is - 400w HPS uses LESS power than a bunch of CFLs adding up to 400w - all those ballasts compound inefficiency and in reality you'll draw likely 600 watts whereas full-out the 400w HPS will draw maybe 480 with just a single ballast.

If you're going to do fluorescent ANYTHING, T5HO is the way to go until you hit about 200 watts, then HID simply starts gaining in massive leaps and bounds over fluorescent.
 
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atombomb

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KaliKitsune said:
You know, even though the BULB uses that many watts you're not told how efficient the ballast is - 400w HPS uses LESS power than a bunch of CFLs adding up to 400w - all those ballasts compound inefficiency and in reality you'll draw likely 600 watts whereas full-out the 400w HPS will draw maybe 480 with just a single ballast.

If you're going to do fluorescent ANYTHING, T5HO is the way to go until you hit about 200 watts, then HID simply starts gaining in massive leaps and bounds over fluorescent.
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They are not that inefficient, I run 8 42w and 10 26w cfls and my kill-a-watt says they are pulling 600w. If you total the wattage up it comes to just under 600 so they are actually FAIRLY Efficient. My last 2 crops had an 18g cola and also a 20G cola (DRY weight) With enough CFLS they do work. My temps would be well into the 100s with a 600w HPS in my closet. (NO way to ventilate) I am able to produce results SIMILAR to having a HID with a fuckload of CFLS, But dont give false information about them being Inefficient. They were designed around being efficient, Thats why they produce more light with 1/4 of the wattage.
 
KaliKitsune

KaliKitsune

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atombomb said:
They are not that inefficient, I run 8 42w and 10 26w cfls and my kill-a-watt says they are pulling 600w. If you total the wattage up it comes to just under 600 so they are actually FAIRLY Efficient. My last 2 crops had an 18g cola and also a 20G cola (DRY weight) With enough CFLS they do work. My temps would be well into the 100s with a 600w HPS in my closet. (NO way to ventilate) I am able to produce results SIMILAR to having a HID with a fuckload of CFLS, But dont give false information about them being Inefficient. They were designed around being efficient, Thats why they produce more light with 1/4 of the wattage.
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And that math does NOT add up. There is no power transformer on this planet capable of 99% conversion efficiency. Not a single one. There are NO lightbulbs CFL-wise that can even sport the E85% energy-star certification logo. The *ONLY* devices that sport that certification are industrial-grade power transformers/rectifiers/inverters, computer power supplies, and medical power supplies, and EVEN THEN they're only about 88% efficient.
 
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