medicineman
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Why is it always the fault of the left?
lets talk israel
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OregonMeds
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There is no left and right. Life is not black and white or so simple. Those divides are the same problem you're seeing here in the form of jew vs muslim. Everyone thinks they're right and better than everyone else.
TheBrutalTruth
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Because it's there's more scape goats when I group a bunch of people together than when I just try pointing the finger at one. Besides, I wouldn't know who to start with. There's Pelosi, Dodd, Biden, Obama, both Clintons, all of the Kennedys, Miller in California, Brown up here in Ohio, Soros, Bloomberg, the Udall in New Mexico, but not the one in Colorado,
To itemize all the politicians on the left that need their heads examined to determine if there is anything in there would be tedious, and make for much longer posts. Easier just to say the left.
Besides, it's the left that pushed us onto this stupid, self-destructive path of Statism.
Not that the right in the form of morons like McCain and both Bushes don't do their fair share to push us farther. But it's insulting to the conservatives to lump them in with conservatives when their politics are more to the left or bottom or back (depending on how you define the politicial spectrum.)
Left - Anything pushing for more government interference in our lives.
Twistyman
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Because thats their only argument.. President Cheney and his shadow puppet Bush have to spout that shit for their brain dead supporters.. .. like a Karesh mantra..say it and they'll believe... If you can't do shit right..it must be the others fault.. the past 8 years have been exactly that...
TheBrutalTruth
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Don't tell me you haven't learned anything from me landing on Med about residing in a glass house and throwing Stones. Seems that my arguments blaming it on the "left" are not anything different from his blaming it all on Bush
medicineman
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Left - Anything pushing for more government interference in our lives.
Questions. Which party instituted the Patriot act? Which party ripped our right of habeas-corpus away? Which party tortured prisoners? Which party instituted Rendition. Which party started an unprovoked war with a soverign nation. Which party decided to end our phone and any communication freedoms. That's right my friend, the Grand Old Party The party of "conservatives".
Questions. Which party instituted the Patriot act? Which party ripped our right of habeas-corpus away? Which party tortured prisoners? Which party instituted Rendition. Which party started an unprovoked war with a soverign nation. Which party decided to end our phone and any communication freedoms. That's right my friend, the Grand Old Party The party of "conservatives".
TheBrutalTruth
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Neo Cons, Reagan's Democrats, Yuppies, Obama's Republicans,
Still Leftists...
Or worse, the Moral Majority, which thinks everyone should be a saint, and die a virgin...
To paraphrase a character from a Tom Clancy Book, "I ain't Jesus, and what was good for him, isn't good for me, or any one else necessarily."
Twistyman
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Bush did shit, except be a face to put on the real power ..Cheney, Rummy ... I watched an interesting news show that said some floor cleaners at the white house had more power than he did... Cheney, Rumsfield and Rice were the decision makers.... I'm not the one blaming him(bush).. the WHOLE world is...
TheBrutalTruth
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Did I say you were blaming Bush?
medicineman
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I think you said I was and I am. "The buck stops here".
OregonMeds
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The thread is "lets talk israel" how did is so quickly degrade into anything to do with left vs right and all that crap? I can see one person pushes the talk that way but why do others follow?
TheBrutalTruth
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You got confused. You see the KKK was anti-semitic, thus to accuse the right of being Anti-Semitic when they are defending Israel is nothing more than demonstrating how stupid you are.
Now, if I was to say that the reason why Democrats are so hell bent on keeping the poor poor is because they don't want the minority climbing out of the gutter they've been shoved into by the KKK, being a bunch of bigotted assholes then it would hold more water.
Or if I was to say that the Democrats have became what they were supposedly fighting against when they were arguing against racism, and for equal civil rights, it'd hold more water.
To confuse a pro-Israel stance with the anti-Semitism of the KKK (which was largely democrat) just shows that you have no fucking clue what you are talking about.
Microdizzey
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Ok back on topic. There are over a million people living in Hamas. These are average everyday people like us...
If Israel attacks they will kill so many innocent lives over there. And they will have to deal with the Hamas government AND the people fighting back. It will turn into a bloodbath. And most likely other countries will get involved when too many lives are taken.
If Israel attacks they will kill so many innocent lives over there. And they will have to deal with the Hamas government AND the people fighting back. It will turn into a bloodbath. And most likely other countries will get involved when too many lives are taken.
cheeseysynapse
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I think you meant Gaza..........
I guess Israel is just supposed to let Hamas lob rockets into Israel and let them kill their citizens......I guess that's the only fair end to all this........If Israel would just commit suicide there would be peace....
Seriously, the cease fire ended........Israel kept going about its business and peacefully coexisting.......and Hamas noticed that nobody gave a shit that the ceasefire had ended. Nobody was waiting on pins and needles and coddling them..........So, in order to get media attention back on their jihad, they had to bait Israel into a conflict - which they successfully did (and these innocent people you speak of, are being used by Hamas and the PLO for their own political end - they don't give a shit about the people who depend on them, they are merely a tool)...and now western europe and media elites in N. America are wringing their hands over what might Israel do. Cue the condemnations of Israel from the E.U. and U.N.....................
Mission Accomplished!
Nobody manipulates western media like jihadists - I really have to hand it to them.
ANC
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Ok, I steal your shit, and wont give it back... what compromise do you suggest...
I roll over and play dead...
Pall, I live in south africa, where I am told my ancestors came, and stole the land... and guess what. They are all gone.. but decendants are quickly loosing all control and the hold on real estate... do not expect any exceptions in israel.
diemdepyro
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Disproportionate response. What a crock. Having been a soldier I know there is no such thing. They try to kill you....You try to get them to die for their cause. Holy land my ass. That land is cursed.
lets sell both sides band-aids.
lets sell both sides band-aids.
OregonMeds
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Cool good one. But it goes worse than that. You stole his living room and won't give it back. And you won't let him cross the floor to get in and out of his own house except a path you laid out climbing on top of furniture, and even still only after you make him stand for hours every day waiting to be inspected both ways with a full body cavity search.
Oh and you took his job, and bulldozed his parents house, and the whole block they were on, and wired off the neighborhood that used to exist....
Then you're getting close.
by some of your justification's of hamas's actions the american indian would be justified in bombing's and attacks upon american civilians...same difference..well...anyone with a brain knowing the american indians are still being fucked over by a bunch of theif's///o just love the double standard of alot of americans...its cool if we fuck over a bunch of people..but hey..dont you do that..thats not right..for anyone to go murder a third party for the crooked actions of a few will not solve the problem ...and besides that..it is highly imoral ..murdering people..i dont know if you ever seen pictures of little palistinian boys they are teaching to be suicide bombers..those people are nuts..and cannot b e dealt with rationaly..