Mandala Seeds Kalichakra and Satori

sk3tch3

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those are all sensi star @ 14 days exactly.

you got ngt that is the best way, but when i take 50 clones at a time by meyself, at 2.00 in the morning, i get lazy. i cut and put in a bowel of room temp water and superthrive. when the bowel is full. about 10 cuttings, i have two shot glasses of root hormone, dip n grow. place the 10 or so cuttings in the two glasses and take my next cuts. when those are in the bath, i put the cuttings from the root hormone to the plug. easy process just super time consuming.

luckily sensi star is an easy strain to clone for the most part. i think my hassan (afghan) will give me troubles.
 

babygro

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Just compared to how i take them.

I leave the top and one fan leaf only per plant. I was told that this is the way to go as they take quicker because you have less plant matter to try and keep alive until the roots have formed. I plant them upto the fan leaf.
Ahh okay I'm with you. Yeah I agree you should take off as much foliage as you can get away with. I like to leave a couple of sets of leaves and the growing shoot, as I think they grow best that way for when they do finally root. But I agree, if the plant struggles with all the foliage I'll take off another set of leaves, but I prefer to leave them on if I can. I also don't mind the long bit of stem as when I repot I pot most of that stem up to the soil and about an inch from the first set of leaves.
 

sk3tch3

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i get impatient, i have a tendency to "pull up" cuttings to check on the progression. i started leaving the leaves intact, when they fade yellow or brownish i know my roots are setting and they are wanting food, and not just water.
 

babygro

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those are all sensi star @ 14 days exactly.
Sensi Stars, cool! That was what I grew out last time. Stinks to high heaven even in Veg, these Mandala's don't stink anything like as bad as SS did even in flowering!

How do you like the SS stone? I've been smoking it for a few months now and it might be that I'm just tired of it or a bit toleranced to it, but I don't find it mashes me as much as it did in the early days. What I do find about it though is that it's a big 'creeper', it almost has a 1/2 hour delayed reaction, and you're happily puffing away on your third joint and WHAM! The first one you had catches up with you!

Also, people go on about SS being almost a one hit wonder, I don't find that at all and whilst it can easily put you to sleep after a while I don't find it all that strong. It's just a bit too heavy in the Indica for me.
 

babygro

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i get impatient, i have a tendency to "pull up" cuttings to check on the progression. i started leaving the leaves intact, when they fade yellow or brownish i know my roots are setting and they are wanting food, and not just water.
Not everyones churning out as many clones as you are though! So, some of your 'short cuts' are fine really considering the quantity you're cloning. When you're doing fewer clones and only one of each female like I am, you want to make sure each clones survives, so you're a little more careful I guess.

You sogging the SS?
 

sk3tch3

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yeah i am going SOG again... next time around will have mr nice and the perps in my journal, also hassan. im not sure on the growing style of these plants so it will be somewhat of an expirement to see which two strains will best be grown together for a more uniform canopy.

your right on about the high from SS. its really really nice.... at first. the last time i harvested it i waited a few days ithink 67 days but im not sure exactly, and that helped, the problem i think is, is the tolerence issue. i smoke a lot and SS doesnt hold up against my tolerence like say, romulan, or master kush. it literaly takes a few days before i have to switch up strains so im not wasting weed. .5 grams to my head in one session is more then enough. when i get to the point where i need more i switch it up. also too indica foro me as well. i like the taste and smell though, not citrusy but lemon tones, i used a lot of molasses so the nugz are super sticky and sweet. really sweet. the only thing i dont like about the SS is the tolerence issue, and is a whimp when it comes to nutes, which saves money in the long run. but for a first time indoor grower, it was deff a great strain to learn with. so much was learned through this strain alone i cant begain to tell you/.
 

nongreenthumb

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It always good to grow more than one variety at once, have a stock of them all :D

I want all the strains and varieties sitting in mason jars. I'd love a wine cellar for weed. Oh yes old bean whats the vintage on this one. Oh its a white rhino circa 2006, oh yes that was a good year for it if i do say so or what about the jack the ripper circa 2009. Yes that was pretty special wasnt it. Why dont we just crack open a few and have weed tasting afternoon. Yes jeeves that sounds good.

Sorry for the rant lol
 

MRbudsmoker

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nice one babygrow. One of the best threads/ journals i've seen!!! can't wait till you get some bud shots!! how tall you think they will end up being and the time span roughly from start to finish???
 

GoodFriend

Lumberjack
what kinda yeild you hoping for each? what it says on the site they got (they test yeild in a 1 square meter flower room SOG style with a 400w HPS)

the satori is a huge yielder at 550-600 grams dried (in that m^2 setup)

with the kalichakra at 500- 550 grams

and like you guys, i' m excited to see it flower!!!

good luck bg
 

babygro

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yeah i am going SOG again... next time around will have mr nice and the perps in my journal, also hassan. im not sure on the growing style of these plants so it will be somewhat of an expirement to see which two strains will best be grown together for a more uniform canopy.
I think SS is well suited to SOG, it grows quite a big main cola, doesn't get too tall and not too many side branches. I think I've got a great Satori Mother, ideally suited to SOG and I may well end up doing a SOG grow next time round.

Your experiences with the SS high are similar to my own. It is a very tasty weed, It's difficult to describe the taste of it but it's just kind of nice! The high is as you said. I think one of the problems with it (and typical of dominant Indicas) is that it has a ceiling on the high, which effectively means once you reach that ceiling you won't go any higher no matter how much more you smoke.

It was good to grow the Sensi Star and I learnt a lot from doing it but it's not a strain I'm in any hurry to grow out again. I will do though, because I think it takes several grows to really understand how a plant grows and what it's nutrient requirements are and I'm not sure you always do a new strain justice in only growing it once. I'm happy at the moment though to experiment a little with the Satori's and Kalichakras I'm currently growing particularly considering the nice variety of phenos I've got from them.

The Satori phenos are all quite different and vary considerably in height. The smallest (12-14 inches tall) clearly expresses the Indica squat bushy fat fingered leaf characteristics. The one in the middle (the potential mother plant and last Satori to pop) at about 16-18 inches tall sits between the smallest and tallest, and expresses a mixture of Indica and Sativa traits. The two biggest things going for this one is the sheer vigor and fast growth potential as well as it's very strong and quick growing side shoots for clones. The tallest is classical Sativa, tall slim and slender narrow fingered leaves, currently standing at about 2 feet tall.

I'll obviously smoke test the three of them, but fully expect the first to express the most Indica, the tallest the most Sativa and the one in the middle hopefully the best of both worlds.

Regarding the flowering times of my Sensi Stars, I can tell you exactly what day I chopped the seed plant and the two clones -

The recommended flowering time for SS is 56-63 days. I chopped the seed plant at day 62. The clones at day 59.

So I chopped the clones 3 days earlier than the seed plants and that was to try and get more of an 'up' high from it, I think I allowed too many cloudy trichs to turn amber on both of them.
 

sk3tch3

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this time around it will be 55 days. im going to cram as many out of 34 that i can i my 5 by 8 grow room. 2 gallon pots with soil on saucers, i will hand water so i will need to leave room to walk around, i stuck them under my 400watt MH today. im doing a lil expirement for fun. half i am bottem watering and the other half through the top, folier feeding with nitrozyme on bothsee which take faster, im thinking the bootem feed.what do you think?. i want to try to get them set before they go under the thousie. prolly a few days then i will veg for another few days under the thousie. then i will have my other thousie and ventilation installed and will transplant out of those keg cups and into their 2 gallon pots and veg for one more day, i will be folier feeding with nitrozyme through that time, then 12/12 for 55 days, im trying to get 2lbs this go around. going with mostly fox farm, . i will include that grow in my journal so you can check it out if you want. i will take pics tomorrow of the out door SS i have flowering right now. i fed yesterday with open seasme, grow big (needed some nitrogen) and molasses. they are looking awesome.

SS is not my first choice in strains but it was readily availibel at the time and i needed something to get started. i would suggest it to anyone growing their first time, but i think most coneseuers would like maybe a SS x WW. i wanted to cross it with my mr nice but she is a she. i thought my buddy would get a male since he has 11 and he got all females. so not im waiting to see if one of my perps is a male but so far out of 5 i know 3 are female ??? go figure. good news is i got my mothers finest seed to crack yesterday. im super stoked. if it is a make i will cross it with SS and do a journal...

i guess what im saying is i like the SS but would prolly appreciate it more if there was another strain to compliment her.

maybe you should grew out another one and do a cross with one of your mandala strains. that would be nice!
 

skunkushybrid

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this time around it will be 55 days. im going to cram as many out of 34 that i can i my 5 by 8 grow room. 2 gallon pots with soil on saucers, i will hand water so i will need to leave room to walk around, i stuck them under my 400watt MH today. im doing a lil expirement for fun. half i am bottem watering and the other half through the top, folier feeding with nitrozyme on bothsee which take faster, im thinking the bootem feed.what do you think?. i want to try to get them set before they go under the thousie. prolly a few days then i will veg for another few days under the thousie. then i will have my other thousie and ventilation installed and will transplant out of those keg cups and into their 2 gallon pots and veg for one more day, i will be folier feeding with nitrozyme through that time, then 12/12 for 55 days, im trying to get 2lbs this go around. going with mostly fox farm, . i will include that grow in my journal so you can check it out if you want. i will take pics tomorrow of the out door SS i have flowering right now. i fed yesterday with open seasme, grow big (needed some nitrogen) and molasses. they are looking awesome.

SS is not my first choice in strains but it was readily availibel at the time and i needed something to get started. i would suggest it to anyone growing their first time, but i think most coneseuers would like maybe a SS x WW. i wanted to cross it with my mr nice but she is a she. i thought my buddy would get a male since he has 11 and he got all females. so not im waiting to see if one of my perps is a male but so far out of 5 i know 3 are female ??? go figure. good news is i got my mothers finest seed to crack yesterday. im super stoked. if it is a make i will cross it with SS and do a journal...

i guess what im saying is i like the SS but would prolly appreciate it more if there was another strain to compliment her.

maybe you should grew out another one and do a cross with one of your mandala strains. that would be nice!
Hey, when you get it up and running. Please be kind enough to pm me a link. I would be interested to look into one of your grows.
 

babygro

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Quck update on the clones really. Day 8 from taking clones. It's actually day 7, but the clocks just turned over so it's day 8 :)

I watered all the clones on day 4 from taking them with 1mil Formulex, (recommended 5.0 mil per L, and Formulex is specially developed for clones and seedlings) 0.5mil Seaweed Extract per Litre of water. Continued to mist them and keep the humidity dome on.

On day 6, I noticed the first of the roots beginning to form outside the Root Riot cube. The pictures of the roots are shown and those pics were taken today. The humidity dome is still on and they'll be due another watering tommorow.

I'd like to think it was my wonderful cloning technique and feeding that's produced the roots so quickly, but I rather suspect it's much more to do with the vigor of the genetics. The Sensi Star clones I took, took exactly 14 days to show roots according to my Grow Diary - these did it in 6.

I'm sure the Seaweed Exract also helped Sk3tch3 ;)

If there's any interest in a detailed account of my cloning technique, I'd be more than happy to share it.

Enjoy the pics and I'll try and answer any unanswered posts in here tommorow.
 

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