pot is legal in Canada

[Gamberro]

You can get arrested, you just get away with it in court. That's the way in which it's legal.

 

[eludz]

ahaha.. man have you guys heard of appeals? they will appeal it -
give the guy a WORSE precedent without question.. they will not
take a loss of ground in the war on the 'marihauna' which they tricked
everyone into making illegal in the first place.. i understand that you
guys think that is a victory, but understand there are 1000's upon 1000's
of precedent cases that go in the other direction that the prosecutor's
will bring into court next time to bring back precedents that they WANT
to stand.

Yawn....http://www.thepotlawhasfallen.ca/index.html:bigjoint:

 

[peaceb2usall]

ahaha.. man have you guys heard of appeals? they will appeal it -
give the guy a WORSE precedent without question.. they will not
take a loss of ground in the war on the 'marihauna' which they tricked
everyone into making illegal in the first place.. i understand that you
guys think that is a victory, but understand there are 1000's upon 1000's
of precedent cases that go in the other direction that the prosecutor's
will bring into court next time to bring back precedents that they WANT
to stand.

Did you have your case appealed? It sounds like you talk from alot of personal experience, is this so?

Did you actually read any of the site or familiarize yourself with the current laws as they stand now?

I don't think so....

 

[Gamberro]

Did you have your case appealed? It sounds like you talk from alot of personal experience, is this so?

Did you actually read any of the site or familiarize yourself with the current laws as they stand now?

I don't think so....

Really. The case is fairly solid, once in a courtroom.

 

[peaceb2usall]

Really. The case is fairly solid, once in a courtroom.

Sorry not sure whether you are agreeing or disagreeing here Could you clarify?

2008 September 19 Feds try to stir the pot laws in Ontario court
Canwest News Service; Shannon Kari
Quotation from news media article:
The government is asking Justice Eva Frank to overturn a ruling last year by a provincial court judge in Toronto who found there was no law against simple possession of pot, because the medical marijuana scheme was still invalid.
...
[Government lawyer Lisa] Csele agreed that if the medical marijuana scheme is unconstitutional, then there is no law against simple possession of cannabis. But she urged Frank to look at all of the government's actions when deciding if it has done enough to comply with the Court of Appeal's ruling in 2003.

If you are going to court over marijuana possession: http://www.thepotlawhasfallen.ca/defensekit.html
(It is free of charge, but it comes with instructions and warnings and advice.)

 

[Willie North]

gotta love good ol Canada
but our gov is kinda messed up right now haha

 

[Gamberro]

Sorry not sure whether you are agreeing or disagreeing here Could you clarify?

Agreeing. It just doesn't count for much until you're actually in court is the only limit. But eventually, as the precedent is used more often, cops might just not bother.
hahahahaha

 

[eludz]

well put it this way man.. when you get arrested you are usually out the next day.. but your shit will be gone, and all your equipment, and possibly many other things the cops might want for themselves personally.

plus they will poison your animals and get them to piss and shit on your bed, etc..

so if you say it's legal when they come and do all of that.. plus take your house and abuse your family and you so much you want to do something about it..

you have no idea.. stop telling people it's okay to get in trouble, because when you do you are screwed in so many ways you didn't know of before it happened.. believe it.

plus going to court costs $$$$$$$ big time if you are going to use a defense like that, because legal aid will NOT defend you.. they will only speak on your behalf.. they will NOT create a case based on precedents or evidence for that matter.. they are only there to represent you.. but you can talk on your own behalf.. but i don't think they would be letting you bring whatever precedent cases up unless you do it in the right legal process language also.. so all i know is it's not a sure thing.. so stop making it sound like it is.. by saying stuff like weed is legal in canada.. cause it's not.

 

[Gamberro]

LOL you're half-right but you got to pop a chill pill cuz... besides cultivation & distribution aren't even the charges being discussed, just possession. No diss, but lax back and maybe read the thread a bit more before going all out.

 

[peaceb2usall]

Blah blah blah.

Ahh I miss those early teen years or B) wtf are you talking about?

 

[born2killspam]

If there is no law, then shouldn't the actual cops involved be civily liable for a harassment suit?
I mean a cop would get into alot of trouble if he arrested you for drinking a pepsi, just because he was a coca cola fan..
Ignorance is no excuse regarding legalities in Canada.. If I break a law, or do something actionable in civil court, I can't expect to defend myself by saying "I didn t know", or "Well, thats the way I've done things for years.."..

 

[born2killspam]

BTW eludz, you might want to have those paranoid delusions checked out by a professional..
If you bothered to read up on this you'd realize that a very effective (letter of the law) template case has already been devised on that site, and you can simply print it up without a lawyer's involvement..
If you can keep your mouth shut so you don't end up incriminating yourself on other grounds, possession in Canada is that easy to beat right now..
And WTF are you talking about regarding the crown appealing the loss? You need to bone up on your knowledge of our legal system.. (Your system as well for that matter)..

 

[peaceb2usall]

Cultivation is a whole different ball game, they still don't f'ck around with plants, even 2. I read story after story of people getting owned in court for cultivation, yes even in Canada:

http://timestranscript.canadaeast.com/news/article/486945

FREDERICTON - Growing marijuana at home means jail time for a Minto man.

Judge Patricia Cumming sentenced Darrell John McKiel to two months behind bars when he appeared in Burton Provincial Court yesterday, citing that such activity has to be discouraged.
The 43-year-old pleaded guilty to growing marijuana when he appeared in court Nov. 3.
Crown prosecutor David Hitchcock told the court that McKiel's home was raided by the RCMP late in the afternoon of April 8.
McKiel tried to "rub the plants" into the soil when police arrived, and had to be handcuffed, Hitchcock said.
Officers found cigarettes, marijuana seeds and about 13 plants in a pair of trays.
"These were only two to three inches high," Hitchcock said.
There was no timer or special equipment -- just plants growing under a light, court was told.
"It was a most unsophisticated type of grow," Hitchcock said.
The Crown prosecutor asked the court to send McKiel to jail.
"Grow-ops by their very nature demand incarceration," he said.
Defence counsel Ed Derrah said McKiel intended to use the plants to relieve pain associated with a serious ATV accident that occurred a number of years ago.
But Cumming wasn't buying it.
She said it was obvious that McKiel was willing to do whatever he had to do to keep police from finding the pot.
Cumming said the grow-op may not have been a sophisticated one, but pointed out that such activity is prohibited and illegal.
Had it been a more serious situation, Cumming told McKiel, he could have found himself spending the next seven years in jail.

Its also hilarious to read the same key phrase over and over in the news "Sophisticated grow operation" i.e. it had lights on a timer

 

[Gamberro]

 

[eludz]

BTW eludz, you might want to have those paranoid delusions checked out by a professional..
If you bothered to read up on this you'd realize that a very effective (letter of the law) template case has already been devised on that site, and you can simply print it up without a lawyer's involvement..
If you can keep your mouth shut so you don't end up incriminating yourself on other grounds, possession in Canada is that easy to beat right now..
And WTF are you talking about regarding the crown appealing the loss? You need to bone up on your knowledge of our legal system.. (Your system as well for that matter)..

they appeal EVERY LOSS they possibly can if the case turns out to be to easy on the defendant.. they take you to the supreme court to appeal it and 99% of people goto jail from the appeal court.. ask ANY defense lawyer in your damn city and they will tell you.. appeal + supreme court judges = jail EVERYTIME unless you agree to pay huge fines upwards of $5000 usually..

the lawyers and prosecutors are in bed together.. they talk on the phone before the case even begins and make deals behind your back.. they pay off the defense lawyers to allow them to screw you.. and after the appeal all i remember the prosecutor saying to my lawyer was,,, "thanks kevin, i guess i owe you lunch after this one.." etc etc.. it's bullshit.. don't believe the hype.. don't get caught.. be smarter...

your name is on their desk they come right now for anything to do with production or the purpuse to traffic ..

i understand that this thread is about possession, but it just bothers me that people will be little leeches and buy but won't grow or won't sell.. people like that need to be shot.. period.. i don't care if you are medicinal or not.. that whole med thing is bullshit.. for the fact that we should be allowed to have it BEFORE we become terminally ill.. and anyone that is fighting for it to just be medicinal is only helping the government out in the master plan to monopolize the market and grow it and sell it themselves..

sorry guys .. i'm not an asshole.. but i'm just telling you guys it is much more harsh than you can imagine until you go through it..

and realize after you have a record it NEVER GOES AWAY.. it is in the governments SIMFILES .. and never get deleted.. you will never get a medicinal license to grow or possess it if you ever get caught prior to applying for the license..

more and more and more jobs are doing record checks as it gets easier for them to do so.. never get a government job or anything high paying for that matter again once you have a record.. no job at city hall or and power companies.. or police or fireman or anything.. it's BULLSHIT!

can't possess a firearm for 10 years.. et etc etc.. there is sooooo much more to it than you realize until it happens to you.. and they let you know that you are you are an enemy to them with that gun restriction right there, cause they know you are against their laws, so you are not a blind faith slave that they want.. so they make your life REAL hard by getting more and more and more employers to do record checks.. as they make it easier and easier..

not to mention when the world bank is in full effect.. your record will be attached to your credit record and it will make it that much harder to get a loan someday also..

anyways.. what i say is factual from experience.. and as far as i know. .the law is getting harsher against anyting to do with the green .. so whatever to this whole thread..

and i believe it's possible to win, but it all depends on the judge.. if the judge has a personal vendetta against it you are in trouble.. if the judge looks at it as a drug and hates the whole idea of it and how people are giving it to kids, etc.. that is just not good.. and that is the way it is the majority of the time.. cause the judges are usually old and come from the time of the whole reefer madness campaign and were mind controlled to be totally against the stuff.. so there is MORE to consider than relying on a defense kit.. is all i'm saying.. there are many grey areas that can take the case both ways..

if you possess it around kids or around your work.. you will get in much more trouble also..etc.. anyways..

food, water, water, water, food, water, water, water.. is the method..

ph. - 6.2 (all the way through)
15grams - 20-20-20 / 5gal (veg)
18grams - 15-35-15 / 5gal (flower)
(fool proof method for self sufficiency)

and spray with distilled water ph'd to 6.2 .. with peroxide in it to keep the bugs away.. and use a piece of a garlic clove and a bit of salt in the spray bottle if bugs still give you trouble..

and remember, bigger container = more roots = more yield,

can't go wrong.. no flush needed.. enjoy..

good luck to all of you..

i'm done for this thread... peace..

 

[born2killspam]

I can believe there is illegal organ farming going on within the system, but what you said isn't even paranoid delusion, its just retarded..

 

[Gamberro]

I can believe there is illegal organ farming going on within the system, but what you said isn't even paranoid delusion, its just retarded..

Organ farming? What now?

 

[eludz]

there is a difference between thinking and knowing.. and you need experience to know what's real..

and all i have to say is hopefully none of you will find out the hard way that i'm not lying to you and trying to help you guys be smarter and not take your freedom for granted even for a second.

enjoy the life while we still can.. good luck.. and remember you can call:

JOHN CONROY QC @conroy and company!
(604) 852-5110

to represent you if your rights are ever breached on a spot check...

he will fight for your charter rights 8,9 & 10(b) if they have been abused....

i never used him or called him.. just seen him advertising to help anyone that has trouble in this situation.. he specializes in it or something.. so anyways.. hopefully that helps someone here someday..

peace..

 

[Gamberro]

Does anyone know a comprehensive source for viewing Canadian/Ontario laws? These were available in Pennsylvania, but I hear a lot of mixed information, as is apparent on this thread.

 

[chuckbane]

Does anyone know a comprehensive source for viewing Canadian/Ontario laws? These were available in Pennsylvania, but I hear a lot of mixed information, as is apparent on this thread.

I'm not reading this whole thing, but pot ain't legal. I'm sure someone else has pointed that out but just to make sure.
I have never heard of indian lake, but round here if you get busted for smoking in public they normally just take your stash and tell you to do that kind of shit on your own property. Just don't be a dick, because they can haul your ass in and be a Buzz Killington. You wont end up in court though.