Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

[andyman]

Any,

Just an FYI now that i am not medicating. in your schematic i noticed that you made an error that i just now caught. the fuse you inserted going to the timer may be to high unless you have a different type timer then most of us are using. The timer such as what SB uses has a max output of only 15amps, at least mine does, so i would suggest lowering that to under 15 amps if in fact you expect it to do anything to save your timer. However with that said and i did Read where you said you thought it was overkill which i do believe it to be since your main power is coming from another circuit.

yeah I was ripped when I posted that. I put a 12 amp one in now. Thanks for catching that

 

[potpimp]

Stinkbud's system is a great one, the best I've ever found and I've done a lot of experimenting with almost every kind of system to find what works best for me and this is it. However, and I think Stinkbud would agree, with some creativity and thought, there are always improvements that can be made to any system. For instance, Stink's system would not fit in my tiny little grow cab so I had to figure out ways to chop off some inches here and there. I use a 10 gal res and I have the drain holes in the back rather than the front. I also changed the uptake plumbing to save more room. In my configuration my "fence posts" can be nearly as long as the inside of my cabinet. You gotta think out of the bag and out of the bottle, not just out of the box. And I don't know if I made a smart decision or not but my thought on the timer setting is "Wet is wet; why does it need to run for 1 minute when the roots get just as wet from 30 seconds?" And the roots are still wet 5 minutes later so, knowing they need O2 just as much as water and nutes, I chose to double my "off" time to 10 minutes. Now the roots actually get reasonably dry - not really dry but damp and obviously enough to give the plants the O2 they need. I'm not trying to reinvent Stinkbuds system, just modify it to better suit my needs.

 

[andyman]

Cool, sounds good, I was thinking of doing 240 just need to find lights that are compatible with 240! Thanks!! +rep

All my h.i.d. lights (mh & hps) all are able to be switched from 120 to 240.
just have to hook the wires dif on the transformer inside I think.
most good lights are switchable as far as I know

 

[grodrowithme]

All my h.i.d. lights (mh & hps) all are able to be switched from 120 to 240.
just have to hook the wires dif on the transformer inside I think.
most good lights are switchable as far as I know

most digital ballast are switchable most others are not although i have seen some magnetic ballast that do. but you are better off with a digital ballast they use 10 to 30 % less energy and stay cooler (dont get the ones with fans in em as i hear they all pretty much quit working mine don have em thats what i hear from every wholesaler) and u can order the 240 cord as it plugs in the same as the 120 in the same spot no rewiring or anything

 

[torrey420]

All my h.i.d. lights (mh & hps) all are able to be switched from 120 to 240.
just have to hook the wires dif on the transformer inside I think.
most good lights are switchable as far as I know

Hahaha, there you go assuming I have quality lights! Thats good to know, I'm ordering the first in the series on Friday so I can make sure its compatible with both.

 

[repvip]

Hahaha, there you go assuming I have quality lights! Thats good to know, I'm ordering the first in the series on Friday so I can make sure its compatible with both.

Yes I recommend 240v especially for 4 lights! I wish mine were 240v. You could consider wiring up one of these badboys to control your lights:

http://www.nationalgardenwholesale.com/ngw/gardening_supplies.aspx?request=SOL_SP240S_TIMER&title=Environmental Controllers / C02&type=product

My flower room is right next to my dryer... I am seriously considering getting one of these that Stink recommended forever ago

http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/30-amp-240v-power-box-p-1397.html

The 240's will use less current==less heat==savings and safety. Think of it like removing an invisible 50w heater who needs it!

EDIT: hah! Look what I just found. DIY plans for a similar dryer cord lighting controller I won't recommend this for most of you, but I'm hooked Just need to incorporate some 120v plugs somehow.

 

[andyman]

Hahaha, there you go assuming I have quality lights! Thats good to know, I'm ordering the first in the series on Friday so I can make sure its compatible with both.

all mine are like 15+ years old so not sure how the new ones are

 

[Picasso345]

Stinkbud's system is a great one, the best I've ever found and I've done a lot of experimenting with almost every kind of system to find what works best for me and this is it. However, and I think Stinkbud would agree, with some creativity and thought, there are always improvements that can be made to any system. For instance, Stink's system would not fit in my tiny little grow cab so I had to figure out ways to chop off some inches here and there. I use a 10 gal res and I have the drain holes in the back rather than the front. I also changed the uptake plumbing to save more room. In my configuration my "fence posts" can be nearly as long as the inside of my cabinet. You gotta think out of the bag and out of the bottle, not just out of the box. And I don't know if I made a smart decision or not but my thought on the timer setting is "Wet is wet; why does it need to run for 1 minute when the roots get just as wet from 30 seconds?" And the roots are still wet 5 minutes later so, knowing they need O2 just as much as water and nutes, I chose to double my "off" time to 10 minutes. Now the roots actually get reasonably dry - not really dry but damp and obviously enough to give the plants the O2 they need. I'm not trying to reinvent Stinkbuds system, just modify it to better suit my needs.

Interesting. We need side by side tests of different on/off times. Really dial it in.

 

[andyman]

EDIT: hah! Look what I just found. DIY plans for a similar dryer cord lighting controller I won't recommend this for most of you, but I'm hooked Just need to incorporate some 120v plugs somehow.

Another contactor project yay
Plan on making somethin simular for mine but not using a dryer cord. going to make one for all my lights, to use for the timer like the pumps. so I only need one timer for all my flowering.

 

[trouble9039]

I am also using the same aeroponics for my clones and I do have to say it rocks! U can buy 1 pre made but they sell for 400-800 pending on the size. and my was made for 30.00 but I alrady had the pump. I am currently growing my mothers in soil and they are not doing the greatest, but my SOG is hydro and just booming with pure pleasure. So on that note I am looking to start new mother's in A DWC system. Does anybody have some advice on that?

 

[torrey420]

Yes I recommend 240v especially for 4 lights! I wish mine were 240v. You could consider wiring up one of these badboys to control your lights:

http://www.nationalgardenwholesale.com/ngw/gardening_supplies.aspx?request=SOL_SP240S_TIMER&title=Environmental Controllers / C02&type=product

My flower room is right next to my dryer... I am seriously considering getting one of these that Stink recommended forever ago

http://www.plantlightinghydroponics.com/30-amp-240v-power-box-p-1397.html

The 240's will use less current==less heat==savings and safety. Think of it like removing an invisible 50w heater who needs it!

EDIT: hah! Look what I just found. DIY plans for a similar dryer cord lighting controller I won't recommend this for most of you, but I'm hooked Just need to incorporate some 120v plugs somehow.

thanks for the link...helped me find a dual electronic ballast, 240v, now i can have 2 ballasts and 4 lights! Sweet! +rep!

 

[torrey420]

I am also using the same aeroponics for my clones and I do have to say it rocks! U can buy 1 pre made but they sell for 400-800 pending on the size. and my was made for 30.00 but I alrady had the pump. I am currently growing my mothers in soil and they are not doing the greatest, but my SOG is hydro and just booming with pure pleasure. So on that note I am looking to start new mother's in A DWC system. Does anybody have some advice on that?

Use Stinks system and don't worry about mothers!

 

[trouble9039]

I am also doing the SOG as he is but mine are on a 2 week cycle! he says he takes his clones from his veg plant's (would he be saying his mothers)? Is DWC/aeroponics that nicer than soil for the veg stage? My clones just jam with the aeroponics cloner that I made...... Just how does it work for A main sys.?

 

[andyman]

I am also doing the SOG as he is but mine are on a 2 week cycle! he says he takes his clones from his veg plant's (would he be saying his mothers)? Is DWC/aeroponics that nicer than soil for the veg stage? My clones just jam with the aeroponics cloner that I made...... Just how does it work for A main sys.?

I would sugest reading the whole thread.
he has no mother plants, just cuts clones from his plants in veg before he puts them to flower.
You should get a recylcle timer for the pump. Works way better and is a must for TRUE aeroponics. to give air time hense the name AEROponics.

 

[trouble9039]

Ok I understand! Does that affect genetics?

 

[jimo09]

Wow! 4-5 days of reading and I'm finally to the end (for now). I hope I can do justice to the Stink Bud U alumni! Getting ready to build an SB 2009. I have been looking for a system to grow great all organic and I have found it. Thank you Stink Bud!

A question about elec if anyone has a suggestion...I am wanting to set up a room with 240v. I have a dryer outlet about 10 feet away. Can I put a junction box in line before the dryer outlet then run romex to my room? Dryer is gas so outlet is not used. I would like to keep it however in case I sell the house later. Any suggestions, comments appreciated...Thx

 

[andyman]

Wow! 4-5 days of reading and I'm finally to the end (for now). I hope I can do justice to the Stink Bud U alumni! Getting ready to build an SB 2009. I have been looking for a system to grow great all organic and I have found it. Thank you Stink Bud!

A question about elec if anyone has a suggestion...I am wanting to set up a room with 240v. I have a dryer outlet about 10 feet away. Can I put a junction box in line before the dryer outlet then run romex to my room? Dryer is gas so outlet is not used. I would like to keep it however in case I sell the house later. Any suggestions, comments appreciated...Thx

gas dryer , cool , it will work fine. The breaker should allready be a 30amp or higher allready at that box. could probly vent into your dryer vent if you put one way flapper/draft blocker things in so it didnt blow air back into the dryer.

 

[jimo09]

Thanks, not sure about the venting though. Will probably cut a vent hole in the outside wall or go into the attic or I can actually vent under the house which would probably be easiest since there is already an access hole from my grow room (part of garage).

 

[latinrascal]

Wow! 4-5 days of reading and I'm finally to the end (for now). I hope I can do justice to the Stink Bud U alumni! Getting ready to build an SB 2009. I have been looking for a system to grow great all organic and I have found it. Thank you Stink Bud!

A question about elec if anyone has a suggestion...I am wanting to set up a room with 240v. I have a dryer outlet about 10 feet away. Can I put a junction box in line before the dryer outlet then run romex to my room? Dryer is gas so outlet is not used. I would like to keep it however in case I sell the house later. Any suggestions, comments appreciated...Thx

here you go. If i were you this would be ideal since its only 10ft away. This setup will cost you less the $50 and a cheap timer will work perfectly to run your light. Instead of the dryer plug i would buy 12 to 14 ft of 8 to 10 gauge wire with a dryer type of plug to make it long enough to bring the box into your room. or of course if you dont need this timer setup i would think you could get away with mounting a small curcuit box in your room setup for 240 and then run the load lines back to your dryer outlet. Please dont use anything smaller, for wire size at least 10 gauge, then what is rated for the amount of amps you will be pulling. now i'm not a licensed sparky but beleive me when i tell you that i have ran and wired a good portion of my home city working directly with a few master electrician with about 100 years experiance between them. with that said i still run back and ask questions when i dont for sure know the answer so maybe Andy will jump in here or someone else who knows for sure.

Damm sorry people i forgot the link for what i was talking about that was posted from someone else at the top of page. so here ya go http://www.hydroponics.net/learn/grow-light-controller.asp

 

[jimo09]

here you go. If i were you this would be ideal since its only 10ft away. This setup will cost you less the $50 and a cheap timer will work perfectly to run your light. Instead of the dryer plug i would buy 12 to 14 ft of 8 to 10 gauge wire with a dryer type of plug to make it long enough to bring the box into your room. or of course if you dont need this timer setup i would think you could get away with mounting a small curcuit box in your room setup for 240 and then run the load lines back to your dryer outlet. Please dont use anything smaller, for wire size at least 10 gauge, then what is rated for the amount of amps you will be pulling. now i'm not a licensed sparky but beleive me when i tell you that i have ran and wired a good portion of my home city working directly with a few master electrician with about 100 years experiance between them. with that said i still run back and ask questions when i dont for sure know the answer so maybe Andy will jump in here or someone else who knows for sure.

Thanks for the info. Actually, the room is only about 10 ft away but there is a solid wall between. I can easily get to the dryer wire from under the house and bring it over. What I was wondering is whether I can splice a junction box below the existing outlet then run the 8 to 10 wire over to the room and install another outlet. If I do, will the original outlet also still function (when the lights are off of course)? The circuit is 30 amp - two breakers.