homegrownboy
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I just believe that if something is working for THOUSANDS of years...and gives you some of the best results...GOD must not be wrong!!!
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I just believe that if something is working for THOUSANDS of years...and gives you some of the best results...GOD must not be wrong!!!
cloudflyer
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GOD, lol whos god (there are so many of them); another refrence that has no proof just faith alone. Ahhh your a faith grower. No problem get a seed and put it in the ground... well and thats it, your done. let GOD do the rest right. God dosent have anything to do with indoor growing.
There are billions of things that work better now than they did thousands of years ago, otherwise we would not have the word progress.
homegrownboy
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Again i'll say this...indoors is best for "controlled" enviroment.
I don't know what your problem is...but your really stubborn.
Outdoors=up to a pound and over
Indoors=2-6oz
You tell me what's better? Unless your growing with multiple lights...the sun beats a single light ANYDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've grown in and outdoors, and i'll ALWAYS prefer to grow it outdoors just for the shere size and potency.
I don't know what your problem is...but your really stubborn.
Outdoors=up to a pound and over
Indoors=2-6oz
You tell me what's better? Unless your growing with multiple lights...the sun beats a single light ANYDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've grown in and outdoors, and i'll ALWAYS prefer to grow it outdoors just for the shere size and potency.
cloudflyer
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There is no doubt that size and yeild is greater outdoor because... well the plants have more room to grow.
However I completly disagree that potency is better outdoors. The plant has to devote a lot of it resources to surviving weather and whos to say one year is the same as the next. Since you do not have this control you never know exactly what you are going to get. I tell my plants where to use their resources. Here is a pic from my upcoming DVD. This picture is 3 weeks into flowering. I have never seen trichomes like this outdoors in week 3
cloudflyer
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i have. lolol
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Now be honest, is that truly 3 weeks into flower? They look preaty big for not using c02 in soil. At 3 weeks flowering most people are just past sexing. Can you tell exactly when they start flowering? Your plants gradually move to flower (any advantages?) I guess you could count the hours of darkness per day. Indoors, I go from 18/6 to 12/12 in one day. About a week later I have pistils, second week flowers, and the third week here come the Trichomes. From then out its putting on mass. Those are nice pics. Is the plastic for frost?
homegrownboy
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Here ya go...for the record this is week 1 of flowering! They are clones from my mother, grown in soil in 2 gallon pots.
It has already been proven that using the suns colour spectrum, will generate 20-30% more tricome production.
It has already been proven that using the suns colour spectrum, will generate 20-30% more tricome production.
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kid cannabis
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some of us dont just leave plants out doors... people like fdd and homegrown do monitor our plant... yes you can control temps, light and rain amount but the sun is the best possible light and its free
and rain contains nutrients and is probly better than the distilled water you use. ok so there are so pretty nice indoor strains but ill take 5lbs of twilight, super nova, or crooked prarie or just purp over a measly 2-6 oz of anything you grow indoors
all but the last pic is 3 weeks flowering. you can't beat mother nature. if you think you can you have a "god complex". lololol
jordisgarden
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if your growing outside all you need is a seed and a good spot. oh and water
cloudflyer
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First week one of flowering that is absolutly obserd. Week one is when the plant starts shifting to flowering. In week one you cant even see what sex your plant is yet. Week one is the first week you change your nuts from grow grow to flower. There are no flowers in week one. I think that was the first week you saw flowers so your calling it week one.
Second there you go again saying "IT HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVEN that using the suns colour spectrum, will generate 20-30% more tricome production." But you dont mention who or when it was proven.
My question to you is to show me where you learned that it was proven that using the suns colour spectrum, will generate 20-30% more tricome production.
I have been teaching a class at the local dispencery now for 3 years. I teach the hydroponic/aeroponic class. The class is now 5 months long and the class project is a grow from start to finish (we meet 2-3 times a month). The class is for people that are willing to spend at least a couple grand on their grow room and the class is $1000. There are a lot of pictures and so on. Though I do not have any hands on knowledge with outdoor soil growing, I compare my classes projects with the instructor that teachs soil growing both in and outdoors. Light conditions aside just the pure benifits of hydro/aeroponic over soil is astounding. That is raw data taken over a period of 3 years, 2 classes (1 soil 1 H/Aponics) every 6 months with 10 students per class. So we are talking about 40 diffrent grows per year X3 so 120 grows 1/2 soil 1/2 H/Aponics. The lack of O2 uptake with soil compared to H/Aponics restricts the growth rate. From clone to 12" tall takes 10 days in veg growth (aeroponicly with CO2) where as soil takes around 25 days. You will never convince me that you can grow faster/higher Trics outdoors. I have seen to many grows before my eyes.
cloudflyer
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God complex nahhh Mother nature maybe. That is the entire premese of indoor growing, controling the enviornment to manipulate the plant to do what you want it too. It allows you to establish control variables. If mother nature was more consistant, outdoor crops could be more fine tuned. Tempature is a perfect example; temps control everything from O2 uptake in the roots, mebetolic rates, even the plants ability to take in co2.all but the last pic is 3 weeks flowering. you can't beat mother nature. if you think you can you have a "god complex". lololol
kid cannabis
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look how no outdoor growers are getting offensive its because we still have weed were as you cloudflyer have smoked your tiny harvest a week ago
cloudflyer
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The pics in my journal below were from a grow when I had to move into an appartment. Though I am not sure of the harvest of my new system I can estamate about 1.5 pounds of witch everything over 8oz will be donated to norml for actual cancer and aids patients. 8oz will get me through 4-5 months between harvests no problem
There is no arguement that indoor yeild is nowhere near outdoor. But Yeild is not my goal.
homegrownboy
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Ok let me get one thing straight....i've been growing for OVER 20 years...and I have had alot of trail and error experience...I think that's ALOT better then just reading a book.
That plant is 1 week into flowering...OBVIOULY you don't know SHIT about growing if you think the first week is just for starting the flowers. If your FORCE flower...which is a DUMB thing to do..then it takes a week or longer to show flowers YES...but...these were CLONES....and also if you let your plant preflower....it's a matter of days when you start seeing flowers on 12/12.
I know for a fact that your just a know it all...well....let me be the first to say...YOU DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!! If you knew ANYTHING about growing...you would have known that my plants preflowered before i flowered them.
So...as it stands...go stand in your little corner with your little grow books and grow classes...and keep feeding people the wrong information about growing.
Any of this can be found on the internet...even my beloved sun colour temp...it's clearly science. Stay in the closet...it's where you belong.
Good day sir!
That plant is 1 week into flowering...OBVIOULY you don't know SHIT about growing if you think the first week is just for starting the flowers. If your FORCE flower...which is a DUMB thing to do..then it takes a week or longer to show flowers YES...but...these were CLONES....and also if you let your plant preflower....it's a matter of days when you start seeing flowers on 12/12.
I know for a fact that your just a know it all...well....let me be the first to say...YOU DON'T!!!!!!!!!!!! If you knew ANYTHING about growing...you would have known that my plants preflowered before i flowered them.
So...as it stands...go stand in your little corner with your little grow books and grow classes...and keep feeding people the wrong information about growing.
Any of this can be found on the internet...even my beloved sun colour temp...it's clearly science. Stay in the closet...it's where you belong.
Good day sir!
homegrownboy
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Fdd leaves his plants outdoors since he lives in beautiful Cali...but I tend to bring them in on shitty days...I have perfect control over my plants.
homegrownboy
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Even your beloved Jorges Crevantis has stated it. Ha ha!!!!
It can also be achieved indoors as well.
I will say this...if you are REALLY donating your buds to cancer and other patients...then I commend you sir..as there should be more like you out there to help the needy.
jordisgarden
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i see people having decent results with cfl bulbs. but you could go to home depot and by a high pressure sodium flood light for 100 bucks. i bought three of those and use a 2 tube four foot floro above em while the 3 100 go around em. works for me and it was cheap. and doesnt use much electricity
cloudflyer
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Obviously you dont know shit about indoor growing. Indoors, you tell the plant when to flower. There are not preflowers unless you have 15 foot ceilings and a huge room. I gow mine to 12"-15 inchs then turn it to 12/12. At that moment the plant begins flowering. That was my point earlier. What is 3 weeks to me is not three weeks to you. You cant tell me the moment your plants started getting 12 hours of darkness because it happens gradually.
As for the wrong information, I teach INDOOR hydroponic/aeroponic GROWING, not outdoor soil.