Need a fresh start , suggestions ?

GemGrows24

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I've royally Fucked up my first attempt at growing . Plants still alive but smaller and lots of issues has occured causing major stress. I'm very worried I won't be able to carry this into flower. So come next week I'm buying new seeds , new soil. I'm looking for something that will require very little nutrients or amendments . I don't mind using Fox farms again but would like a confirmation that there soil is a good solid Choice . As for nutrients , if anyone knows of some good organic nutes that will be suitable for a beginner like me, please tell . And for water I'm under the understanding that I don't need to pH distilled water unless nutes are added. A confirmation here would help as well. And last but not least any good seed recommendations or easier strains I can work with would be nice . Indica or indica dominant preferred.
 

conor c

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I've royally Fucked up my first attempt at growing . Plants still alive but smaller and lots of issues has occured causing major stress. I'm very worried I won't be able to carry this into flower. So come next week I'm buying new seeds , new soil. I'm looking for something that will require very little nutrients or amendments . I don't mind using Fox farms again but would like a confirmation that there soil is a good solid Choice . As for nutrients , if anyone knows of some good organic nutes that will be suitable for a beginner like me, please tell . And for water I'm under the understanding that I don't need to pH distilled water unless nutes are added. A confirmation here would help as well. And last but not least any good seed recommendations or easier strains I can work with would be nice . Indica or indica dominant preferred.
The doctor or critical or most skunk Dom things are pretty damn hardy and resistant ime as for nutrient's it's kinda hard to go wrong with biobizz and yes you don't need to ph assuming everything is ok it's self correcting unless something major outta whack dirt and organics is simple and as bottles go it grows some nice weed just remember less is more it's better to under feed and correct it than to overdose and try to work backwards luckily it's not the strongest nute line out there too
 

GemGrows24

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The doctor or critical or most skunk Dom things are pretty damn hardy and resistant ime as for nutrient's it's kinda hard to go wrong with biobizz and yes you don't need to ph assuming everything is ok it's self correcting unless something major outta whack dirt and organics is simple and as bottles go it grows some nice weed just remember less is more it's better to under feed and correct it than to overdose and try to work backwards luckily it's not the strongest nute line out there too
Thanks I'll check out biobizz, and look out for some skunk dom . That's actually my preferred smoke so works out pretty well. And try another round with Fox farms . Just gonna go a while before I add nutes.
 

waytoofaded

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Any reason why you want to strictly stick to organics?

I'm currently using Promix HP with Gaia Green 444, Gaia Green Glacial rockdust and also using Epsom salt, calmag.

It's been the easiest grow I've done to date, I just amended my Promix with the reccomended amount of 444, Glacial rock dust and Epsom salt, ive just been watering with aquarium water not ph'd.
 

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ttystikk

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I'm going to give you the craziest contrarian advice and you might think I'm nuts but the biggest mistake newcomers make is making things too complicated.

Therefore, I think that the best way to get started is to make believe you're growing tomatoes. Get big box store potting soil, miracle gro for flowers and do a run or two life that. Get fancy LATER. Get the basics down FIRST.

Don't worry, your weed will be just fine.
 

GemGrows24

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I'm going to give you the craziest contrarian advice and you might think I'm nuts but the biggest mistake newcomers make is making things too complicated.

Therefore, I think that the best way to get started is to make believe you're growing tomatoes. Get big box store potting soil, miracle gro for flowers and do a run or two life that. Get fancy LATER. Get the basics down FIRST.

Don't worry, your weed will be just fine.
Dope shit . Ill have the consider that. Kinda saves on money too
 

coreywebster

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Last I saw your plant it didn't look bad.

Got any recent pics?
I've royally Fucked up my first attempt at growing . Plants still alive but smaller and lots of issues has occured causing major stress. I'm very worried I won't be able to carry this into flower. So come next week I'm buying new seeds , new soil. I'm looking for something that will require very little nutrients or amendments . I don't mind using Fox farms again but would like a confirmation that there soil is a good solid Choice . As for nutrients , if anyone knows of some good organic nutes that will be suitable for a beginner like me, please tell . And for water I'm under the understanding that I don't need to pH distilled water unless nutes are added. A confirmation here would help as well. And last but not least any good seed recommendations or easier strains I can work with would be nice . Indica or indica dominant preferred.
 

GemGrows24

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Any reason why you want to strictly stick to organics?

I'm currently using Promix HP with Gaia Green 444, Gaia Green Glacial rockdust and also using Epsom salt, calmag.

It's been the easiest grow I've done to date, I just amended my Promix with the reccomended amount of 444, Glacial rock dust and Epsom salt, ive just been watering with aquarium water not ph'd.
I've heard a lot of good things about Gaia Green amendments. I like how organics has an allready working system to balance things out . Less nutes have to be added. Less likely to fuck nutes up . But I'm not opposed to your method as well. I'm pretty sure Gaia Green is an organ source as well
 

GemGrows24

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I've heard a lot of good things about Gaia Green amendments. I like how organics has an allready working system to balance things out . Less nutes have to be added. Less likely to fuck nutes up . But I'm not opposed to your method as well. I'm pretty sure Gaia Green is an organ source as well
I havnt done anything to this plant since . Just bring lighting up .bring humidity up to 63, temp up to 77. .
0.9 -1.1 vpd. And have just let it be
 

conor c

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I've heard a lot of good things about Gaia Green amendments. I like how organics has an allready working system to balance things out . Less nutes have to be added. Less likely to fuck nutes up . But I'm not opposed to your method as well. I'm pretty sure Gaia Green is an organ source as well
It's definitely harder to burn with organics this is true however it is possible you go too overboard but it's less likely
 
I'm going to give you the craziest contrarian advice and you might think I'm nuts but the biggest mistake newcomers make is making things too complicated.

Therefore, I think that the best way to get started is to make believe you're growing tomatoes. Get big box store potting soil, miracle gro for flowers and do a run or two life that. Get fancy LATER. Get the basics down FIRST.

Don't worry, your weed will be just fine.
THIS!!!

The only thing I would change, is using MaxiBloom instead of miracle gro. It’s cheap, super easy, and if you ever decide to switch to coco after a few grows, you don’t really need to change anything.
 

Wastei

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Elevate the pots and feed more frequently. That plant is looking for water and nutrients. You should be able to feed everyday growing in soilless ie Pro-mix/Coco Coir.

If you only feed a couple of times a week you let the pots go too dry between waterings. This kills off all the finer roots, raises EC and stunts growth. Water frequency and technique is where you should start. Try some different approaches in terms of watering frequency to learn how the plants react to different inputs.

Doing the same thing and expecting different results is only a fools practice. There's many journals with different approaches with real results to better make up your mind.

The easiest approach is using a traditional A+B formula intended for soilless like Canna Coco or other formulas. Maxigrow/Maxibloom works well too but it's a little harder to use starting out IMO.
 
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medidedicated

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Id see the plant out long as you can. Maybe the next one wont make it this far. Ive had plants bounce back and grow large. Idk why its growing so slow but something isnt dialed in. Maybe try some coco and maxi bloom just feed once a day veg and twice a day flower.

The leaves have this crisped look like I got when I dried soil too much. Leafs would droop and die but when fed it perked but half of each leaf was crispy dead. Might be a watering issue. Soil is tough but I might try it again soon on some mother plants. Coco is pretty easy youll have issues with plants getting too large and yielding too much!

Idk hope all goes well I dont have thick skin to give advice but I try to help if ones struggling. Its the small positive comments here and there that can lift one up and keep going. Dont give up! This hobby can be very rewarding.
 

Blue brother

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Bio bizz all mix and the biobizz bottle line, it's weak, organic and you need atleast 3 of their bottles for best results, grow bloom top max, but it works and it's hard to get wrong, anything new I've grown with it likes more than the feed chart, as new genetics are generally bred to be a lot more hungry, last time I grew skunk x ish stuff with it I started at half the feed chart and worked up to about full strength.

keep in mind a transplant into fresh potting soil can solve a whole host of problems depending how bad you've fucked up, hope this helps

I personally use bio bizz all mix ammeneded with eco thrive life cycle and some other choice ammendments which is pretty bloody easy work, autopits do the watering.

if you're having problems with over/under watering I might suggest watering from the bottom, simply put ur pot in a saucer, fill the saucer with water and keep adding water for 15 mins to keep it full, then whatever is left after an hour you can discard

I hope this helps
 

medidedicated

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Could be in middle of learning things right now but if no one said the soil used right now is bad and should restart.. Changing soils its just going to be different maybe use this as opportunity to play with dry back, see if watering more or less would help.

Im trying to get into soil again and just notice it can come in many ways and require different things. Was just saying if youre willing to change soils maybe having a foot in door in another method like hydro might be fun. I yielded like 4 pounds in last couple yrs but soil is damn tough.

Ive tried a few different approaches and damn. So Im kinda in same boat reading learning with ya. Will another soil really improve things? I at least got a few plants through flower so Im a little more ready for it.
 

MissinThe90’sStrains

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A lot of people here have experience with Jacks, Megacrop, or Maxibloom and get great results, and would be able to advise you along the way. You already have a live plant. Starting over is an option but it really doesn't put you ahead of the game. Rejuvenating this plant could also be a valuable learning experience for the long term, and help to prevent you from making the same errors again. This seed is already popped and paid for. Might as well use it to its full potential.

Getting your grow environment dialed in will be hugely beneficial for any method you choose to go with, and limiting the number of variables you have by keeping it “simple” will leave you with less chances for error. At the end of the day, this is all just an “experiment”, and I like to try and apply the “scientific method”.

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medidedicated

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Matter fact if I recall right its ffof or ff so it could be grower error or also the soil not being the best but its not god awful. I can see the advocating of starting again just to see if its a crappy pheno. If its photo it should eventually grow as big as you want it.

Its been like what 8wks? Ive had 11wk old plants in coco not too big it depends on factors. My 8wk veg plants arent huge either like usual but Im at least figuring out why. Idk if its winter where youre at but its effecting my grow. If you have space sure start another one.
 

Woedae

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I'm the one that told the OP to scrap everything and start over. New beans, fresh soil.
It is true that struggling plants can be nursed back to health. But for a 1st time new grower.... yeah idk about that. He's got everyone recommending he do this or do that, when all he really needs is a fresh start without compromise. A new bag of soil for 1 fabric pot is cheap. $25
My recommendation is to get a seedling mix and a charged mix. Next would be solid genetics, i offered those for free.
Transplant from seedling mix into charged mix and water only. He has liquid fertilizer if he needs it in the second half of flower.
Water only until the plant(s) need more
Happy frog -1.5 cuft
Ocean Forest -1.5 cuft
EWC - 1LB (top dressing)
 

coreywebster

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I havnt done anything to this plant since . Just bring lighting up .bring humidity up to 63, temp up to 77. .
0.9 -1.1 vpd. And have just let it be
LED right?

I'd be upping it to 80f
Remove your sensor from direct light.
That's not a good way to measure air temperature. Could be your actually only at 73-74f .

That's just general advice but it will encourage faster growth, better transpiration.
 
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