Absorbers Bell Syphon Grow

Absorber

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Currently running the 1000w Phlizon light @240w
Thankyou @Phlizon LED Grow Light for the 1000w light i won :hug: i will be putting it to good use ;)
Running Cyco nutrients
Currently have fan set to trigger for either tent at 32°C or 76RH
Theres a vimeo video at the start of the journal that explains how ive wired / 3d printed and designed the setup to work .

Happy growing everyone:blsmoke:
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Absorber

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Flipped to 12/12 twelve days ago
Im running Phlizon FD6900 lights currently set to 340w
I will be changing the nutrients to flower tomorow
The second tent and a dripper issue setting it behind tent B .
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Absorber

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Ok this grow has been a bit of a balls up in both tents .
Six out of the eight clones were in a shit state when they went in and i forgot to add bleach ( rooky mistake) and ended up with root rot on the six later in the grow plus the small drainage pipework i was using blocked way to easily with roots stopping the performance of the bell syphon .
So ive moved the remaining plants that are budding into one tent and i modded the other tent with 90mm drainage pipework and concealed spray lines within the pipework to stop condensation that was forming on the dripper lines during veg from high humidity and chiller on resevoir.
Ive also insulated the pipework and buckets with automotive panel deadener .
Im going to run MegaCrop in the resevoir instead of veg and flower nutrients then i can have one tent in veg while the other is in flower all drinking from the same nutrients .
As soon as the tent finishes flowering i will mod that tent aswellrn_image_picker_lib_temp_b80ef5f6-bd9b-4354-aa75-85d6a9f69ec9.jpgrn_image_picker_lib_temp_98cbe9e8-b160-4ac1-bfc2-0b3a85cd8081.jpgrn_image_picker_lib_temp_207b7b09-1201-43d8-98af-adb38e82cd34.jpgrn_image_picker_lib_temp_70beb917-ab59-4373-bbba-f1b2e77e5880.jpg
 
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ttystikk

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My water from dehumidifier is pumped away ,i have nice fresh tank water
It's up to you, but consider that the water is condensate. Your dehumidifier is in fact distilling water from the air. Check it; you'll find it has zero EC or zero PPM, or very, very close to it. Because it has no dissolved solids, you won't get a reliable pH reading, because pH depends on the acidity of what's in the water, rather than the water itself.

Because it's so pure, you can be confident it will have only the nutrients you put in it.

My system filled a 32 gallon trash can (translation; 120 litre rubbish bin) with water every 2 days. I added nutrients and returned it to my nutrient reservoir. Again, and again, and again.
 

Absorber

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It's up to you, but consider that the water is condensate. Your dehumidifier is in fact distilling water from the air. Check it; you'll find it has zero EC or zero PPM, or very, very close to it. Because it has no dissolved solids, you won't get a reliable pH reading, because pH depends on the acidity of what's in the water, rather than the water itself.

Because it's so pure, you can be confident it will have only the nutrients you put in it.

My system filled a 32 gallon trash can (translation; 120 litre rubbish bin) with water every 2 days. I added nutrients and returned it to my nutrient reservoir. Again, and again, and again.
I did contemplate running it into the resevoir at the start but it collects that much water it would mess with my ppm too much so its easier for me to pump it away
 

ttystikk

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I did contemplate running it into the resevoir at the start but it collects that much water it would mess with my ppm too much so its easier for me to pump it away
Don't put it back in the res directly unless you aren't running hydroponics because it will of course dilute your solution. That's why I had a separate container, added nutrients to it there and only them added to the reservoir.

In any case, I do like the setup and I think I might try a bell siphon approach at some point. It looks like it would work very well with a substrate like expanded clay pellets that has little to no water holding capacity.
 

Wastei

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I've reused the water from the dehumidifier with excellent results; just add nutrients, pH balance and put it right back into your reservoir.
And people have had terrible results too, needs to be mentioned. Its a a good breeding ground for bacteria being stagnant water. I wouldn't personally risk it but my water is only 50ppm out of the tap. I could probably find old pictures of mouldy dehumidifier water.

I guess it all depends on how much you extract and how often you empty the waste water container? My waste container is not well covered in my dehumidifier.
 

ttystikk

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And people have had terrible results too, needs to be mentioned. Its a a good breeding ground for bacteria being stagnant water. I wouldn't personally risk it but my water is only 50ppm out of the tap. I could probably find old pictures of mouldy dehumidifier water.

I guess it all depends on how much you extract and how often you empty the waste water container? My waste container is not well covered in my dehumidifier.
Yeah, the key is not to let it sit around. In a controlled environment grow operation, the water collected is about equal to the water used by the plants- which is not a coincidence. Therefore, keeping up with the reclaimed water should be pretty straightforward and I'd suggest doing it twice a week so it doesn't sit.

When dealing with small at home grows, there is little to be gained unless the local water quality really sucks.
 

Absorber

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Don't put it back in the res directly unless you aren't running hydroponics because it will of course dilute your solution. That's why I had a separate container, added nutrients to it there and only them added to the reservoir.

In any case, I do like the setup and I think I might try a bell siphon approach at some point. It looks like it would work very well with a substrate like expanded clay pellets that has little to no water holding capacity.
The whole reason ive designed this setup the way i have is to get rid of medium especially clay balls they are too time consuming to clean .
Minimal medium is best it lowers overheads and maitenence time thats why i use 50mm grow wool blocks .
 
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