RockStonedJesus
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I seem to be having a rough patch with my clones, perhaps I'm over-thinking it, or perhaps there's something seriously wrong?
I've got three plants which I took cuttings off - of two are new genetics / popped from seed, while the other one is 2nd generation cuttings. The second generation cutting is one of 10 I took, with a 10/10 cutting success rate. The others went to friends.
About a month ago, I took cuttings from all three of my plants - totaling to about 30 cuttings. My proceedure was standard:
This first round, I think I stuffed up with too much moisture, as I was foliar spraying them once a day + didn't leave the humidity dome open to allow a more regulated humidity inside the dome. All these cuttings ended up rotting away, zero roots formed. There was some white fuzzy mold on a few of the stems. They were doing well for a week and a bit, but still had no roots, they all ended up dying on about week 2. I did open the domes for a few minutes every day, but clearly, that wasn't enough.
I then did a second round of clones, another 30 clones, after the OG's ended up dying/rotting. This time, I changed things up a little, and ensured the humidity domes were partially opened, allowing for more exchange of air, and better humidity control.
After about a week, there was still no signs of rooting - further, I noticed some of the stems were kind of rotting/shrinking, but the foliage was still 100% healthy. Coming to week two, they all started slowly dying off, further rotting away. They were a complete write off. There was no way the stems were going to push roots at that point.
Here we are today - I managed to get a Turbo Kloner from Facebook Marketplace for cheap! Woo. I sanitized it with H2O2, rinsed it, and prepared it for growing. It was already very clean, and was left unused for some time, so I don't think there are any issues there, but, after about a week, all 24 clones looked like they weren't going to take off.
There didn't appear to be any callousing on any of the stems, and yet again, it looked like the stems were shrinking, rather than bursting root nubs. WHAT?
A little after a week, coming to 2 weeks, there were still no roots forming, rather, it looks like the stems were rotting/dying back, in a completely different environment.
What the heck is going on? The only thing I can think of is either:
I have since moved my Turbo Kloner into a temperature controlled room, aiming for about 23/24 degrees C, to help keep the water cool. I also currently have it on a 2 minute on/15 minutes off timer for the water pump, so they're not constantly wet. I also threw out some of the older cuttings, and put some fresh cuttings in.
It has now been a week later since the new cuttings were put in the Turbo Kloner, and still, I'm not seeing any success. Infact, it looks like the stems may be rotting also? They're still on the green side, but they look like they're going to shrink like the others, and die off.
I'm at a complete loss at the moment, it's getting quite stressful. I might be over-thinking it, but I've watched and read hundreds of videos/forums/threads on cloning just to ensure I'm not stuffing anything up, and somehow, things just don't seem to be getting any better. My mother plants are super healthy. And to add insult to injury, I flipped the plants into flowering, not expecting to have a 100% failure rate like this.
I've attached a few pics from the Turbo Kloner.... I've tried all sorts of cuttings, and techniques (IE: Terminate the cutting just below the node, keeping some stem below the node, lightly scrape off, no scraping, flat cut, angle cut, etc, etc), absolutely 0 luck. I worry these cuttings will also rot and die off. The stems above the clone collar are still alive, but as soon as you look at the stem below the collar, it's shriveled, small, looks necrotic.
Anyone can point me in the right direction will be sincerely appreciated.
I do have distilled water which I will switch to if I end up with another complete loss. Do I need to add nutrients to the water? Hormones? Something to help speed up the rooting process other than my CloneX IBA?
I've got three plants which I took cuttings off - of two are new genetics / popped from seed, while the other one is 2nd generation cuttings. The second generation cutting is one of 10 I took, with a 10/10 cutting success rate. The others went to friends.
About a month ago, I took cuttings from all three of my plants - totaling to about 30 cuttings. My proceedure was standard:
- Soak Eazy Plugs in tap water with a low dose of H2O2 (pH around 6.5)
- Allow the plugs to drain any excess water
- Using a skewer, gently open the holes in each of the plugs
- Take cuttings from plant, fixing up cutting with a slight angle on the cutting and very light scraping of the outer skin of the cutting
- Trim off 1/3rd of the leaf tips
- Dip the cutting in GT's CloneX Purple Gel
- Place the cutting into the Eazy Plug, ensuring it's snug in the plug
- Put the humidity dome ontop once all cuttings are complete
This first round, I think I stuffed up with too much moisture, as I was foliar spraying them once a day + didn't leave the humidity dome open to allow a more regulated humidity inside the dome. All these cuttings ended up rotting away, zero roots formed. There was some white fuzzy mold on a few of the stems. They were doing well for a week and a bit, but still had no roots, they all ended up dying on about week 2. I did open the domes for a few minutes every day, but clearly, that wasn't enough.
I then did a second round of clones, another 30 clones, after the OG's ended up dying/rotting. This time, I changed things up a little, and ensured the humidity domes were partially opened, allowing for more exchange of air, and better humidity control.
After about a week, there was still no signs of rooting - further, I noticed some of the stems were kind of rotting/shrinking, but the foliage was still 100% healthy. Coming to week two, they all started slowly dying off, further rotting away. They were a complete write off. There was no way the stems were going to push roots at that point.
Here we are today - I managed to get a Turbo Kloner from Facebook Marketplace for cheap! Woo. I sanitized it with H2O2, rinsed it, and prepared it for growing. It was already very clean, and was left unused for some time, so I don't think there are any issues there, but, after about a week, all 24 clones looked like they weren't going to take off.
There didn't appear to be any callousing on any of the stems, and yet again, it looked like the stems were shrinking, rather than bursting root nubs. WHAT?
A little after a week, coming to 2 weeks, there were still no roots forming, rather, it looks like the stems were rotting/dying back, in a completely different environment.
What the heck is going on? The only thing I can think of is either:
- Temperatures too high (24-29 degrees C - temperatures are heating up here)
- Water quality from the tap is causing dramas
- My H2O2 is causing issues (even at dilute rates, could it be causing issues? I believe there is a stabilizer chemical added to my H2O2, perhaps this is causing me dramas...? Clutching at straws?)
- My mother plants (all three), are somehow infected with something?
I have since moved my Turbo Kloner into a temperature controlled room, aiming for about 23/24 degrees C, to help keep the water cool. I also currently have it on a 2 minute on/15 minutes off timer for the water pump, so they're not constantly wet. I also threw out some of the older cuttings, and put some fresh cuttings in.
It has now been a week later since the new cuttings were put in the Turbo Kloner, and still, I'm not seeing any success. Infact, it looks like the stems may be rotting also? They're still on the green side, but they look like they're going to shrink like the others, and die off.
I'm at a complete loss at the moment, it's getting quite stressful. I might be over-thinking it, but I've watched and read hundreds of videos/forums/threads on cloning just to ensure I'm not stuffing anything up, and somehow, things just don't seem to be getting any better. My mother plants are super healthy. And to add insult to injury, I flipped the plants into flowering, not expecting to have a 100% failure rate like this.
I've attached a few pics from the Turbo Kloner.... I've tried all sorts of cuttings, and techniques (IE: Terminate the cutting just below the node, keeping some stem below the node, lightly scrape off, no scraping, flat cut, angle cut, etc, etc), absolutely 0 luck. I worry these cuttings will also rot and die off. The stems above the clone collar are still alive, but as soon as you look at the stem below the collar, it's shriveled, small, looks necrotic.
Anyone can point me in the right direction will be sincerely appreciated.
I do have distilled water which I will switch to if I end up with another complete loss. Do I need to add nutrients to the water? Hormones? Something to help speed up the rooting process other than my CloneX IBA?
