Cloning a flowering plant

[Woedae]

Is there any truth in that you can clone a flowering female. My buddy has a "keeper" as he calls it, but didn't take any clones before flowering. Now the plant is in week 8 (including 2 week transition), so really week 6.

I told him to just proceed onward to harvest day, leave a branch on and flip back to veg cycle.
He insisting that you can clone a late flowering plant.

Any advice is appreciated. Thanks

 

[Star Dog]

Yes you can root them in flower but the later it is the more difficult it is to get roots, I'd use air layering for that reason but I'd also allow for re vegging the plant like you suggested.

I've a few pics here related to air layering the orange one was circa 60 days in flower.

 

[Woedae]

Yes you can root them in flower but the later it is the more difficult it is to get roots, I'd use air layering for that reason but I'd also allow for re vegging the plant like you suggested.

Thanks.
Yeah I figured harvest is only a few weeks out and if the clone does root, it'll take at least that long. Why not just leave it on the original root stock and reveg.

 

[conor c]

Thanks.
Yeah I figured harvest is only a few weeks out and if the clone does root, it'll take at least that long. Why not just leave it on the original root stock and reveg.

That can be harder sometimes and slower to bounce back be my guess

 

[Woedae]

That can be harder sometimes and slower to bounce back be my guess

?? The rooted clone or branch left on original rootstock??

 

[tuksu6000]

Yes you can root them in flower but the later it is the more difficult it is to get roots, I'd use air layering for that reason but I'd also allow for re vegging the plant like you suggested.

I've a few pics here related to air layering the orange one was circa 60 days in flower.
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60 days is pretty hardcore. Congrats!

 

[Woedae]

Yes you can root them in flower but the later it is the more difficult it is to get roots, I'd use air layering for that reason but I'd also allow for re vegging the plant like you suggested.

I've a few pics here related to air layering the orange one was circa 60 days in flower.
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That's really cool! Is this something that's possible in late flower? Like 8 weeks into 12/12
Also, what's with the twist tie?

 

[Farmer's Hat]

Ive taken rooted cuttings from plants that were 8 weeks in flower. The trick is to select the lowest larf branches that dont have big buds.

Also, reversing a whole plant is pretty reliable. Just make sure to trim it back quite a bit. It will take around 2 months before you have any tangible plant material to propagate.

 

[Woedae]

Ive taken rooted cuttings from plants that were 8 weeks in flower. The trick is to select the lowest larf branches that dont have big buds.

Also, reversing a whole plant is pretty reliable. Just make sure to trim it back quite a bit. It will take around 2 months before you have any tangible plant material to propagate.

I read that the rooting success rate is moderate with late flowering cutting. I'm supposed to expect around 25% or so that don't root.

What do you mean, "trim it back", like fan leaves? Similar to standard cloning, ...cut the fan blades back 1/2 to minimize transpiration and reduce overall nutrient storage?
From what I'm understanding is to treat it like a normal clone? And this would be for a cutting, correct?

What about leaving branches on the original rootstock post harvest? Trim back 1/2 fans and increase RH?

 

[Farmer's Hat]

I read that the rooting success rate is moderate with late flowering cutting. I'm supposed to expect around 25% or so that don't root.

What do you mean, "trim it back", like fan leaves? Similar to standard cloning, ...cut the fan blades back 1/2 to minimize transpiration and reduce overall nutrient storage?
From what I'm understanding is to treat it like a normal clone? And this would be for a cutting, correct?

What about leaving branches on the original rootstock post harvest? Trim back 1/2 fans and increase RH?

That is accurate. Rooting cuttings that are in flower have a lower success rate. However, if your using an aeroponic cloner, your odds will be much better.

For revegging the whole plant, dont remove or trim leaves, it needs them to photosynthesize. Let them die back naturally. Prune the plant, remove some branches. The plant's energy will be more concentrated if it goes into less axillary buds. It will help the plant reveg quicker.

 

[Woedae]

That is accurate. Rooting cuttings that are in flower have a lower success rate. However, if your using an aeroponic cloner, your odds will be much better.

For revegging the whole plant, dont remove or trim leaves, it needs them to photosynthesize. Let them die back naturally. Prune the plant, remove some branches. The plant's energy will be more concentrated if it goes into less axillary buds. It will help the plant reveg quicker.
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Ok, that makes sense! I thought it was odd to cut off half the fans blade length. One would think the rootless cutting will need all its stored nutrients. Thanks

 

[Star Dog]

That's really cool! Is this something that's possible in late flower? Like 8 weeks into 12/12
Also, what's with the twist tie?

The tie/choke ime makes it root quicker and more reliably, the aim is to tighten it enough to restrict sap but not cut it completely.