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MissinThe90’sStrains

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Taller pheno first 2 pics. “Little sister” 3rd pic. She gave me a couple footballs and a bunch of solid hand grenades, hidden in that little shrub. Quick removal of fan leaves and the hung the branches to dry. Both plants produced nice solid buds with plenty of frost. Long trichome stalks give them a fuzzy look.
 

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Sedan

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Taller pheno first 2 pics. “Little sister” 3rd pic. She gave me a couple footballs and a bunch of solid hand grenades, hidden in that little shrub. Quick removal of fan leaves and the hung the branches to dry. Both plants produced nice solid buds with plenty of frost. Long trichome stalks give them a fuzzy look.
I determine the quality of the bud by the number of dry stigmas. The fewer dry stigmas during flowering, the better the quality of the product.

There is a false opinion that dry stigmas are ripe stigmas. No - dry stigmas are dead stigmas! In open nature, there are no dry stigmas if the growing conditions are ideal.
 

Sedan

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can say it differently: smoking dry stigmas is not tasty. It tastes like mold, but less intense.
 

Sedan

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And don't think that I can do it all the time!)) No, it's very difficult, especially in the summer.

70-80% of living stigmas is ideal for me indoors.

I saw something similar in your photo above. I responded to it there, on the previous page.
 

Sedan

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Your fertilizers are wonderful!!.. I can't make such a mixture here))) we don't sell such things here...
 

MissinThe90’sStrains

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@Sedan, there are many different types of mixes that you can make, and different items that you can substitute. Most of these items are a waste product from another industry - ground seed meals from food crop or cosmetics processing, bone, blood, or fish meal from meat and fish processing, animal manure, compost, wood ash, rock dust from mining and commercial gravel production, and ground oyster shells. You can use banana peels for potassium (boil them to make a tea), bloodmeal for nitrogen, and add soft rock phosphate to your soil for Phosphorus.

There should be diverse resources available, but they may be difficult to track down. Just start looking to see what is cheap and plentiful around you, and start looking up NPK and mineral content for such items - Leaves, animal manure or bedding material, corn husks, vegetable and fruit compost, used grains from making beer, used tea or coffee grounds - these garbage items can all be useful.

I started reading these forums and learning. I was disappointed in my expensive bottled fertilizers and bagged soil. I wanted to try something different. I flushed my old salt-filled soil, added castings and amendments to it, and sent it. This is run #4, and each run is a learning experience.
 

Sedan

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bloodmeal for nitrogen, and add soft rock phosphate to your soil for Phosphorus.
Understand right, друже, we don't have blood flour, and mountains. I live in a metropolis, I can only buy what's in the store.

there are many different types of mixes that you can make
I chose - it's KNF. I have all the ingredients for it. The basis is rice. But I don't know if it will work... because you need to cook it in the forest, bury it and wait until mushrooms form in a box of rice. Then all sorts of mixtures are made from this from the products that I also have. Only after the war.. you will need to go to the forest with a mine detector, even for mushrooms.)) there are mines and various ammunition.. left to our grandchildren.... everything is covered with unexploded ammunition there. And secondly: I hope to live to see the end of the war.))) This is probably the most important thing!
 

MissinThe90’sStrains

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3/4 plants have been cut and hung to dry for a week and then put into tubs with humidity gauges to finish slow drying. I might start trimming tomorrow and moving them to smaller tubs, and then jars in the next few days. The 3 pots of soil have also been amended and are now cooking. The 2nd mix is a little bit stronger than the first one I made a few days ago. I’ll keep slowly ramping up the mix strength until it burns. I have more plants ready to go, but the soil isn’t ready yet, so we wait.

Saints Crossing still remains, and will get taken in the next few days. She didn’t get enough light this round and the soil ran out of food. It’s ok though, I have a backup mom and I’ll dial her in eventually. All in all, a decent run but could have been better.

Pics of some drying MTF buds, taller pheno.
 

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MissinThe90’sStrains

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I tried to cheap out and everything was drying perfectly with my “fan blowing on a wet towel in the tent“ until I feel asleep and didn’t wet the towel on day 8, after tubbing everything up. Overdried :-( but still smokes pretty well and I think I found the best keeper from the 3. Also, I learned my lesson and ordered a fucking humidifier for the tent and to be used in the dry area. Yields on the GB, SC and MTF taller pheno were all within 1/2 oz of each other in weight, around 170 grams each. Smaller MTF was in the corner and didn’t stretch, only made 130 grams.

MTF taller pheno - sativa up front, strong in the head, then balances out more to the body. Flavor I get is faint cherry and almost menthol like. More sativa than I wanted and expected. Absolutely beautiful plant, with nice density on the buds, even the lowers. Gonna be tough to kill this off, but at the end of the day, I grow for me, not for market. Might hold on to her anddo a small targeted f2 with her sister and 2 males if I pop the rest of the past later on.

MTF shorter pheno - strong indica dominant buzz, hits quickly, with long lasting calming after-effects, makes me feel like I took an antidepressant or tranquilizer. Good for sleeping, pretty much knocks me out and slows me down a peg or 2. Flavor is very floral, like rose and lavender. I really like this one. Probably a good strain for me to hold on to. NL#1 is in this backcross, and I’m guessing there’s still a touch of that coming though, even though this is a bx4. Lowers made a lot of larf. Running again with better training, more space, and more light should help that. the most important part is finding the best smoke first, then dialing it in later. Good run, had no problems with her.

Grape Bubba - now what I was expecting from the morphology. Creeper indica type high, takes a few minutes to kick in. Mellow and, chill, sleep pretty well after this one. Flavor is floral/hashy with a bit of mild grape. This might make better hash than flower. Produced a lot of kief when trimming. Buzz is more mellow than I want for night time. Might make better day smoke. I don’t like the way this thing grew - stretchy and didn’t give really nice buds. This pack was a freebie, and I might explore the rest later. I really want a nice bubba dom plant, and this isn’t the only bubba pack I have.

SC - 3rd time running it, and as expected. Chill indica dominant hybrid, good for pain and sleep. Relaxing and calming smoke.

I mixed it with the MTF indica dom pheno last night, and it was wonderful. Definitely gonna be doing that again. Mixed em both together and put some kief in there as a nightcap. Took one big hit at 11 pm on the couch, and then woke up at 3 am - still on the couch. Finished the bowl and went to bed :-).

I pruned all the moms and took cuts of most to refresh them. They’re getting shrubby and woody. Neville’s G13 x Headband #2 pheno started to throw some male flowers, probably getting rootbound in her 3 gallon pot after so long. She got the chop. After the cuts root, they’ll all be transplanted. The Neville’s G13 x Headband 2 remaining phenos might get run next. After that, I might dig into some of my fems from Inkognyto. I’ve never run fems before, but the idea of not culling males makes it appealing to try 2-4 different strains and still keep my low plant count.
 

Sedan

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Now I see.

Overdried
I dry it in such a way that it is impossible to overdry the buds.

It is done very simply, I do not dry the buds completely, do my manicure, put them in a jar and put them in the refrigerator. Then every day I take the jar with the buds out of the refrigerator and put the buds on a newspaper for 5-10 minutes, then back into the jar and into the refrigerator.

I do this procedure until the condensation/sweat on the inside of the jar disappears.

It is simple, I take the jar out of the refrigerator, open it, and run my finger along the inside of the jar. When there is condensation, then a trace of the finger remains.

But if there is no trace, then this means that all the excess moisture from the buds has evaporated.

To be sure, you can put the buds on a newspaper for 5-10 minutes again the next day. Then you will be sure that you have not overdried even a gram.

I need to do this because with my volumes, from improper drying I can lose 50... and 100 grams of harvest. And that's a lot.))
 

Farmer's Hat

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The most important part is finding the best smoke first, then dialing it in later.
100%
Im a little bummed that I didn't keep a cut of the Brandywine I grew this year, in the greenhouse. So far, its been the best high out of the whole crop. It was uplifting, euphoric, and actually put a smile on my face. Clean, mellow, and well balanced for me. Lucky for me, I have enough flower to last me a solid year.
I did pollinate the Brandywine, but I suspect its going to be a pretty long quest to find a copy of the mother.

Anyway, its been fun following your thread. You got some great stuff happening.
Happy New Year!
 

GreenGenez421

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Impressive.... you stepped out of the norm from all those bullshit bottles. Organics isn't the easiest but once you find your groove, it's a full steam ahead kinda train. Beautiful plants and I really dig your approach! I'm willing to bet you'll venture into different soil formulations in the near future. I'd highly suggest a coco dominant bed, it's worked wonders for me for many years now. Definitely a commitment when your looking at 600-700 gallons, so I had no choice but to find a way to make coco work in a no till bed.

Bravo buddy, well done!!
 

Farmer's Hat

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Impressive.... you stepped out of the norm from all those bullshit bottles. Organics isn't the easiest but once you find your groove, it's a full steam ahead kinda train. Beautiful plants and I really dig your approach! I'm willing to bet you'll venture into different soil formulations in the near future. I'd highly suggest a coco dominant bed, it's worked wonders for me for many years now. Definitely a commitment when your looking at 600-700 gallons, so I had no choice but to find a way to make coco work in a no till bed.

Bravo buddy, well done!!
Ive seen 1 impressive large indoor operation that grew in "no till" beds. Seeing that was a paradigm shift for me. The concept of growing multiple plants in the same bed has been somewhat controversial, especially when the plants are not given adequate root space, but this grower in Humboldt made it work. It was really impressive.

I'm thinking about trying that this year. I will have to do lots of research in preparation.
 

GreenGenez421

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Ive seen 1 impressive large indoor operation that grew in "no till" beds. Seeing that was a paradigm shift for me. The concept of growing multiple plants in the same bed has been somewhat controversial, especially when the plants are not given adequate root space, but this grower in Humboldt made it work. It was really impressive.

I'm thinking about trying that this year. I will have to do lots of research in preparation.
I've noticed that as well, plants need their own personal space. In my grows I never go beyond 8 and I give them each a 2'x2'x22" that seems to be working fairly well. But honestly I think it comes down to each plant having what I needs everytime it needs it. Roots go wherever they want and I definitely have an intertwined network going on, but the real secret..... I feel is the microbial herd and the biome they establish.

2 years back i grew out some tomatoes in 18gal SIP outdoors, I had several plants in each, and even with hard walls and crowed roots, they cranked out tomatoes like I've never seen before. Strange enough tho, the 2 other containers I was using, (fabric 30 gal pot and a 12 gal plastic pot) those plants didn't do anywhere near what the SIPs did. The main difference...... constant access to water and never drying back...... so, water and microbial vitality.
 
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