Trump says he will end birthright citizenship

[doublejj]

“We’re going to have to get it changed,” Trump said, referring to the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
The 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868, states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” A constitutional amendment approved by Congress requires ratification by three-fourths of the states.
“I was going to do it through executive action but then we had to fix Covid first, to be honest with you,” Trump said. “We have to end it. It’s ridiculous.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/08/trump-end-birthright-citizenship-00193184

 

[sunni]

hmmi wonder how this will effect my kiddo,

 

[conor c]

“We’re going to have to get it changed,” Trump said, referring to the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
The 14th Amendment, which was ratified in 1868, states: “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States.” A constitutional amendment approved by Congress requires ratification by three-fourths of the states.
“I was going to do it through executive action but then we had to fix Covid first, to be honest with you,” Trump said. “We have to end it. It’s ridiculous.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/12/08/trump-end-birthright-citizenship-00193184

So simply being born there doesn't make you an American citizen by default anymore if he gets his way that's a bit messed up if I am getting you right ?

 

[jimihendrix1]

From what I understand, he cant do this, on his own. It will take an act of congress, and approval of I believe 3/4 of the states.
Not saying he wont try though.

 

[sunni]

From what I understand, he cant do this, on his own. It will take an act of congress, and approval of I believe 3/4 of the states.
Not saying he wont try though.

he said quoted he would go through an executive order if he has too

 

[jimihendrix1]

he said quoted he would go through an executive order if he has too

Yeah, I know that, but, I dont believe he can do an executive order, and bypass congress, in this case. It is still debatable though.
But, I have no doubts he will try, and from what Ive read, it will most likely be settled by the UNSupreme Court, which, I have ittle faith in, to do the lawful thing. Theyve already gone against precedents.

 

[doublejj]

Yeah, I know that, but, I dont believe he can do an executive order, and bypass congress, in this case.

Trumps Supreme court will allow him to do what ever he wants to the US Constitution..

 

[doublejj]

President Biden Should Issue a Blanket Pardon of Undocumented Immigrants

President Biden Should Issue a Blanket Pardon of Undocumented Immigrants

Protecting Trump’s enemies from prosecution just reinforces the idea of politics as retribution. Instead, Democrats should be defending his most vulnerable targets.

www.thenation.com

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Wouldn't that mean Melania has to go?

 

[MissinThe90’sStrains]

Can we return her to the poor taxidermist that screwed her up in the first place?

 

[Hollatchaboy]

Can we return her to the poor taxidermist that screwed her up in the first place?

I don't want anyone to have to leave. Including Melania. I have no beef with her.

 

[doublejj]

I don't want anyone to have to leave. Including Melania. I have no beef with her.

I'm sure Melania and Elon will receive pardons.
Baron is an anchor baby..

 

[Rufus T. Firefly]

The guy says a lot of stupid shit. I think it'd be highlarious if he weren't the President.

 

[Dr.Amber Trichome]

The guy says a lot of stupid shit. I think it'd be highlarious if he weren't the President.

I agree, he is so full of shit. He just says stuff to say it with not caring if it really happens. He free flows like diarrhea of the mouth. He isn’t even provocative or interesting or reliable in his ideas because they mostly don’t come to fruition anyway. No use getting upset about bullshit. It’s the same old play book, like Kamala would say.
what’s he going to do about the border wall he started? That is a real physical thing. I haven’t heard any thing about working on completing the job.

 

[Gro-n-again]

Yeah, I know that, but, I dont believe he can do an executive order, and bypass congress, in this case. It is still debatable though.
But, I have no doubts he will try, and from what Ive read, it will most likely be settled by the UNSupreme Court, which, I have ittle faith in, to do the lawful thing. Theyve already gone against precedents.

You'd be right if the "birthright citizenship" were a law passed by congress. But it isn't, it only stands because of a previous executive order by a former President.

A president has the power to undo an executive order via executive order.

 

[Nugnewbie]

You'd be right if the "birthright citizenship" were a law passed by congress. But it isn't, it only stands because of a previous executive order by a former President.

A president has the power to undo an executive order via executive order.

From wikipedia:
Birthright citizenship is guaranteed to most people born within U.S. territory (other than American Samoa) by the first part of the Citizenship Clause introduced by the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution (adopted July 9, 186, which states:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside."
The Amendment overrode the Supreme Court decision in Dred Scott v. Sandford (1857) that denied U.S. citizenship to African Americans, whether born in the United States or not, and whether a slave or a free person.[2] Pursuant to the Fourteenth Amendment and the Immigration and Nationality Act a person born within and subject to the jurisdiction of the United States automatically acquires U.S. citizenship, known as jus soli ("right of the soil").[3] This includes the territories of Puerto Rico, the Marianas (Guam and the Northern Mariana Islands), and the U.S. Virgin Islands.[4][5] The "subject to the jurisdiction thereof" clause excluded Native Americans living under tribal sovereignty, and U.S.-born children of foreign diplomats. Birthright citizenship was later extended to U.S.-born Native American subjects by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924. Federal law also grants birthright citizenship to children born elsewhere in the world to U.S. citizens (with certain exceptions), known as jus sanguinis ("right of blood").

So, wasn't an executive order.

 

[Rufus T. Firefly]

You'd be right if the "birthright citizenship" were a law passed by congress. But it isn't, it only stands because of a previous executive order by a former President.

Curious to know what you based the above opinion on. Like a source you could perhaps link to. It's a serious question I'm not just trying to rag you out.

 

[jimihendrix1]

You'd be right if the "birthright citizenship" were a law passed by congress. But it isn't, it only stands because of a previous executive order by a former President.

A president has the power to undo an executive order via executive order.

Its Guaranteed, in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. NOT, Executive Order.

 

[doublejj]

Its Guaranteed, in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution. NOT, Executive Order.

trump and his supreme court will just spit on the Constitution and he will do what ever he wants. There will be no checks on trumps power.

 

[Week4@inCharge]

Would this be from here on out or for everyone up to this date and on? Because.... That would be me, my folks were not citizens but my dad somehow served a full term in the US Army (Puerto Rican). They were visiting family (from my moms side) in Mexicali, Mexico. That town borders the US, when my mom realized it was time they raced towards home 1.5 hours away, they didn't make it and I was born just inside the USA. If not I would have dual citizen eventually but I've been here in California nearly my entire life (almost 60 years). And now this jackass Presidents phobia wants to kick us out?