Led side light supplement grow

Meanmonsoon

Active Member
Yep that's it. I had planned something similar using perspex sheets, but really it was going to be an expensive and cumbersome experiment so I flagged it. I scrog nowadays but feel like growing a tree again now lol
Nice yeh it starts getting expensive pretty quick especially these day. If only you had built it though it would have paid itself off and we could compare.
Lol it gets that way after scrogging for a while
 

Lou66

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Does this help the plant spread out naturally as opposed to LST?
Unlikely. It is normal for plants to get light from the side during sunrise and dawn. The apical dominance, growing upwards, has the function to be taller than surrounding plants thus getting the most light.

LST screws with the plant. The hormones that induce growth get distributed differently. Naturally they accumulate at the highest point in the plant. If the growth tip is bent down side branches get the hormones and start growing instead.
 

FatherNelson

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Unlikely. It is normal for plants to get light from the side during sunrise and dawn. The apical dominance, growing upwards, has the function to be taller than surrounding plants thus getting the most light.

LST screws with the plant. The hormones that induce growth get distributed differently. Naturally they accumulate at the highest point in the plant. If the growth tip is bent down side branches get the hormones and start growing instead.
Correct me if I have a general misunderstanding, but doesnt photosynthesis focus to where the leaf can absorb and transform photons into energy?

My LST plants vs non- LST in veg have a monumental difference in growth and stem/ branch thickness.
 

Lou66

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Correct me if I have a general misunderstanding, but doesnt photosynthesis focus to where the leaf can absorb and transform photons into energy?

My LST plants vs non- LST in veg have a monumental difference in growth and stem/ branch thickness.
I don't understand you. LST is bending a plant into a specific shape. It is not related to lighting.
 

ttystikk

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Not sure if this is the right place.

Cheap build made with corrugated polycarb sheet and timber stakes.
A single plant in a 4x4 tent
4 side light panels 110w each. Each has 16 560mm strips
450w led overhead
chem og type of cross
Coco with biochar and frass top dress. 15 litre pot
Used a local a+b nutrients and some additives. High ppm used
Introduced side lights at day 21
Ppfd overhead 1000-500. Ppfd sidelight 550-150
A bit over 1.6g per watt of great herb
I might be late to this party but it sure looks like you're doing it right to me!

Vertical gardening is just that; using vertical space to grow more plant material than simple floor space allows. This can be done with stacked trays and it can be done with vertical plane grows.

What you're doing is something of a hybrid and I'm interested in seeing how things turn out for you!
 

ttystikk

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I don't understand you. LST is bending a plant into a specific shape. It is not related to lighting.
It better be! If you aren't spreading your plants out to take better advantage of available light you're missing out. The point of a horizontal canopy is to concentrate the greatest plant mass at the optimal distance from the lighting. This holds true for both vertical grows and flatlander grows.
 

TheOriginalDankmaster

Active Member
Not sure if this is the right place.

Cheap build made with corrugated polycarb sheet and timber stakes.
A single plant in a 4x4 tent
4 side light panels 110w each. Each has 16 560mm strips
450w led overhead
chem og type of cross
Coco with biochar and frass top dress. 15 litre pot
Used a local a+b nutrients and some additives. High ppm used
Introduced side lights at day 21
Ppfd overhead 1000-500. Ppfd sidelight 550-150
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This is IMPRESSIVE! You have lighting from every angle/side tightly packed down to the lowers. Yes without a doubt CripXmas is made for your set up. Heck you can even get your overhead lights lower to increase PAR output and the all plants will be encased like a giant Phototron effect. I venture to say you can get 4-5 in that space. They take up less footprint and vertical height being dwarf plants with a tighter branch structure. I know you'd ROCK a grow of full buds filled down to the bottom base many more would want it after watching yours perform outstandingly.
 

FatherNelson

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It better be! If you aren't spreading your plants out to take better advantage of available light you're missing out. The point of a horizontal canopy is to concentrate the greatest plant mass at the optimal distance from the lighting. This holds true for both vertical grows and flatlander grows.
Supercropping isnt because of where the light hits, Its because the plant wanted to be super!
 

N4CR

Member
Curious to see if this works on several different strains. I've tried some side lighting and wasn't sure if it made any difference because some strains are more "larfy" than others no matter what I did to get more light to that area. But maybe I just didn't hit the side lighting hard enough. Cool idea, though!
Been doing this for over 15 years and yes it helps all strains (I invented the current white+red mix that current LEDs use (except IR as it wasn't viable due to LEDs), all the way back then). I wouldn't use led strips like this due to poor efficiency though. There are more gains to be had with proper DIY, heatsinked leds..
 

ttystikk

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Been doing this for over 15 years and yes it helps all strains (I invented the current white+red mix that current LEDs use (except IR as it wasn't viable due to LEDs), all the way back then). I wouldn't use led strips like this due to poor efficiency though. There are more gains to be had with proper DIY, heatsinked leds..
I've done a bit of side lighting...
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ttystikk

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watercooled COBS, TIR lens?
ALways wanted to do watercooled for floor heating lol.

Why only one angle?
Very cool to see it done this way though thanks for sharing.
Yes, water cooled fixtures. It's a glass lens, 90 degree to pull in the footprint of the light just a bit.

What angle are you referring to?

There are many more pics from years ago in my thread "ttystikk's vertical goodness" in the vertical growing section... Grab a beer and scroll through, I think you'll find it interesting.
 
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