Farmer's Hat
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Seeds are looking plumpy.
Trichome development is looking good.
I think its time to put up the second net.
Trichome development is looking good.
I think its time to put up the second net.
F3 Valley Ice. (Matanuska x SFV OG)
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Lurpin
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Right on man. I'm in Bellingham WA. I moved here a little over a year ago from California, but originally from Maui. My story is very similar to yours. I have a huge genetics collection, worked in the industry since about 2009 (legal/medical, and black market). I had to get out and try pursuing other things other than cannabis. After I move into my new house I'm about to try to get set back up again just as a hobby. I have an F1 cross of Larry og and Cinderella 99 that I've been meaning to work out into about F3, or F4. Your breeding project seems pretty awesome. Looking forward to watch it unfold. Keep on keeping on dude.
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Farmer's Hat
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Small world
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The purple male clone seems to be reversing. Its a little rough looking at the moment, but I will nurse it back to excellent health now thats its out of the seedling dome and transplanted.
The other male cutting need a little more time to develop stronger roots. Perhaps another week. Ive never reversed a male before, so this will be very interesting to observe. By the looks of it, it seems to be reversing quicker than a female.
The other male cutting need a little more time to develop stronger roots. Perhaps another week. Ive never reversed a male before, so this will be very interesting to observe. By the looks of it, it seems to be reversing quicker than a female.
Farmer's Hat
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Everything is looking good in the greenhouse. Im quite surprised by how smooth everything is going.
There are two plants that are really behind in flower. I decided not to pollinate those two. I will eventually have to breed out that late flowering gene. This is a clear example of why I like testing my seeds outdoors. Im not sure if I would be able to notice something like this if I was growing them indoors.
On a side note, im pretty sure I got everything sorted out for my indoor set up. I was tempted to turn the spare bedroom into a full blown grow room, but instead decided to invest in a tent.
My goal is to keep improving and stabilizing this strain. Growing out smaller plants in large volumes seems like the best tactic.
My general plan is a SOG perpetual cycle. A total of 12 plants always in the flower tent. 6 plants will be shuffled in and out every month or so. The seedlings will have approximately 4 weeks of veg before being shuffled into the flower tent.
Since all of the Valley Ice seeds are regs, I will have to double the number of plants being shuffled in. They will be kept in quart pots until they are sexed. The girls will then be transplanted into 1gl pots. The males will be cast out into the wild so that it toughens them up.
I might use some of the pollen from the males that survive being outdoors in the winter... Lol
I will go over more of the details some other time.
Cheers
There are two plants that are really behind in flower. I decided not to pollinate those two. I will eventually have to breed out that late flowering gene. This is a clear example of why I like testing my seeds outdoors. Im not sure if I would be able to notice something like this if I was growing them indoors.
On a side note, im pretty sure I got everything sorted out for my indoor set up. I was tempted to turn the spare bedroom into a full blown grow room, but instead decided to invest in a tent.
My goal is to keep improving and stabilizing this strain. Growing out smaller plants in large volumes seems like the best tactic.
My general plan is a SOG perpetual cycle. A total of 12 plants always in the flower tent. 6 plants will be shuffled in and out every month or so. The seedlings will have approximately 4 weeks of veg before being shuffled into the flower tent.
Since all of the Valley Ice seeds are regs, I will have to double the number of plants being shuffled in. They will be kept in quart pots until they are sexed. The girls will then be transplanted into 1gl pots. The males will be cast out into the wild so that it toughens them up.
I might use some of the pollen from the males that survive being outdoors in the winter... Lol
I will go over more of the details some other time.
Cheers
Farmer's Hat
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Quick update. Two of the valley ice plants are displaying a purple pheno. Making that a total of 3 out of 7. Im pretty surprised that this beautiful purple pheno has appeared out of nowhere.
One of those purple plants has a beautiful haze like structure. The flowers are developing beautifully.
One of those purple plants has a beautiful haze like structure. The flowers are developing beautifully.
Farmer's Hat
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Both males have successfully reversed into vegetative state.
conor c
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Good stuff there nice and stable then
Farmer's Hat
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It would seem that way. They are going to be good pollinators
Farmer's Hat
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Here is a little update on the grow.
The two plants that I selected to keep as mothers as performing better than the rest.
There are two plants that appear SFV OG dominant. Those two plants incidentally flowered the latest. I will be really focused on breeding out this late flowering trait.
** I am going to upload flower pictures once a week, of the 2 females that I will continue to breed with.
Female #1. Deep purple flowers and haze like in structure. Trichome production is decent, but it definitely needs some work in that regard. I will improve the trichome production of this purple variant.
Seeds are developing nicely.
Female #2. Possessing all the traits ive been working on stabilizing. I would say its definitely sativa dominant. Trichome production is excellent. The trail of trichomes extend to some of really large fan leaves. Also, im surprised by the faint purple hue on the calyxes. Im not particularly attached to the color, but it might be a trait that I can stabilize with the purple male.
We had some warm sunny days and the girls are loving it. Im not ashamed to admit that ive been procrastinating on putting up the second net. Lol
The two plants that I selected to keep as mothers as performing better than the rest.
There are two plants that appear SFV OG dominant. Those two plants incidentally flowered the latest. I will be really focused on breeding out this late flowering trait.
** I am going to upload flower pictures once a week, of the 2 females that I will continue to breed with.
Female #1. Deep purple flowers and haze like in structure. Trichome production is decent, but it definitely needs some work in that regard. I will improve the trichome production of this purple variant.
Seeds are developing nicely.
Female #2. Possessing all the traits ive been working on stabilizing. I would say its definitely sativa dominant. Trichome production is excellent. The trail of trichomes extend to some of really large fan leaves. Also, im surprised by the faint purple hue on the calyxes. Im not particularly attached to the color, but it might be a trait that I can stabilize with the purple male.
We had some warm sunny days and the girls are loving it. Im not ashamed to admit that ive been procrastinating on putting up the second net. Lol
FmSwayze
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Beautiful garden!
Farmer's Hat
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Its looking good so far. I did have to put up the second net today. One of the plants tipped and fell overnight. I was able to lift her up without damaging her. Its a heavy yielder, for sure.
I got to sample the hashish. It was an energizing clean the house type of high. I freaking love it.
One of the Purple buds broke when I put up the net. Hollow stems are delicate. The girl that fell over is like freaking bamboo. Flexible and dense.
Lurpin
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What kind of taste did you get off the hash?
Farmer's Hat
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It was minty with a berry aftertaste.
Farmer's Hat
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I checked the first round of seeds, they are solid and grey. Approximately 2 more weeks before they are fully mature.
Farmer's Hat
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Here is quite little update on the cutting for male #3. Its still producing some pollen sacks. A little slow growing compared to the purple male, but then again both of the fathers were very different in size and vigor.
By the looks of it, both males should provide at least a dozen cuts once they fully reverse.
I took them out of the light box for photos.
Cheers
By the looks of it, both males should provide at least a dozen cuts once they fully reverse.
I took them out of the light box for photos.
Cheers
Farmer's Hat
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Updating pics and some info about the phenotypes.
Officially mother #2.
Purple Sativa Dominant pheno. Dark purple, fruity aroma. Doesn't resemble parents very much. I see some similarity in the flower structure to MTF but its not quite the same.
MTF dominant pheno. Fruity with hint of sour d.
SFV OG dominant pheno. Fruity bubblegum. Flowered late.
Officially mother #1. A unique fusion of genetics. Traits of both parents are present but it does not lean towards MTF or SFV. This plant has all the phenos ive been working on stabilizing. The purple/pink is new. Its my first time seeing it and I like it. My camera did its best to capture the colors.
All of the plants are still going strong and happy. No pest problems, no mold, nothing. Just strong healthy plants.
Below is pics of Brandywine. This plant smells incredibly sweet. It had a minor spider mite issue earlier on, but I took care of it. Hopefully the pest resistance is improved in the F1. What I especially like about this plant is that it flowered really early. Unfortunately flower development has slowed down compared to the other plants. It might be a little sensitive to colder temps. Hopefully she gets a second wind and starts stacking again.
Officially mother #2.
Purple Sativa Dominant pheno. Dark purple, fruity aroma. Doesn't resemble parents very much. I see some similarity in the flower structure to MTF but its not quite the same.
MTF dominant pheno. Fruity with hint of sour d.
SFV OG dominant pheno. Fruity bubblegum. Flowered late.
Officially mother #1. A unique fusion of genetics. Traits of both parents are present but it does not lean towards MTF or SFV. This plant has all the phenos ive been working on stabilizing. The purple/pink is new. Its my first time seeing it and I like it. My camera did its best to capture the colors.
All of the plants are still going strong and happy. No pest problems, no mold, nothing. Just strong healthy plants.
Below is pics of Brandywine. This plant smells incredibly sweet. It had a minor spider mite issue earlier on, but I took care of it. Hopefully the pest resistance is improved in the F1. What I especially like about this plant is that it flowered really early. Unfortunately flower development has slowed down compared to the other plants. It might be a little sensitive to colder temps. Hopefully she gets a second wind and starts stacking again.
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Farmer's Hat
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I spent a decent amount of time in the greenhouse today. Cleaning undergrowth that has started to die off, which is perfectly natural at this stage. I also top dressed some more bone meal and 4-4-4 pellets.
Ive been paying close attention to the plants that I want to keep breeding. Ive noticed something really interesting. There are two Valley ice plants that look very alike, except for the flower structure which is starting to become easier to distinguish. Ive noticed that one of those plants inherited the SFV OG flower structure. Its quite beautiful. Below are pictures of both the Valley Ice hybrid and the SFV OG. Notice the similarities in the short pistols and density.
Pic of Valley Ice #1
SFV OG
Now here is a picture of the plant I have decided to mother. It has a flower structure that is a mix of both parents. It doesn't look too similar to either parent, but both traits of the parents are clearly visible. The pistols are long just like the MTF mother. The density is fluffy, however, it is denser than the MTF mother. So density is in-between both SFV OG and MTF. The purple is the only thing that is kind of an anomaly at this point.
Poc of Valley ice #2
MTF
SFV OF
What are your thoughts? What do you notice?
Ive been paying close attention to the plants that I want to keep breeding. Ive noticed something really interesting. There are two Valley ice plants that look very alike, except for the flower structure which is starting to become easier to distinguish. Ive noticed that one of those plants inherited the SFV OG flower structure. Its quite beautiful. Below are pictures of both the Valley Ice hybrid and the SFV OG. Notice the similarities in the short pistols and density.
Pic of Valley Ice #1
SFV OG
Now here is a picture of the plant I have decided to mother. It has a flower structure that is a mix of both parents. It doesn't look too similar to either parent, but both traits of the parents are clearly visible. The pistols are long just like the MTF mother. The density is fluffy, however, it is denser than the MTF mother. So density is in-between both SFV OG and MTF. The purple is the only thing that is kind of an anomaly at this point.
Poc of Valley ice #2
MTF
SFV OF
What are your thoughts? What do you notice?
Farmer's Hat
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Below is a pic of the girl that has an SFV OG plant structure but MTF flower structure. Its pretty cool to see the genetics fuse this way.
I also want to include a pic of the runt. This plant has good trichome production but I can tell by the way the flowers are forming that it will be a low yielder. All of the colas look super larfy... Its disappointing.
On a side note, I recently saw a picture of a strain that had the most epic looking leaves. I thought it might have been caused by over fertilizing, but its not. Im pretty sure I want to breed a similar trait into the Valley Ice.
If you know of a strain that has this crazy leaf pheno, please let me know. I will be doing some research.
Cheers
I also want to include a pic of the runt. This plant has good trichome production but I can tell by the way the flowers are forming that it will be a low yielder. All of the colas look super larfy... Its disappointing.
On a side note, I recently saw a picture of a strain that had the most epic looking leaves. I thought it might have been caused by over fertilizing, but its not. Im pretty sure I want to breed a similar trait into the Valley Ice.
If you know of a strain that has this crazy leaf pheno, please let me know. I will be doing some research.
Cheers
Farmer's Hat
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