Growing Landrace indoor -- WHY? What's the Appeal??

[Trap Star]

Thanks for the reply...
I really went through a lot of threads on sativa growing to get the info I found.

I could tell how your caylx were swollen that you had a good formula going.

I'm just glad to see that I was on target with the
0-50-30...
It's not PGR so it's safer to use...
I plan on growing with PK spikes
Spiking my PPMs every 3 weeks of flower
For 14 weeks...
Then 2 final weeks of pure RO water.

Piff Coast Farms...
They have a key sativa that I am planning on testing my grow skills on.
I plan on that an a Malawi x Vietnamese x Afghani
See if I can breed the next Super Strain

 

[amneziaHaze]

Thats pretty much what I was going to say ^

I just got new hooks that save me even more height in my 6.5 ft tall tent. A nice light on the way in my 3x3x6 fan/filter top of tent and light only needs 12”. Viparspec.

When everythings where I want it to be and can take a break Id grow a golden tiger if I knew where to get it. And the like.

Learning more about cannabis history and how everythings the same these days. My current strains are 60% sativa? I just found out recently. No wonder they 3x their size at flip.

it has to be ace seeds

 

[Kayaganja]

I have this Congo for some years now X4 maybe I need to pop her or them since there are three

 

[Farmer's Hat]

When I ventured into growing sativas I studied 16 week plants. 11/13 light cycles ...topping
taking clones to finish instead of the original seed plant.
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Brilliant strategy. How long did you veg the clones?

 

[Trap Star]

Brilliant strategy. How long did you veg the clones?

30 days ...
15 to root
15 to stretch

It cut down on the major stretch...
I think you can get the same results with just topping though.

 

[Hook Daddy]

I grow sativas for the buzz I remember growing up. I don’t care how long they take, I just grow for me and friends. I like the more energetic, fun, laughing high. I have Ace’s Malawi and Golden Tiger going now, along with a C&C Puck. They are at 6 weeks, I hit them all on 2 branches with a male Malawi pollen. The GT acts very sativa, stretching about 6 times her height. The Malawi is looking very promising as well. I figure the Malawi will be done at about 14 weeks, the GT at about 17 weeks.

Here’s the Malawi





And the GT



And talk about thin slender leaves

 

[Kayaganja]

I grow sativas for the buzz I remember growing up. I don’t care how long they take, I just grow for me and friends. I like the more energetic, fun, laughing high. I have Ace’s Malawi and Golden Tiger going now, along with a C&C Puck. They are at 6 weeks, I hit them all on 2 branches with a male Malawi pollen. The GT acts very sativa, stretching about 6 times her height. The Malawi is looking very promising as well. I figure the Malawi will be done at about 14 weeks, the GT at about 17 weeks.

Here’s the Malawi

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And the GT

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And talk about thin slender leaves

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Am looking at that stretch if I put the Congo lady in a sip , it’s going to be flip in 3 weeks from seed

 

[jimbonorman]

Am looking at that stretch if I put the Congo lady in a sip , it’s going to be flip in 3 weeks from seed

That’s what Ace recommends with their pure sativas - 3 weeks from germ

 

[Kayaganja]

That’s what Ace recommends with their pure sativas - 3 weeks from germ

And she’s in the soil , point of no return , l run a music rental and dj on the side as well as working as a carpenter.so I don’t really have time to write much but will keep you informed. Thanks for the backup and info

 

[amneziaHaze]

I grow sativas for the buzz I remember growing up. I don’t care how long they take, I just grow for me and friends. I like the more energetic, fun, laughing high. I have Ace’s Malawi and Golden Tiger going now, along with a C&C Puck. They are at 6 weeks, I hit them all on 2 branches with a male Malawi pollen. The GT acts very sativa, stretching about 6 times her height. The Malawi is looking very promising as well. I figure the Malawi will be done at about 14 weeks, the GT at about 17 weeks.

Here’s the Malawi

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And the GT

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And talk about thin slender leaves

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it looks soo ugly and wild but i want it soo bad

 

[Hook Daddy]

Am looking at that stretch if I put the Congo lady in a sip , it’s going to be flip in 3 weeks from seed

Am looking at that stretch if I put the Congo lady in a sip , it’s going to be flip in 3 weeks from seed

I'm looking forward to watching the grow, I’ve been looking at Congo as a possible near future run so interested to see how it goes, best of luck.

 

[jimbonorman]

And she’s in the soil , point of no return , l run a music rental and dj on the side as well as working as a carpenter.so I don’t really have time to write much but will keep you informed. Thanks for the backup and info

Sick. Never ran a Congo but the Malawi was a beast and took over my tent. Should have flipped her earlier than I did. Keep us updated!

 

[TheWholeTruth]

@wiccan grows them right

Sativas are generally not grown properly indoors.

When I ventured into growing sativas I studied 16 week plants. 11/13 light cycles ...topping
taking clones to finish instead of the original seed plant.

Any an all tactics to get full robust bud structure.
That was the goal.
I'm sure there is a feed schedule that promotes faster finishing in sativas -- as some seem to shoot new pistils in week 7-8
I haven't grown enough to say exactly what nutes to pump to get lavish full BUD structure.
Versus the ultra "hairy air nuggs"

There has to be a secret nutes combo to get your sativas to LOCK tight & dense.
Beastie Bloom is a 0-50-30 ...that might help tame the airy bud structure.

You can use a type of crop stearing to grow sativas or sativa leaning plants, that meaning ones that havent had indica type genetics snuck in so ther is potentialy alot more indica than sativa, or have been worked already to sutable for indoors. Usualy you want to feed a mild feed throughout grow, some can take more nitrogen then others. But wen it comes to flowering its better i find to flower 10hrs light on and 14 off from swich to the end. Wen you swich the lights to flowering time you will have a good few weeks before seeing flower develpment. So depending on how much time or what the plant is you can start reducing nitogen back and start pushing the pk higher. To the point were were depending on what the strain is the nitrogen is reduced or its a very small amount by early to mid flower. Its a bit hard to explain on paper but wen you work with certain sativas youll get to know what works best.
Some will store alot of nitrogen in the grow stages, some you can carry on feeding the usual amounts abit longer in the stretch stages of flower. But once you get to know the plant, you can indoors gett them to stear towards stop putting its energy into leaf and structual size growth and start concentrating more so on the bud production. Ive seen quite a diffrences bettween a sativa finished flowering on 12/12 right the way through were they have been feed with quite abit of nitrogen all the way through. You tend to see more leaf on the plant with some areas of the plant start shoting out stem growth and fresh bud, or just keep pushing out white pistols. Were as if you can get the feed right and stear into pushing towards flower, get the flower light hours good with a good exchange of air they can come out looking alot better and easier to finish indoors.
I guess its not easy to explain with out seeing it.

 

[medidedicated]

Anyone ever press a land race sativa and get flower rosin or hash rosin? I intend to smoke it and give a lot away but that would be super cool. 100% sativa rosin.

My current strains are 60-65% sativa didnt even realize that till the other day. Its pretty balanced high indeed “I suppose.”

I used to notice its the 80-90% or 100% indicas that did it for me when I smoked. I guess Im venturing to the other side!

 

[medidedicated]

Beung 60% sativa and high hash yielders Id think sativas are capable of it even if its just a little. I had a not so impressive pheno of ww x skunk 1 from 710 genetics yield zero rosin.

As I look them up theyre more indica than sativa. I thought it was the indicas that had the hash rich heads. Let me know what you know!

Ive had 90-100% sativa yup confirmed I just looked it up. The store I got from says its 90 sativa. So sativas got to be capable of hash too.

 

[conor c]

Beung 60% sativa and high hash yielders Id think sativas are capable of it even if its just a little. I had a not so impressive pheno of ww x skunk 1 from 710 genetics yield zero rosin.

As I look them up theyre more indica than sativa. I thought it was the indicas that had the hash rich heads. Let me know what you know!

Ive had 90-100% sativa yup confirmed I just looked it up. The store I got from says its 90 sativa. So sativas got to be capable of hash too.

You can make hash from both alot of purer indicas are hashplants and purer sativas more for flower(ganja) however stuff like Lebanese or greek or Moroccan Indian/nepalese or even the big northern Afghani stuff can lean to the sativa side they still make good hash and are used traditionally for that reason it's selection for purpose that matters as much as genetics do

 

[medidedicated]

Yea thats why I made a thread looking for good smoke with everything being bred together these days. I listened to a breeders syndicate about how the indicas were bred with smoking weed and kind of messed that up a little.

Of course someone asked if it wasnt just my curing skills which I thought maybe. I just cured a strain I ran for a while but never got the harshness out. Being hash only I didnt care.

Well I have someone to give weed to now so I cured some and its much smoother but not quite like others. Others Ive smoked were super light like a malboro gold vs malboro red or black.

So hoping I can get a landrace which idk nothing about. Just seeing if it smokes smoother. How it smokes period. Sounds fun. I have a strain Im running again soon its smooth but hashy which is a different kind of hard.

A good kind I might add. The flavor must be super exclusive to what Im used to which I love when that happens. Then the high.. Its subjective but people swear by its effects even on a tolerance.

So yea some are for smoke, some for bho, rosin, bubble and flower rosin. All need to be bred for that or have enough of those genes in them.

 

[Kayaganja]

You can use a type of crop stearing to grow sativas or sativa leaning plants, that meaning ones that havent had indica type genetics snuck in so ther is potentialy alot more indica than sativa, or have been worked already to sutable for indoors. Usualy you want to feed a mild feed throughout grow, some can take more nitrogen then others. But wen it comes to flowering its better i find to flower 10hrs light on and 14 off from swich to the end. Wen you swich the lights to flowering time you will have a good few weeks before seeing flower develpment. So depending on how much time or what the plant is you can start reducing nitogen back and start pushing the pk higher. To the point were were depending on what the strain is the nitrogen is reduced or its a very small amount by early to mid flower. Its a bit hard to explain on paper but wen you work with certain sativas youll get to know what works best.
Some will store alot of nitrogen in the grow stages, some you can carry on feeding the usual amounts abit longer in the stretch stages of flower. But once you get to know the plant, you can indoors gett them to stear towards stop putting its energy into leaf and structual size growth and start concentrating more so on the bud production. Ive seen quite a diffrences bettween a sativa finished flowering on 12/12 right the way through were they have been feed with quite abit of nitrogen all the way through. You tend to see more leaf on the plant with some areas of the plant start shoting out stem growth and fresh bud, or just keep pushing out white pistols. Were as if you can get the feed right and stear into pushing towards flower, get the flower light hours good with a good exchange of air they can come out looking alot better and easier to finish indoors.
I guess its not easy to explain with out seeing it.

lol so I take I might or might not run into some issues alone the way after , almost two years of cooking the soil seems prefect, I’ve had these autos to test soil , so far with the games , I’ve played with them , also to test how much shit autos can take only water now they’ve gone into flower and all looks good ,
I’ve popped a Congo seed and Jack Herer from greenhouse, cause I want to see what the difference will be in grow and health, so I know what to do next time . Jack went in the soil two days after Congo , let’s see who shows up first and how the grow goes am not writing a diary but will keep you all updated here and on the sip thread

 

[jimbonorman]

lol so I take I might or might not run into some issues alone the way after , almost two years of cooking the soil seems prefect, I’ve had these autos to test soil , so far with the games , I’ve played with them , also to test how much shit autos can take only water now they’ve gone into flower and all looks good ,
I’ve popped a Congo seed and Jack Herer from greenhouse, cause I want to see what the difference will be in grow and health, so I know what to do next time . Jack went in the soil two days after Congo , let’s see who shows up first and how the grow goes am not writing a diary but will keep you all updated here and on the sip thread

What do you do to cook your soil? I reckon that might be a loaded question so if there's a known method/formula on the web you want to point me to feel free to. I want to start reusing my soil but don't know what I need to do. I suppose I can simply re-amend, at the very least, but I'm wondering about the cooking...

 

[formularacer]

Yea thats why I made a thread looking for good smoke with everything being bred together these days. I listened to a breeders syndicate about how the indicas were bred with smoking weed and kind of messed that up a little.

Of course someone asked if it wasnt just my curing skills which I thought maybe. I just cured a strain I ran for a while but never got the harshness out. Being hash only I didnt care.

Well I have someone to give weed to now so I cured some and its much smoother but not quite like others. Others Ive smoked were super light like a malboro gold vs malboro red or black.

So hoping I can get a landrace which idk nothing about. Just seeing if it smokes smoother. How it smokes period. Sounds fun. I have a strain Im running again soon its smooth but hashy which is a different kind of hard.

A good kind I might add. The flavor must be super exclusive to what Im used to which I love when that happens. Then the high.. Its subjective but people swear by its effects even on a tolerance.

So yea some are for smoke, some for bho, rosin, bubble and flower rosin. All need to be bred for that or have enough of those genes in them.

I am growing 3 landrace outside Panama Red, Durban Poison and Vietnam Black all seem to have small buds compared to the AK47 and Sour Diesel. My impression is landrace will be a harsher smoke than the current hot strains. But the grow rate is wild, PR is over 13 feet tall DP is over 9 VB was started late and only 7. Part of getting a good smoke along with the curing is the medium your growing in. Once I harvest I start prepping the soil for next year, I will put ten bags of composted manure on hill in the fall will add another 15 to 20 in spring. Also bury some fish in the hill along with additions of crab and lobster shells.
When I dry small quantities I use the paper bag method, when I dry an 8 foot tall bush I use a drying rack and the shed. The large quantity drying the humidity from the total volume helps to slow the process in the shed.
I have shared my product with several people and have had no complaints and I have found it all enjoyable to burn.