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medidedicated

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They could be mixed in the rooms and test them even if nothing in them so you know whats on that grow circuit then you can use power point inserts to blank off outlets from accidwntally overloading circuit as it may be someone else or a stonners memory ;)
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So Id say that leaves off two outlets that I wasnt able to test. Is there any rough estimate that can be made based off that? Can they be less than 15a each?
 

Absorber

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Ok so my entire room, dead, bedroom beside it the lights are out but the outlet still works but theres on outlet of 2 I think that I cannot reach.

Everything else worked, hallway outlet, bathrooms, living room, everything else.

Nothing high powered in that other bedroom less than 100w Id guess. Just a bedroom.
Lights going out is a sign someone has played around with the electrical and mixed the circuits up a bit which means guage of wiring on lights might not be the recomended guage of circuit they are on they may have reduced the size back to 1mm² for lights, meaning i would get that checked before upgrading breaker to to a 20amp one .
If you are sure there is nothing else running off that circuit .
Then use this Ohm's Law calculator to work out your loads.
 

Absorber

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So Id say that leaves off two outlets that I wasnt able to test. Is there any rough estimate that can be made based off that? Can they be less than 15a each?
If theres nothing plugged into those theres no extra load from them so just disregard them ,but dont use them in the future you dont need the extra load and hassles
 

medidedicated

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Lights going out is a sign someone has played around with the electrical and mixed the circuits up a bit which means guage of wiring on lights might not be the recomended guage of circuit they are on they may have reduced the size back to 1mm² for lights, meaning i would get that checked before upgrading breaker to to a 20amp one .
If you are sure there is nothing else running off that circuit .
Then use this Ohm's Law calculator to work out your loads.
I checked it out but not sure how to fill it in, but Isnt that the law that no more than 80% of the circuit should be used?

I estimate I use about 2300w but not all at once. Just tried again, not sure how to calculate this.

There are 3 outlets in my room. Would you be nervous if you were me or does this sound like Im likely alright? Even if its too random to be able to answer.

Heck I want to make a workshop hire electricians and plumbers make it a grow shop and this is more reason to do so.

Could I be running risky and not even know it? I thought simply the fuse blows, outlet smokes. Could it run normal to the untrained eye and still be a hazard?

These are just things I never heard of with my size grow but it did just get bigger. Me saying I never heard of something dont mean much though.

Jeez this hobby gets me beating myself up often like no other.
 

Absorber

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I checked it out but not sure how to fill it in, but Isnt that the law that no more than 80% of the circuit should be used?

I estimate I use about 2300w but not all at once. Just tried again, not sure how to calculate this.

There are 3 outlets in my room. Would you be nervous if you were me or does this sound like Im likely alright? Even if its too random to be able to answer.

Heck I want to make a workshop hire electricians and plumbers make it a grow shop and this is more reason to do so.

Could I be running risky and not even know it? I thought simply the fuse blows, outlet smokes. Could it run normal to the untrained eye and still be a hazard?

These are just things I never heard of with my size grow but it did just get bigger. Me saying I never heard of something dont mean much though.

Jeez this hobby gets me beating myself up often like no other.
Are you on 240v or 110v .
The breaker is there to stop you overloading and keep things safe on that regard.
If it was the vaccum cleaner that tripped it you may have been fine except for the start up current of the motor in the vaccum may have just been enough to push it over the limit .you could run a lead in from a different circuit to run vaccum .
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I entered 110in the volts and 2300 in the watts it calculates the rest .if your volage is 240v just change that figure
 

medidedicated

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Are you on 240v or 110v .
The breaker is there to stop you overloading and keep things safe on that regard.
If it was the vaccum cleaner that tripped it you may have been fine except for the start up current of the motor in the vaccum may have just been enough to push it over the limit .you could run a lead in from a different circuit to run vaccum .
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I entered 110in the volts and 2300 in the watts it calculates the rest .if your volage is 240v just change that figure
Thanks a lot for the help its a lifesaver when being worn so thin. What am I looking for though, what values tell me how much I have to work with? Are you asking what volt the outlets are? They should be 120v or 110.
 

Absorber

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All your electrical items will have a label that says the voltage and wattage even current sometimes on it.
A list of the items in grow with wattage or current listed ans i can help you dial in what might be the issue .pluss i need to know the voltagw in your country 240/110 volts
 

Absorber

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Thanks a lot for the help its a lifesaver when being worn so thin. What am I looking for though, what values tell me how much I have to work with? Are you asking what volt the outlets are? They should be 120v or 110.
Ok with a voltage of 110/120 you will pull 2 times the current of a 240v country ( for those watching) so a list of whats in room and i can calculate it for you ,also whats on all the time and whats on timer.
And i will give you your current draw
 
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medidedicated

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All your electrical items will have a label that says the voltage and wattage even current sometimes on it.
A list of the items in grow with wattage or current listed ans i can help you dial in what might be the issue .pluss i need to know the voltagw in your country 240/110 volts
Ok Im in the US and just looked up it said 120v is most standard. I thought you meant for ex my gen has 220v outlets.

600w in 4 mars hydro ts1000 320w soon to be viparspectra when I buy it, 75w vortex inline fan, two soon to be 6” ac infinity inline fans 38w.

3 little giant condensate pumps 70w each. two 100w water pumps, two 24w pumps and another but smaller pump cant be more than 24w.

28w pump to pump runoff. dtw coco. About 500w of typicall bedroom stuff like tv console etc. A cabinet with 50w strip lights and 50w led 5w pc fan. A mini tent with 28w ac infinity bar lights 5w pc fan.

380w dehuey 28w pedestal fan. Two 37w booster fans. Wow thats pretty much everything, five 14w clip fans.

Id love to know if Im good and how much more it can handle if I want more stuff.
 

medidedicated

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The 5 in the picture is the resistive load @ 110v pulling 20.9 amps
Yea Im not sure what that means, could you dumb it down a bit for me Im a little slow haha. Not to be so mean to myself but I tried looking it up.

If its too complicated just what ever you can explain as simple as possible what I should do please. I really appreciate the help!
 

medidedicated

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All those lights are on 12/12 light cycle the smaller ligjts on 24/7 but the mini tent 28w lights are 12/12. Pumps on timers run quickly. Every 3 hrs pumps go off.

Wow this is such a detailed footprint of everything its kinda awkward but I rather ask than just assume shit and get into serious trouble.
 

Absorber

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Yea Im not sure what that means, could you dumb it down a bit for me Im a little slow haha. Not to be so mean to myself but I tried looking it up.

If its too complicated just what ever you can explain as simple as possible what I should do please. I really appreciate the help!
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Power is explained easier using water and a pipe as an example .
Volts is like the pressure of the water
Current would be like size of pipe
And Resistance is like the restriction placed on the pipe .
The resistances in your applialances are the windings of motors and the electrical circuits .
 

Absorber

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"600w in 4 mars hydro ts1000 320w soon to be viparspectra when I buy it, 75w vortex inline fan, two soon to be 6” ac infinity inline fans 38w."

Is that a quantity of four 600w lights plus 100w mars light and 75w fan (currently) and swapped to two 38w fans in future ?
 

medidedicated

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"600w in 4 mars hydro ts1000 320w soon to be viparspectra when I buy it, 75w vortex inline fan, two soon to be 6” ac infinity inline fans 38w."

Is that a quantity of four 600w lights plus 100w mars light and 75w fan (currently) and swapped to two 38w fans in future ?
4 mars hydro lights that are 150w each making 600w. Im upgrading in a few weeks to get a 320w viparspectra light which will all be on 12/12. I have a 75w fan and will soon have a couple more fans that are 38w each.
 

medidedicated

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When I say upgrade I mean all together thats what I intend to have up and running. What I have left to use will be nice to know for future up grades unless already overdoing it.

So those lights will be on 12/12 as well as the mini 28w leds but the cabinet 100w will be on 24/7.
 

medidedicated

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I love when I get through things though and everyones help just makes it work. Idk where Id be with my grow with out RIU.

Before I forget, It may not seem like much now but if all goes well I could save up and take breaks. Also or just have enough for when things go bad. So Id be saving more than I estimate now.

As for the generator, one lost cycle and fresh round of groceries would cost me $900 if to buy from store again or quit. $200 in food cause its often long enough to spoil.

So $1100 pretty much potentially lost so that inspires me to keep figuring it out.
 

Absorber

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Ok you are using a lot of power .
Heres what i got from what you listed
Without new 320w light
2368w roughly =19.8amps

Heres same figure without new light or the bedroom stuff (tv, console etc 650w)
1718w = 14.4 amps

All those figures are close estimates and with everything on .
You might want to think about streamlining things where you can or running another extention lead in thats rated 15amp at least ,plugged into another circuit thats not loaded up already .



And here's figure with new light and no bedromm stuff
2038w = 16.98 amps
 
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