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Jonp1689

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Hey family just looking for some more feed back. I’m getting a little worried. This is only my second grow but to me my plants look sad. Just looking for any help on what I need to do more of or less of.
currently have 4 in home made Dwc buckets and 1 in fox farms ocean forest. Currently on day 46 of flower IMG_1676.jpegIMG_1677.jpegIMG_1678.jpegIMG_1679.jpegIMG_1680.jpegIMG_1681.jpegIMG_1682.jpegIMG_1683.jpegIMG_1684.jpegIMG_1676.jpegIMG_1677.jpegIMG_1678.jpegIMG_1679.jpegIMG_1680.jpegIMG_1681.jpegIMG_1682.jpegIMG_1683.jpegIMG_1684.jpegIMG_1685.jpeg
 

Phytoplankton

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Hey family just looking for some more feed back. I’m getting a little worried. This is only my second grow but to me my plants look sad. Just looking for any help on what I need to do more of or less of.
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Looks like a P or K issue, can't say if it's too much or too little. I can tell you you've got a lot on N in them, the leaves are very dark green, so it could be the N, P, and K are antagonizing each other. Hopefully we'll get some more opinions.
 

VaSmile

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Take my opinion with a grain a salt as i am amature af and an idiot.

You can probably dial your feed back a bit. The discoloring at the edges of the leafs is normaly signs of over feeding. Same with the glocey waxy bubbled look in pic 4.

I see ypu got a net up but are not making any use of it. Fold some of those tallet tops under it so you have a more even canopy those taller colas seem like they are getting quite close to your light.

At this point in the grow your plants need relitively little N. If your using a 3 part bottle feed i would 1/2 or 1/4 your "grow" additive
 

Jonp1689

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Take my opinion with a grain a salt as i am amature af and an idiot.

You can probably dial your feed back a bit. The discoloring at the edges of the leafs is normaly signs of over feeding. Same with the glocey waxy bubbled look in pic 4.

I see ypu got a net up but are not making any use of it. Fold some of those tallet tops under it so you have a more even canopy those taller colas seem like they are getting quite close to your light.

At this point in the grow your plants need relitively little N. If your using a 3 part bottle feed i would 1/2 or 1/4 your "grow" additive
I’m using the second net just Incase the buds get heavy and start flopping over
 

bursto

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he's using a ppm meter and the ph test dye kit when mixing all those nutes together right? making sure not to go over recomender levels

4 ml per ltr = 40ml per 10l, could be that 40mls is too much when using all the additives, if you giving a plant high value nutes and with no idea on ph or ec so early in flower is a bad idea
 
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compassionateExotic

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these are what I’m currently using at 4 mL per liter
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I’ve never used this brand but 90% liquid I’ve def seen a duplicate issue with these makers telling you to use 2x+ what plants really need for profit, just because they in “testing” supplied a plant such dosages does not mean every one will exp if plants aren’t gear for it or enviromental djustmentd like co2 are in play. If it was me I would do .5ml-1ml for a week, than ump it to 1-2ml. Remove obvious bottom-mid range leafs and any leaf shading a bud .

than for future grows buy dry ferts or better price nute. These liquid and cost per gallon and what they are re straight cost killers and u could be saving it for m y things from IPM to real nute boosters and also environmental gains like sealed room or color led’s and misc
 

bursto

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Should I just use water on my next fill up?
just halve or say 2/3rds (say 30mls per10l) of what you putting in there now, thats if you cant afford a ppm meter att, and how do you balance the ph get the cheapo ph dye kit and some ph up n down, i dont see those bottles in the photo

you also need to know the ppm or ec of the water you using (Tap or rain?) it plays a big part in balancing ph and getting correct ec for stage of growth. i tell folks to first ph and ec test their plain water, then get a permenant marker and add each nute to water separately noticing if it has a ph up or down effect on the original water tested, then on each bottle write up or down, so you know... oh, this A n B bloom reduces ph, oh this pk 13.14 raises ph, seaweed additives = ph up, mpk = ph down etc etc...

Then as you do each grow you will be able to balance ph perfectly with minimal use of ph up or down acids

i havent needed ph up or down for couple years now, so just get the dye first and see if you can get it balanced around 5.5-6.0

you need a bluelab truncheon as well
 
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Jonp1689

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Too much food in general and too much nitrogen in the ratio for this stage of flowering, sort out the nitrogen and maybe they wouldn't have burned around the edges, the edge and tip burn is cos of too much total salts, the dark clawing leaves is cos of too much nitrogen. Hope this helps
Thank you. So it’s not too late to save?
 

Blue brother

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Thank you. So it’s not too late to save?
No of course not, it sounds like you've already limited expectations, it's ur first run, it hasn't went perfect, the outcome won't be perfect, but you'll still get something, I've seen much worse, drop out the heavy nitrogen feed in ur regimen totally now, keep everything else at the same dosage it's at now, you could quite easily do more damage by cutting everything else out right now, just cutting out the heavy nitrogen fert should be enough to drop the strength of solution enough for the plant to not burn in the future.
 

Jonp1689

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No of course not, it sounds like you've already limited expectations, it's ur first run, it hasn't went perfect, the outcome won't be perfect, but you'll still get something, I've seen much worse, drop out the heavy nitrogen feed in ur regimen totally now, keep everything else at the same dosage it's at now, you could quite easily do more damage by cutting everything else out right now, just cutting out the heavy nitrogen fert should be enough to drop the strength of solution enough for the plant to not burn in the future.
I’m not sure as to which to cut down on
 

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Fishmon

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I've used this nute lineup. I settled at 1/2 recommended dosage for best results. Also was doing 2 feeds to 1 water to runoff. Don't use anymore but got decent results. Also I tried their jungle juice line with similar results. The jj line is way cheaper and is sans ph perfect technology. I preferred being able to dial in ph myself.
 
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