Can Your Lights Be Too Bright?

Oldguyrealy

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I have 700W LED on the girls I don't know what wattage I'm running.

But I turned them up just off Bloom because they started Blooming.

Well started burning so I turned it down a notch.

I have 3 Autos and 2 Photos in 4X4 Tent. My mix of soil. Using Pro Mix Fertilizer.

Game plan is to cut Northern Lights Autos then flip Girl Scout Cookies Photos.

Leave the light like it is.
 

F_T_P!

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Yes they can I downloaded a ppfd meter on my phone not as accurate as a meter but will give you a general idea of the light your plants are receiving
Even if it is not 100% accurate it gives you guide posts to work off of, I think LEDs are hit or miss without a way to measure the light.
 

Delps8

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With autos you can generally go a bit easier with light than on photoperiods.
As far as I know, autos and photos will both grow in light levels as low as 64µmol. I've found one reference to that on the internet and it's also in the Chandra paper, where the photosynthesis curve intercepts the X axis looks to be about 64µmol ("looks to be about" - how's that for sciencing?!)

Crop yield and crop quality increase as light levels increase, up to the light saturation point, so there's no reason for the plant to not be given "lotsa light".

At the high end of the scale, I've grown photos at 1000-1050 and photos at 1100-1150. My autos were my earlier grows and I didn't have VPD dialed in as well as I did for my photo grows. All told, autos and photos are cannabis and cannabis is a light whore loves light so, if a grow is in good shape, the plant will probably be able to handle as much light as a grower is willing to give it.
 

Delps8

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The relationship between increasing DLI and yield is almost linear. In his videos of earlier this year, Mitch Westmoreland shared some of the info about the research that he's done as a PhD candidate under Bruce Bugbee. One nugget that he provided was that cannabis yield can be estimated as 0.2 to 0.3 gm of flower for each mol of light that the plant has received over its lifetime.

I measure PPFD pretty much every day and sample one point for seedling but up to 20± points when a large plant is in flower so I could add up the number of mols and estimate my yield. But I don't and I won't because…

Because all PPFD/DLI tells me is how much light has fallen on my plant. What matters is how much light my plants can use.

That's a blinding flash of the obvious from someone who spent $600 on an Apogee three years ago.

Again, the number on the meter isn't an end in itself. Instead, it's a means to an end.

The goal is to get as much light on your plants as they can handle. If you're only able to get 600µmol on your grow, that tells you that you've got a problem with your grow because your plants should be able to handle at least 800µmol. But unless you're stuck at those levels, the number isn't very important.

The goal though is to get as much light on your plants as they can handle because light is the only way plants can make food and because, all other tings being equal and as long as the plant is able to use the light you're giving it, a plant getting more light will result in a larger crop and a higher quality crop.
 

Oldguyrealy

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Girl Scout Cookies photo, three and half self watering pot, Updayday LED 700W. Oh two and half months old getting ready to flip.

One plant acts like it was getting too bright a light. Leaves curling.

I turned the light down and my Son moved the plants around
 

IGTHY

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I have 700W LED on the girls I don't know what wattage I'm running.

But I turned them up just off Bloom because they started Blooming.

Well started burning so I turned it down a notch.

I have 3 Autos and 2 Photos in 4X4 Tent. My mix of soil. Using Pro Mix Fertilizer.

Game plan is to cut Northern Lights Autos then flip Girl Scout Cookies Photos.

Leave the light like it is.
Yes and no. Depends on light sensitivity with your plants. Some plants are hogs on light, nutes, space, water,etc. Then there are those totally opposite. I know there's publications on turning your lights up during bloom, but I say if my plants are developing well at 70 percent then there's no need for the max at 100 percent. Sometimes less is definitely more at times. Another point is to make sure your light is far enough from the tops of your buds. I would advise to place my hand palm down under light between the top of plant and light for a few seconds. If the light is uncomfortable on your hand pull light up some away from plant or lower light strength. You have to experiment and pay attention to the plants response to attention. They are living organisms too just like us. Hope something I've said helps.
 
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