What to use to deter caterpillars eating my outdoor grow
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waterproof808
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Dipel DF
alright ill order that in the mean time i set up a foliar spray using aloe vera is it safe to spray on buds or no?
sprinkled some de around the soil hoping that would help but it didnt so was gonna try using aloe vera but didnt know if its safe to spray on my buds i dont want any unwanted taste or weed odor
compassionateExotic
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Diphel PRO DF , I would mix in a organic wetting agent like yucca extract along with it
can be mixed with alot of stuff np, read manuals of other existing products to see if u can mix in other stuff . I would spray low rate in start of season and when u know pressure changes in ur zone raise the rate to mid-highest and also increase spraying cycles from 7-14 days preventative to when needed in pest pressure every 3-4 days and also after rain storms .
like many pest or molds, I would scout exp when they are known a issue daily and even bend the branches/buds when doing so cause it def can prevent some major obvious damage and lower chances of way population becoming more of a issue .
amazon nd other wholesalers has a better price, but here’s general info on yucca extract. Wetting agent 1/32-1/16th teaspoon per gallon
www.npkraw.com
can be mixed with alot of stuff np, read manuals of other existing products to see if u can mix in other stuff . I would spray low rate in start of season and when u know pressure changes in ur zone raise the rate to mid-highest and also increase spraying cycles from 7-14 days preventative to when needed in pest pressure every 3-4 days and also after rain storms .
like many pest or molds, I would scout exp when they are known a issue daily and even bend the branches/buds when doing so cause it def can prevent some major obvious damage and lower chances of way population becoming more of a issue .
amazon nd other wholesalers has a better price, but here’s general info on yucca extract. Wetting agent 1/32-1/16th teaspoon per gallon
RAW YUCCA
RAW YUCCA: surfactant RAW Yucca is made from 100% natural yucca extract from the plant Yucca Schidigera. It can be used as wetting agent for nutrient solutions and foliar sprays and is great for flushing excess salts from the root Zone. When used on soils, it helps water and nutrients penetrate...
www.npkraw.com
can alore vera be used in the mean time? a diluted sprayDiphel PRO DF , I would mix in a organic wetting agent like yucca extract along with it
can be mixed with alot of stuff np, read manuals of other existing products to see if u can mix in other stuff . I would spray low rate in start of season and when u know pressure changes in ur zone raise the rate to mid-highest and also increase spraying cycles from 7-14 days preventative to when needed in pest pressure every 3-4 days and also after rain storms .
like many pest or molds, I would scout exp when they are known a issue daily and even bend the branches/buds when doing so cause it def can prevent some major obvious damage and lower chances of way population becoming more of a issue .
amazon nd other wholesalers has a better price, but here’s general info on yucca extract. Wetting agent 1/32-1/16th teaspoon per gallon
RAW YUCCA
RAW YUCCA: surfactant RAW Yucca is made from 100% natural yucca extract from the plant Yucca Schidigera. It can be used as wetting agent for nutrient solutions and foliar sprays and is great for flushing excess salts from the root Zone. When used on soils, it helps water and nutrients penetrate...
compassionateExotic
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Sure, but it’s not gonnea kill ur caterpillars if the pest populations exist. I would use that for ur wetting agent with ur foliars vs buying yucca if you got enough aloe for whole season . Build a soil has a 200x extract of aloe I used to use, very beneficial and great wetting agent
How to Use Aloe in the Garden (And Why You Absolutely Should)
Learn how to use Aloe Vera (Aloe barbadensis) extract powder to build plant resistances, reduce plant stress and improve root development. It is more commonly known that Aloe Vera contains many human health benefits, but what is less known is the vast benefits it provides to its plant brothers...
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Certified Organic 200x Aloe Vera Powder Flakes
Enhance wellness with our Organic 200x Aloe Vera Powder Flakes, perfect for skin, pets, and plants. Mix 1 tsp with water for a pure aloe juice or 1/4 cup per gallon for feeding plants. One ounce yields about 25 gallons, offering a sustainable, versatile solution for healthful living.
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Yea thanks i ordered Diphel PRO DF been picking them off got all of them just want something to prevent them while im waiting gonna try the aloe vera got some aloe vera plantsSure, but it’s not gonnea kill ur caterpillars if the pest populations exist. I would use that for ur wetting agent with ur foliars vs buying yucca if you got enough aloe for whole season . Build a soil has a 200x extract of aloe I used to use, very beneficial and great wetting agent
How to Use Aloe in the Garden (And Why You Absolutely Should)
Learn how to use Aloe Vera (Aloe barbadensis) extract powder to build plant resistances, reduce plant stress and improve root development. It is more commonly known that Aloe Vera contains many human health benefits, but what is less known is the vast benefits it provides to its plant brothers...
Certified Organic 200x Aloe Vera Powder Flakes
Enhance wellness with our Organic 200x Aloe Vera Powder Flakes, perfect for skin, pets, and plants. Mix 1 tsp with water for a pure aloe juice or 1/4 cup per gallon for feeding plants. One ounce yields about 25 gallons, offering a sustainable, versatile solution for healthful living.buildasoil.com
Rufus T. Firefly
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Bacillus thuringiensis
This is a good way to kill them without putting toxic on your plants.
formularacer
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I am testing button quail for bug control. I regularly dose my plants with ladybugs, have several praying mantis egg sacks that have hatched.
Will i have to do a bud wash once i harvest or no?
That's up to you. I personally stop spraying everything a week before harvest. They claim that you can spray right up till the day of harvest, though.
HandyGringo
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You always do when you grow outside, regardless of using BT.
It would be best if you searched for the name "Bacillus thuringiensis EU buy" and look at the options. I found one in my own country that was pretty cheap. But all brands will have different names. BT is just the active ingredient.
Here's the first result on the Google search, seems like a decent option if you can't find one in your own country.
BactoSpeine DF, 50 g, Nufarm insecticide, Bacillus thuringiensis | Nexles Europe
BactoSpeine DF, 50 g is a Nufarm insecticide with Bacillus thuringiensis, has no effect on bees and is Suitable for bio crops, against caterpillars, horse-chestnut leaf miner, winter moth. Buy it online from Nexles Europe.
www.nexles.com
Bactospeine DF, 500 g, Nufarm insecticide, Bacillus thuringiensis | Nexles Europe
Bactospeine DF, 500 g is a Nufarm insecticide with Bacillus thuringiensis, has no effect on bees and is Suitable for bio crops, against caterpillars, fruit worms, horse-chestnut leaf miner, winter moth. Buy it online from Nexles Europe.
www.nexles.com
Mr. Roy O
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Ordered it immediately. My plants probably start to flower in few weeks so I have to do it quickly.You always do when you grow outside, regardless of using BT.
It would be best if you searched for the name "Bacillus thuringiensis EU buy" and look at the options. I found one in my own country that was pretty cheap. But all brands will have different names. BT is just the active ingredient.
Here's the first result on the Google search, seems like a decent option if you can't find one in your own country.
BactoSpeine DF, 50 g, Nufarm insecticide, Bacillus thuringiensis | Nexles Europe
BactoSpeine DF, 50 g is a Nufarm insecticide with Bacillus thuringiensis, has no effect on bees and is Suitable for bio crops, against caterpillars, horse-chestnut leaf miner, winter moth. Buy it online from Nexles Europe.
Bactospeine DF, 500 g, Nufarm insecticide, Bacillus thuringiensis | Nexles Europe
Bactospeine DF, 500 g is a Nufarm insecticide with Bacillus thuringiensis, has no effect on bees and is Suitable for bio crops, against caterpillars, fruit worms, horse-chestnut leaf miner, winter moth. Buy it online from Nexles Europe.
As I can read it's ok to use it untill last two weeks of flower without it affecting taste and smell, right?
HandyGringo
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I've heard you can use it up to flower without any change in taste or smell. I'm honestly not sure. I keep finding conflicting information.
https://www.rollitup.org/t/how-late-into-flowering-can-you-use-bt.381246/ - As they say, up until flower is fine. But you don't really need to, due to the life cycle of the caterpillars you don't actually need to spray past 2 weeks before harvest, since they don't mature fast enough to cause damage. But I'm going to be spraying up until a week before harvest myself. And remember to wash your buds when you harvest. Important outdoors, lots of shit on outdoor plants, dead bugs, dirt, dust, birdshit, insect shit, etc.
By the way, make sure you use a good sprayer, that gives you a decent mist, or you will use way more water and BT than you need. Something like this
I use something like that. I use roughly 100ml of water per plant. Just so you know how little you need. Just follow the instructions that come with the BT.
Don't use something like this:
Will not give you a good mist, will tire out your fingers, you'll use way more water etc.
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HandyGringo
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I see you're also looking for something else to deal with other bugs. I use something called Neudosan, it's potassium fatty acids, it's harmful to insects but they're not harmful to your buds. It's used the same way as BT. Mix with water, spray your plants thoroughly. I do BT on Mondays and Neudosan on Fridays, preventively.
Neudosan Fruit & Vegetables, pest-free
Sucking insects on pome, stone and soft fruits are a thing of the past with Neudosan Fruit & Vegetables, this miracle product from Neudorff.
Is an example. There's many different brands and products, just search for Neudosan. Because you don't want to spray Neem in flower. And we can't get Spinosad in Europe sadly.