Week 5 of flowering - One plant Leaves around buds dying

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Ottoking94

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Hey guys

So I’m finishing week 5 of flowering and one my girls is drying way faster than others one.

Should I remove the dying leaves or leave them ?
 
MAD.SCIENTIST

MAD.SCIENTIST

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It looks like insect damage on the leaves (thankfully not spidermite).
I would just leave them for now, and wait for those leaves to die and go dry before removing (or maybe just remove the worst damaged leaves that aren't going to be doing much photosynthesis).
Looks like you have a bit longer to go until they are ready to harvest
 
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Ottoking94

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hazyswayze said:
Looks like you had some drying back and they look hungry. What are you growing in. Maybe have some lockout going on there.
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Soil
Fox farm ocean forest mix with amendments like extra bat guano, kelp meal, earth worm casting.
The first few two weeks I actually had some burn but it all got stable the 3rd week. Do you see any insect damage? I don’t have a single but in my grow room.
Right now I’m feeding AN bloom, Cha-Ching and a bit of kelp. Last week it was Beastie Blooms with AN BLOOM, cal mag and kelp.
 
Week4@inCharge

Week4@inCharge

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Ottoking94 said:
Soil
Fox farm ocean forest mix with amendments like extra bat guano, kelp meal, earth worm casting.
The first few two weeks I actually had some burn but it all got stable the 3rd week. Do you see any insect damage? I don’t have a single but in my grow room.
Right now I’m feeding AN bloom, Cha-Ching and a bit of kelp. Last week it was Beastie Blooms with AN BLOOM, cal mag and kelp.
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It's always in flower when the truth comes out.. I've seen this with a few grows of mine and it doesn't get better. There's an imbalance somewhere and maybe a lockout. I'd check the soils pH and if it's really low (than normal) it's usually a sign of lockout. If the pH is good...Feed Da BEAST.
 
driver77

driver77

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You should only use Cha Ching in the last couple weeks of flower. Stuff is 9-50-10 and will cause fan leaves to do exactly what yours are doing. Also not sure what levels you are dosing all those nutes at but too much left over nutes in soil cause ph problems....my guess is your soil ph is low from it. The fix at this point is to cut back on nutes for a while and bring her home....appears to only be fan leaves effected so far. Throwing nutes at it to try and fix will only make it worse. Pull the worst ones off and keep it moving...looks like your going to get some nice nugs out of it.
 
Budzbuddha

Budzbuddha

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Hate to say it - but it was from your hand.

Throwing all kinds of ingredients into one plant.

“ Right now I’m feeding AN bloom, Cha-Ching and a bit of kelp. Last week it was Beastie Blooms with AN BLOOM, cal mag and kelp. “

All of that needs time to break down ( usually over a week or so ) but the following week you dump more on it.

Bottom line - the issues come from antagonism between all of the elements stepping on each other.
Too hard to determine which one thing is causing the majority of problems since there is so much plus what was added as dry nutes. PH ( soil ) is probably out if whack - salt buildup etc.

Normally i would chime in with a much simpler approach especially with Ocean Forest but too many components have been introduced to the medium.

Next time - simplify things.
Ocean Forest on water alone for a few weeks then top dress more fresh FFOF to container and water that in.

Zero need for bat guano / ch ching / different nute lines trying to compete.
 
Fatjoe

Fatjoe

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Looks real close if not locked out. Mag and cal def moved in. Kinda futile to fight it now.
At this point I'd just feed the bud till finish.

Like mentioned above. Mixing nutrients n things is fun and ya think your just helping the plant....but you don't see the trainwreck coming.

These look in late flower. Normal to see N bleed out. It happens to us all at times. Maybe watch for early signs and catch it early. Nice plants man. Good job.
 
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Ottoking94

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Fatjoe said:
Looks real close if not locked out. Mag and cal def moved in. Kinda futile to fight it now.
At this point I'd just feed the bud till finish.

Like mentioned above. Mixing nutrients n things is fun and ya think your just helping the plant....but you don't see the trainwreck coming.

These look in late flower. Normal to see N bleed out. It happens to us all at times. Maybe watch for early signs and catch it early. Nice plants man. Good job.
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When you mean feed you mean just water for the next few feeds until harvest ?
 
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Ottoking94

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Budzbuddha said:
Hate to say it - but it was from your hand.

Throwing all kinds of ingredients into one plant.

“ Right now I’m feeding AN bloom, Cha-Ching and a bit of kelp. Last week it was Beastie Blooms with AN BLOOM, cal mag and kelp. “

All of that needs time to break down ( usually over a week or so ) but the following week you dump more on it.

Bottom line - the issues come from antagonism between all of the elements stepping on each other.
Too hard to determine which one thing is causing the majority of problems since there is so much plus what was added as dry nutes. PH ( soil ) is probably out if whack - salt buildup etc.

Normally i would chime in with a much simpler approach especially with Ocean Forest but too many components have been introduced to the medium.

Next time - simplify things.
Ocean Forest on water alone for a few weeks then top dress more fresh FFOF to container and water that in.

Zero need for bat guano / ch ching / different nute lines trying to compete.
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Should I just feed water until harvest ?
 
Rocket Soul

Rocket Soul

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Do you measure EC of run off? This will tell you whether its too low nutes or lock out. Lock out then flush a bit, low nutes then add some not slow release nutes.
High intensity led growing is easier woth hydro nutes.
 
Fatjoe

Fatjoe

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Ottoking94 said:
When you mean feed you mean just water for the next few feeds until harvest ?
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Checking the EC is a good idea. But I'd not stop feeding her untill you want to flush. That's up to you. Some do some don't. Ya really don't have long to go.
 
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