cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Politico, really now? This piece reads as if it were written by some of that man’s legal Kegels after a bottle of nine-dollar Tequila.
Trump guilty on all counts.
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formularacer
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Forgot the trial on his company business practice which they will be prevented from conducting business in NY.
It is personal he is the only scumbag not to pay or compensate for work done on his racing team.
Then if you own real estate in NYC you are charged with extra rules and cost due to the trump organization discriminatory rental practices.
He runs his organization like a mafia don, and should end the same way most of the other mob leaders do.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
Yah
100%
The people of the State of NY and especially the City of New York have had their fill and more of Trump. The rest of the country should listen to those who have the most exposure to this man.
Kindbud421
Well-Known Member
Northern ny here, done even wanting to hear his name! Deny, deny, deny, torment, deny, deny… what is next? Hope he loses cuz his “moral” values don’t seem to “moral” to me. And just take a listen to what he wants to do… if re-elected… it’ll be the 50’s again. Not the wholesome 50s but the racist 50s. And women’s rights will be tossed in the trash. He may improve some things… but we all will be worse off for it!
formularacer
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I kan't understand why he has such support, where about 99% of the people that worked for him or under him have not a good word to say.
The only thing I can think of is you want to be in the club of I was screwed by trump.
I remember his first pronouncement I made my millions the hard way. Yup daddy gave you a million.
The only thing I can think of is you want to be in the club of I was screwed by trump.
I remember his first pronouncement I made my millions the hard way. Yup daddy gave you a million.
Nugnewbie
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Wasn't it more like 300 million? I am not sure on the sum of his inheritance.
Edit: Had to Google it and this is what my search resulted in.
Inheritance. In 1993, when Trump took two loans totaling $30 million from his siblings, their anticipated shares of Fred's estate amounted to $35 million each. Upon Fred Trump's death in 1999, his will divided $20 million after taxes among his surviving children.
formularacer
Well-Known Member
He started abusing workers in 1976 long before daddy croaked. That when daddy give him his first million.
Fogdog
Well-Known Member
I too cannot fathom the hold Trump has on something like 40% of voters and so have been looking for information to help me understand these people. I still don't understand but I I've heard their reasons and to be honest, their reasons frighten me. From my own biased perspective, I hear their reasons to be a mix of ignorance coupled with pro-fascist sentiment and a taint of white grievance. But that's not the story they tell about themselves so I choose to listen to them without comment.
This podcast presents what people are thinking and feeling when they explain why they plan to vote for Trump or Biden. The podcast presenters are Never Trump former Republican political analysts and still politically conservative but not the MAGA fake conservative. They sacrificed careers within the Republican Party for their ideals and while I don't agree with everything they say, they know the MAGA and conservative swing voters well. So I find them worth listening to, especially the interviews of conservative swing voters who will in part decide the outcome of the election in November.
topcat
Well-Known Member
He claims he got a little loan of $1M. He got much more over the years and squandered it all. A confidence man, that's all.
Yeah, the illegal Polish immigrant story.
PolitiFact | We Googled 'Trump Polish workers.' Here's what we found
jimihendrix1
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tRumpy-Poo, will be able to vote.
In NY, if one isnt incarcerated, and/or have an appeal, you dont lose the right to vote, until everything is sorted out, once and for all.
Also, Florida, reciprocates with others state laws when it comes to voting. So, if tRump, is eligible to vote in New York, Florida, wont take his right to vote, because by law, if he was a NY Resident. He would be eligible to vote.
In NY, if one isnt incarcerated, and/or have an appeal, you dont lose the right to vote, until everything is sorted out, once and for all.
Also, Florida, reciprocates with others state laws when it comes to voting. So, if tRump, is eligible to vote in New York, Florida, wont take his right to vote, because by law, if he was a NY Resident. He would be eligible to vote.
Kindbud421
Well-Known Member
I have done land surveys for dons old law professor. He has nothing good to say about him. In fact, Donnie’s dad told this particular law professor (who was his personal friend) to “keep an eye on Donnie, he’s stupid and liable to get into trouble” verbatim quote from the dr of law
topcat
Well-Known Member
"dons old law professor"? Uh, I need more to go on. The Convict is not a lawyer, so I'm confused by your saying so. Is there anything to back this up? I'd like to believe it.
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
The Myth and History Behind the Easter Bunny and Its Eggs
We went down a real rabbit hole for this one.
www.snopes.com
cannabineer
Ursus marijanus
Meanwhile, Republicans keep gnawing at the bones of the rule of law. It’s frankly infuriating.
amp.cnn.com
CNN —
President Joe Biden’s decision to call out his predecessor Donald Trump as a “convicted felon” for the first time represents a significant hardening of his rhetoric against his Republican general election foe.
Biden’s escalation at an off-camera fundraiser in Connecticut on Monday evening came as some Democrats pressed for a more robust political attack on the presumptive Republican nominee following his guilty verdict in his New York hush money trial last week.
“For the first time in American history a former president that is a convicted felon is now seeking the office of the presidency,” Biden said. “But as disturbing as that is, more damaging is the all-out assault Donald Trump is making on the American system of justice.”
Other Democratic officials have used such rhetoric. But the phrase took on greater force coming from the mouth of the president himself. While Republicans have rallied around Trump since his conviction, it remains unclear how the verdict will go down in swing states where the shift in a few thousand votes could decide November’s election.
Biden’s remark was yet another stunning turn in an election entangled in Trump’s multiple legal threats. It came on a day when the first family was embroiled in its own extraordinary courtroom drama as Biden’s son Hunter became the first child of a sitting president to go on trial. The younger Biden has pleaded not guilty to charges of buying and possessing a gun illegally while addicted to or abusing drugs. He also faces a tax trial in September.
Last week, Biden noted that Trump had been convicted on 34 felony counts and said it was “reckless … dangerous … and irresponsible” for his opponent to say the verdict was rigged. Presidential remarks in off-camera fundraisers can often serve as a test bed for rhetoric that later emerges in public events. But Biden’s sharpened tone will certainly lead to accusations by the Trump campaign that the former president’s conviction came after a process of political weaponization of the justice system.
In another significant legal development Monday, Trump got good news from Georgia, where he is among multiple defendants in a racketeering case over his attempt to steal the swing state from Biden’s column in the 2020 election. The Georgia Court of Appeals set oral arguments for October 4 over an effort to remove Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis from the case.
It was just the latest blow to prosecutors pursuing Trump over his election interference case. The timing of the arguments — only a month before Election Day — makes for an impossibly short timeframe for a trial. The Georgia case, in which Trump has pleaded not guilty, has been delayed by defendants’ attempt to disqualify Willis after she employed a prosecutor with whom she was in a relationship.
Other Trump cases are in suspended animation
Two federal cases against Trump, in which he’s also pleaded not guilty, are in a holding pattern.
The US Supreme Court is expected to rule this month on Trump’s sweeping demand for immunity for actions he undertook while president. The justices could still deliver a definitive ruling, but any decision that requires further litigation in lower courts could mean time runs out in special counsel Jack Smith’s election interference case with only five months to go before Election Day. At the same time, multiple disputes in pre-trial motions have put the looming federal trial in Florida over Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents into suspended animation. Democrats have accused Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon of showing political bias in her rulings.
The logjam on multiple fronts means that it may prove impossible for the US legal system to account for the alleged attempt by a former president to stay in power against the will of voters before he has the chance to win another mandate. In itself, the delay represents a significant threat to American democracy’s bid to save itself since it suggests that a future president who acted the same way Trump did might expect impunity.
Trump’s avoidance of accountability over 2020 election interference — through a mixture of skilled litigation by his lawyers, some backfiring decisions by prosecutors and luck — would also hugely raise the stakes of November’s election.
If Trump loses, his future after already losing one criminal case looks incredibly grim, with three cases that are likely to eventually get to trials that will entail massive legal fees. But if Trump wins, he could appoint an attorney general who could halt the federal cases in their tracks. And his Justice Department would be sure to make every effort to delay or defray any negative outcome he faces in the Georgia case as well as the New York hush money conviction that is due to proceed to sentencing on July 11. Given the personal stakes, it’s reasonable to assume Trump will not stop at anything to regain power at a time when he’s refusing to guarantee accepting the result of the 2024 election.
Ty Cobb, a former Trump White House counsel, told CNN’s Erin Burnett on Monday that the date set in Georgia in October means there is “no possibility of this case going to trial before the election.” And he added that the chances were rising that Trump could avoid any legal accountability for his actions in 2020 if he wins in 2024.
“It’s very real if he wins the election, it’s not real at all if he loses,” Cobb said. Referring to the federal election interference case and the classified documents matter, Cobb said, “Both of those will end up going at some point if Trump loses in early to mid next year and the Georgia case will likely follow that along.”
History made in Delaware
The sluggish pace of Trump’s criminal trials contrasts with the efficiency of those facing Hunter Biden, who’s also due to face trial on tax charges in September.
The cases of the former president and the current president’s son are not analogous, and those surrounding Trump are hugely complicated. But they are sure to leave many Democrats marveling at the prospect that the only federal trial entangled with this year’s election could be one that is targeting Hunter Biden and not Trump, whose actions after the 2020 election stretched US democracy to its limit.
Joe Biden pledged on Monday not to comment on the outcome of a federal trial, but in a statement, he expressed boundless love for his son and his respect for his success in overcoming addiction to crack cocaine. “I am the President, but I am also a dad,” Biden said.
Biden’s cranked up rhetoric at the Monday fundraiser follows a warning by Trump in an interview with Fox News broadcast on Sunday of the consequences if Judge Juan Merchan imposed any jail term following the guilty verdict last week.
“I’m not sure the public would stand for it,” the former president said. “I think it’d be tough for the public to take. You know, at a certain point, there’s a breaking point.” Some senior Democrats accused Trump of inciting violence in his remarks, which took on a more ominous complexion given his past invocation to supporters to “fight like hell” before the mob attack by his supporters on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021.
“This is clearly Donald Trump once again inciting violence, potential violence, when he is sentenced,” Rep. Adam Schiff told Kasie Hunt on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday. The California Democrat accused Trump of issuing “yet another dangerous appeal to violence.”
The extraordinary tangling of the 2024 election and legal cases weighing on both Trump and Biden is likely to dominate a hearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday when Attorney General Merrick Garland will brave a new grilling by Republicans.
Garland vowed to restore trust in the legal system when he took office following the tumultuous Trump years by making sure everyone plays by the same rules.
Three years on, he’s frustrated much of Washington with a quest that looks quaint in an era when judges, prosecutors and juries in a proliferating wave of politically loaded cases are under almost constant attack.
But hostility toward Garland has not come just from Republicans, who will be looking for vengeance on Tuesday following Trump’s conviction. Democrats fret over the slow pace of the federal investigations. And the White House complained to Garland after special counsel Robert Hur’s report on Joe Biden’s handling of classified documents portrayed the president’s memory as significantly degraded in a report that unleashed weeks of political reverberations, CNN reported.
Garland is also likely to face scrutiny over the Hunter Biden trial. House Republicans have seized on the case to try to damage the president politically, especially after failing to provide any evidence that he profited from Hunter Biden’s business dealings in their misfiring impeachment investigation.
Republicans celebrated when a plea deal, which they saw as “sweetheart” treatment for Hunter Biden, collapsed in court. But the Hunter Biden trial, as well as a federal corruption trial targeting New Jersey Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez, undercuts Republican claims of a biased justice system made in the wake of the Trump verdict in New York last week.
Why Biden’s escalation on Trump guilty verdict is so significant | CNN Politics
President Joe Biden’s decision to call out his predecessor Donald Trump as a “convicted felon” for the first time represents a significant hardening of his rhetoric against his Republican general election foe.
CNN —
President Joe Biden’s decision to call out his predecessor Donald Trump as a “convicted felon” for the first time represents a significant hardening of his rhetoric against his Republican general election foe.
Biden’s escalation at an off-camera fundraiser in Connecticut on Monday evening came as some Democrats pressed for a more robust political attack on the presumptive Republican nominee following his guilty verdict in his New York hush money trial last week.
“For the first time in American history a former president that is a convicted felon is now seeking the office of the presidency,” Biden said. “But as disturbing as that is, more damaging is the all-out assault Donald Trump is making on the American system of justice.”
Other Democratic officials have used such rhetoric. But the phrase took on greater force coming from the mouth of the president himself. While Republicans have rallied around Trump since his conviction, it remains unclear how the verdict will go down in swing states where the shift in a few thousand votes could decide November’s election.
Biden’s remark was yet another stunning turn in an election entangled in Trump’s multiple legal threats. It came on a day when the first family was embroiled in its own extraordinary courtroom drama as Biden’s son Hunter became the first child of a sitting president to go on trial. The younger Biden has pleaded not guilty to charges of buying and possessing a gun illegally while addicted to or abusing drugs. He also faces a tax trial in September.
Last week, Biden noted that Trump had been convicted on 34 felony counts and said it was “reckless … dangerous … and irresponsible” for his opponent to say the verdict was rigged. Presidential remarks in off-camera fundraisers can often serve as a test bed for rhetoric that later emerges in public events. But Biden’s sharpened tone will certainly lead to accusations by the Trump campaign that the former president’s conviction came after a process of political weaponization of the justice system.
In another significant legal development Monday, Trump got good news from Georgia, where he is among multiple defendants in a racketeering case over his attempt to steal the swing state from Biden’s column in the 2020 election. The Georgia Court of Appeals set oral arguments for October 4 over an effort to remove Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis from the case.
It was just the latest blow to prosecutors pursuing Trump over his election interference case. The timing of the arguments — only a month before Election Day — makes for an impossibly short timeframe for a trial. The Georgia case, in which Trump has pleaded not guilty, has been delayed by defendants’ attempt to disqualify Willis after she employed a prosecutor with whom she was in a relationship.
Other Trump cases are in suspended animation
Two federal cases against Trump, in which he’s also pleaded not guilty, are in a holding pattern.
The US Supreme Court is expected to rule this month on Trump’s sweeping demand for immunity for actions he undertook while president. The justices could still deliver a definitive ruling, but any decision that requires further litigation in lower courts could mean time runs out in special counsel Jack Smith’s election interference case with only five months to go before Election Day. At the same time, multiple disputes in pre-trial motions have put the looming federal trial in Florida over Trump’s alleged mishandling of classified documents into suspended animation. Democrats have accused Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon of showing political bias in her rulings.
The logjam on multiple fronts means that it may prove impossible for the US legal system to account for the alleged attempt by a former president to stay in power against the will of voters before he has the chance to win another mandate. In itself, the delay represents a significant threat to American democracy’s bid to save itself since it suggests that a future president who acted the same way Trump did might expect impunity.
Trump’s avoidance of accountability over 2020 election interference — through a mixture of skilled litigation by his lawyers, some backfiring decisions by prosecutors and luck — would also hugely raise the stakes of November’s election.
If Trump loses, his future after already losing one criminal case looks incredibly grim, with three cases that are likely to eventually get to trials that will entail massive legal fees. But if Trump wins, he could appoint an attorney general who could halt the federal cases in their tracks. And his Justice Department would be sure to make every effort to delay or defray any negative outcome he faces in the Georgia case as well as the New York hush money conviction that is due to proceed to sentencing on July 11. Given the personal stakes, it’s reasonable to assume Trump will not stop at anything to regain power at a time when he’s refusing to guarantee accepting the result of the 2024 election.
Ty Cobb, a former Trump White House counsel, told CNN’s Erin Burnett on Monday that the date set in Georgia in October means there is “no possibility of this case going to trial before the election.” And he added that the chances were rising that Trump could avoid any legal accountability for his actions in 2020 if he wins in 2024.
“It’s very real if he wins the election, it’s not real at all if he loses,” Cobb said. Referring to the federal election interference case and the classified documents matter, Cobb said, “Both of those will end up going at some point if Trump loses in early to mid next year and the Georgia case will likely follow that along.”
History made in Delaware
The sluggish pace of Trump’s criminal trials contrasts with the efficiency of those facing Hunter Biden, who’s also due to face trial on tax charges in September.
The cases of the former president and the current president’s son are not analogous, and those surrounding Trump are hugely complicated. But they are sure to leave many Democrats marveling at the prospect that the only federal trial entangled with this year’s election could be one that is targeting Hunter Biden and not Trump, whose actions after the 2020 election stretched US democracy to its limit.
Joe Biden pledged on Monday not to comment on the outcome of a federal trial, but in a statement, he expressed boundless love for his son and his respect for his success in overcoming addiction to crack cocaine. “I am the President, but I am also a dad,” Biden said.
Biden’s cranked up rhetoric at the Monday fundraiser follows a warning by Trump in an interview with Fox News broadcast on Sunday of the consequences if Judge Juan Merchan imposed any jail term following the guilty verdict last week.
“I’m not sure the public would stand for it,” the former president said. “I think it’d be tough for the public to take. You know, at a certain point, there’s a breaking point.” Some senior Democrats accused Trump of inciting violence in his remarks, which took on a more ominous complexion given his past invocation to supporters to “fight like hell” before the mob attack by his supporters on the US Capitol on January 6, 2021.
“This is clearly Donald Trump once again inciting violence, potential violence, when he is sentenced,” Rep. Adam Schiff told Kasie Hunt on CNN’s “State of the Union” on Sunday. The California Democrat accused Trump of issuing “yet another dangerous appeal to violence.”
The extraordinary tangling of the 2024 election and legal cases weighing on both Trump and Biden is likely to dominate a hearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday when Attorney General Merrick Garland will brave a new grilling by Republicans.
Garland vowed to restore trust in the legal system when he took office following the tumultuous Trump years by making sure everyone plays by the same rules.
Three years on, he’s frustrated much of Washington with a quest that looks quaint in an era when judges, prosecutors and juries in a proliferating wave of politically loaded cases are under almost constant attack.
But hostility toward Garland has not come just from Republicans, who will be looking for vengeance on Tuesday following Trump’s conviction. Democrats fret over the slow pace of the federal investigations. And the White House complained to Garland after special counsel Robert Hur’s report on Joe Biden’s handling of classified documents portrayed the president’s memory as significantly degraded in a report that unleashed weeks of political reverberations, CNN reported.
Garland is also likely to face scrutiny over the Hunter Biden trial. House Republicans have seized on the case to try to damage the president politically, especially after failing to provide any evidence that he profited from Hunter Biden’s business dealings in their misfiring impeachment investigation.
Republicans celebrated when a plea deal, which they saw as “sweetheart” treatment for Hunter Biden, collapsed in court. But the Hunter Biden trial, as well as a federal corruption trial targeting New Jersey Democratic Sen. Robert Menendez, undercuts Republican claims of a biased justice system made in the wake of the Trump verdict in New York last week.
