Examples of GOP Leadership

CANON_Grow

CANON_Grow

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printer said:
I use the term 'him' as it gives you an idea where he came from. He was a gung ho army type when he was younger. I have no problem with him, last time I saw him was with his rig parked out front of my mother's place. But when it comes time for 'him' to wrestle another woman to the ground 'she' (feel better?) will probably win. No, I do not call my cousin him, her, she, they, I use the name I was told she goes by now.

I think in terms of gender as in how many chromosomes a person has. Whether they grew up learning how it is to be a girl or a guy. Not a lot of guys get periods every month, a woman or man's body talk to us differently whether or not the wrong spirit ended up in the wrong gender's body. On my cousin's disposition, he still acts like a guy but with boobs and a dress on. He must still have male longings, he hooked up with a woman after he went through the whole process.

What has being a pro got to do with it? The whole problem really came about in high school sports from what I recall. No, no guy is going to change in order to get a trophy. But what does it do to the other females having a trans person win? Sure it may have some of them thinking it is unfair. And who said if you are transitioning that life would be fare and you get to play sports against other women? I have no problems with a person wanting to change their gender. But I balance that against the women in sports. Except race cars. That is a sport I could see them compete equally.
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There are governing bodies that regulate fair competition already. What makes politicians know more about fair competition than the people who's entire job is keeping sports competitive and growing? There have been cisgender women banned from track events because of naturally elevated testosterone, with some coerced into surgery or taking medication to reduce the natural testosterone levels in their bodies for fair competition if they want to continue to compete.

I agree that the one case I can think of, Lia Thomas - the swimmer, causes apprehension when thinking about keeping sports fair. If there are athletes that were female at birth, and underwent gender testing to prove they were female, and were still banned because of too much competitive advantage - how likely is it that trans-athletes are going to become a big enough of an issue that required this legislation?

The issue should be studied further, but it has started and assumptions may not be reality regarding trans-athletes dominance in sports.
www.msnbc.com

Opinion | The Olympic committee studied trans athletes. Conservatives won't like what it found.

Few anti-LGBTQ policies have taken off as quickly as those banning trans women and girls from women’s and girls’ sports.
www.msnbc.com www.msnbc.com

If the R's are so concerned about protecting female athletes, maybe they should focus on what can be done to reduce the sexual violence they face compared to non athletes. We all know that won't happen, because it's not about protecting female athletes - it's about attacking people they don't believe should exist.
 
garybo

garybo

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Fogdog said:
www.nbcnews.com

Poll: Most Republicans say criminal charges shouldn't disqualify Trump

Almost three-quarters of Republicans believe Trump has had a mainly positive impact on their party.
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My subject was about our congress, not about Trump.
Our congress was started in or about 1789, this was before Trump was born.
There are 491 instances of alleged and actual misconduct by legislators in the United States Congress, see
www.govtrack.us

GovTrack.us - Legislator Misconduct Database

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Fogdog

Fogdog

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garybo said:
My subject was about our congress, not about Trump.
Our congress was started in or about 1789, this was before Trump was born.
There are 491 instances of alleged and actual misconduct by legislators in the United States Congress, see
www.govtrack.us

GovTrack.us - Legislator Misconduct Database

www.govtrack.us www.govtrack.us
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One can't separate Trump from the Republican Congress and today's Republican Party. Also, we aren't talking about what happened a hundred years ago. We are talking about today, when Republicans have voted to strip away body autonomy from women. They are even writing laws that prevent pregnant women who live in their state from traveling out of state for medical procedures that would be illegal where they live. Republicans are, without any factual justification whatsoever, denying the right of trans women who have practically zero testosterone in their bodies for more than a specified period of time to compete in women's sports. There is no evidence to support this ban. I'm not just saying that by myself, the IOC says so too.

The meme you posted made a false claim and is just a baseless plea to emotion. Suggest you learn more about that which you speak. And citing the bible as a reference is not convincing either. All that does is move the discussion farther back in time and does not use facts that are available to us today.

Regarding your post about Menendez. I'm not defending him. Neither are Democratic Party leaders, Biden, Democrats in Congress or the DNC. However, as I posted to you, Republican are slobbering for revenge and denying that prosecution of Trump is legal. The leader of the Republican Party is being charged with crimes he did in fact commit. We saw him commit some of them in real time, we've heard the conversations, we've seen the stolen documents. He's been convicted of rape, sexual assault and financial fraud. Yet still they support him. Do you not see the difference between TODAY's political parties and their leaders?
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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printer said:
youtube.com/watch?v=JNsAJghYscQ
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LOL, the lawyer, Christina Bobb, who falsely attested in a signed affidavit to the DOJ that all the secret and classified documents Trump stole from the WH had been returned (and days later boxes containing many more were found after the FBI searched the premises). THAT lawyer, Christina Bob, who had been set up by smarter lawyers to sign that document.

She's now head attorney of the RNC's "election integrity". I can't make that up, @garybo might be right that I'm stupid but I'm not so stupid as to think down to that level. Anyway, the lawyer in charge of election integrity has been indicted in Arizona for, wait for it, interfering with the election in Arizona in 2020. Charges include forgery.

As the Arizona AG said:

"We're here because justice demands an answer to the efforts the defendants and other unindicted co-conspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of Arizona's voters during the 2020 presidential election," Mayes said. "Arizona's election was free and fair. The people of Arizona elected President Biden, unwilling to accept this fact that defendants charged by the state grand jury, allegedly schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency. Whatever their reasoning was, the plot to violate the law must be answered for and I was elected to uphold the law of this state."

The attorney general continued: "The scheme had it succeeded would have deprived Arizona's voters of their right to have their votes counted for their chosen president. It effectively would have made their right to vote meaningless."

This is who Republicans put in charge of the integrity of their own elections.

Another example of gop leadership.
 
topcat

topcat

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Fogdog said:
LOL, the lawyer, Christina Bobb, who falsely attested in a signed affidavit to the DOJ that all the secret and classified documents Trump stole from the WH had been returned (and days later boxes containing many more were found after the FBI searched the premises). THAT lawyer, Christina Bob, who had been set up by smarter lawyers to sign that document.

She's now head attorney of the RNC's "election integrity". I can't make that up, @garybo might be right that I'm stupid but I'm not so stupid as to think down to that level. Anyway, the lawyer in charge of election integrity has been indicted in Arizona for, wait for it, interfering with the election in Arizona in 2020. Charges include forgery.

As the Arizona AG said:

"We're here because justice demands an answer to the efforts the defendants and other unindicted co-conspirators allegedly took to undermine the will of Arizona's voters during the 2020 presidential election," Mayes said. "Arizona's election was free and fair. The people of Arizona elected President Biden, unwilling to accept this fact that defendants charged by the state grand jury, allegedly schemed to prevent the lawful transfer of the presidency. Whatever their reasoning was, the plot to violate the law must be answered for and I was elected to uphold the law of this state."

The attorney general continued: "The scheme had it succeeded would have deprived Arizona's voters of their right to have their votes counted for their chosen president. It effectively would have made their right to vote meaningless."

This is who Republicans put in charge of the integrity of their own elections.

Another example of gop leadership.
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Evan Corcoran wasn't about to sign that thing, he wrote it. Bobble thinks her caveat "based upon the information that has been provided to me" will save her. A damn dumb lawyer.:wall:
 
sunni

sunni

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it seems we cannot have discussion without name calling, insults.

As a reminder transphobic comments are not allowed.. Its is clear we have a few transphobic people here, abide by the rules please.

Personal insults not allowed.
 
printer

printer

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cannabineer said:
The fact that you are referring to her as “he” and “him” illustrates a real problem. I wonder if you also deadname her. Since you say she has endured the whole process, that means counseling, hormones and surgery.
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Seeing it still topical I had to look over it all again as I might have missed something. I guess I did, I never knew what deadname was, never heard the name before. "call (a transgender person) by their birth name when they have changed their name as part of their gender transition."

Uh, no, never done that, have always called him by the name he chose, even the third one. Sad you have such little faith in me even after all these years.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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printer said:
Seeing it still topical I had to look over it all again as I might have missed something. I guess I did, I never knew what deadname was, never heard the name before. "call (a transgender person) by their birth name when they have changed their name as part of their gender transition."

Uh, no, never done that, have always called him by the name he chose, even the third one. Sad you have such little faith in me even after all these years.
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Faith is subjective. Dead-pronouning is fact.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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Bill Barr: I think the real threat to democracy is the progressive movement and the Biden administration.


This, after having a front row seat to Jan 6 and the lead-up to it. This after condemning Trump for what he did on that day. This, after receiving reports from DOJ investigators that the white nationalist movement represented serious domestic terrorist threats to the US and not Antifa or BLM after THEY were investigated.

God Damn, Bill Barr, if there were such a thing as Hell, its creator had you in mind and made a space extra specially created for you.
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

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Fogdog said:
Bill Barr: I think the real threat to democracy is the progressive movement and the Biden administration.


This, after having a front row seat to Jan 6 and the lead-up to it. This after condemning Trump for what he did on that day. This, after receiving reports from DOJ investigators that the white nationalist movement represented serious domestic terrorist threats to the US and not Antifa or BLM after THEY were investigated.

God Damn, Bill Barr, if there were such a thing as Hell, its creator had you in mind and made a space extra specially created for you.
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The example above yours of a Ukrainian-born congressperson voting against aid for Ukraine is part of the same disease.
 
Fogdog

Fogdog

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cannabineer said:
The example above yours of a Ukrainian-born congressperson voting against aid for Ukraine is part of the same disease.
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yeesh, we've seen a lot of darkness coming from that side this week.

From bearing false witness to dishonoring one's homeland to, an amazing, shocking story that should cause a jolt to one's emotions, a dead puppy at the hand of Trump's prospective VP candidate.

A dead puppy. And a goat on the same day. She said she hated both. And this is who would be an 80-year-old man's heartbeat away from taking the most powerful office in the world.
 
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cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
Fogdog said:
yeesh, we've seen a lot of darkness coming from that side this week.

From bearing false witness to dishonoring one's homeland to, an amazing, shocking story that should cause a jolt to one's emotions, a dead puppy at the hand of Trump's prospective VP candidate.

A dead puppy. And a goat on the same day. At least they went quick. It was probably not as bad as putting a live dog in a kennel, strapping it to the roof of one's car and driving at freeway speeds for hours like Romney did. But all is forgiven now that he's achieved sainthood.
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I had to google the puppy thing. It’s an extension of the slaver mentality that has found such a hospitable residence in the GOP. Noem had no room in her heart for a service-class organism that would not serve enthusiastically and compliantly.

Not the sort of person I want for public office.

Also, she never once considered rehoming the animal. Once again, cruelty (dressed up as can-do pioneer spirit!) is the point.


"I hated that dog," Noem wrote in the excerpt.

So it was personal.
 
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