Seedlings shrivelling and dying

lolimhighguys

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All 3 plants are about 2-3 weeks old. I've been on a good watering schedule, watering every day or two. I used nutrients on Monday hoping that would help, no bounce back. I keep lights on 24h in my budget grow box. I'm worried it might be humidity being low? I want to see my babies thrive please help.
 

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MintyDreadlocks

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Lots of reading to do yet. Seems like general marijuana growing fundamentals are not being seen through properly.

The lids on your cups serves you no good once the seedling breaches soil.

Keeping your soil wet all the way through when planting a new seed is not a good practice as there are no roots to absorb the excess water and will lead to over watering issues and fungal disease.

Your plants look dry and crispy maybe even burnt. 3 weeks is way to long for those seedlings you should be well into veg. They're completely stalling. You give us no information.

We need information about your grow setup to be sure but im just going to say it without any prerequisite that your setup is completely Jerry rigged and needs some serious TLC.
 

Fangthane

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What kind of soil are you growing in? Assuming the pots have drainage holes, are you fully saturating the medium until you get runoff? They look more like 2-3 day old seedlings. Definitely need a bunch more details.
 

Manky

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I try to avoid watering seedlings from the top, and when I do, it's best to avoid runoff because I end up with a perched water table that can cause issues.
When going from solos into tall 1 gallon pots, I install a wick to prevent PWT.
 

OldMedUser

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I try to avoid watering seedlings from the top, and when I do, it's best to avoid runoff because I end up with a perched water table that can cause issues.
When going from solos into tall 1 gallon pots, I install a wick to prevent PWT.
What's a perched water table? I've only been growing since '78 so not up on the newfangled lingo.

I've always watered my seedlings in tiny pots from the top so don't see an issue with that.

:peace:
 

Manky

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What's a perched water table? I've only been growing since '78 so not up on the newfangled lingo.

I've always watered my seedlings in tiny pots from the top so don't see an issue with that.

:peace:
PWT info can be found here:

Learning new things is good.
:leaf:
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"Perched water is water that defies gravity and remains in the soil after the soil stops draining. If you wet a sponge & hold it by a corner until it stops draining, the water that is forced out of the sponge when you squeeze it is perched water. From the plant's perspective, perched water is unhealthy because it occupies air spaces that are needed for normal root function and metabolism. Poor exchange of the gasses produced under anoxic (airless) conditions (CO2, sulfurous compounds, methane) are also an issue. The main issue though, is that roots deprived of sufficient oxygen begin to die within hours. You do not actually see this, but the finest, almost microscopic, and most important roots die first. The plant then has to spend stored energy or current photosynthate (food/ carbohydrate) to regenerate lost roots - a very expensive energy outlay that would otherwise have been spent on maintenance of the currently living mass, blooms, fruit, or normal growth. Perhaps the plant would have stored the energy for a winter's rest and the spring flush of growth instead of expending it on root regeneration necessitated by soil saturation"
 

lolimhighguys

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My setup consists of a PVC sheet going all around the grow, 3 pieces of presentation board lined with aluminum foil, shiny side out. A mini 3200 rpm fan that pushes about 0.5m/s. A jiffy hydro jhlight-9. I keep a pot of water to increase humidity as we have an air exchange in every room. My soil is magic plantation potting mix, which consists of humus, peat moss, sand and perlite. I water every 2-3 days when the soil is basically completely dry. What other info would be useful? Do you recommend I cut my losses with those 3 and grow my others?
 

Fangthane

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Probably approaching pointless to start more seeds until your current issues are sorted out. Looks like you have that light fairly high above them, which isn't ideal. Your light looks to be the very low wattage type that is meant to be parked just a few inches above seedlings. I'm lousy at diagnosing problems, but the rest of these people can probably help much more.
 

OldMedUser

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PWT info can be found here:

Learning new things is good.
:leaf:
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"Perched water is water that defies gravity and remains in the soil after the soil stops draining. If you wet a sponge & hold it by a corner until it stops draining, the water that is forced out of the sponge when you squeeze it is perched water. From the plant's perspective, perched water is unhealthy because it occupies air spaces that are needed for normal root function and metabolism. Poor exchange of the gasses produced under anoxic (airless) conditions (CO2, sulfurous compounds, methane) are also an issue. The main issue though, is that roots deprived of sufficient oxygen begin to die within hours. You do not actually see this, but the finest, almost microscopic, and most important roots die first. The plant then has to spend stored energy or current photosynthate (food/ carbohydrate) to regenerate lost roots - a very expensive energy outlay that would otherwise have been spent on maintenance of the currently living mass, blooms, fruit, or normal growth. Perhaps the plant would have stored the energy for a winter's rest and the spring flush of growth instead of expending it on root regeneration necessitated by soil saturation"
Thanks. In pots I use mainly ProMix HP that I allow to dry down really good then water to saturation so air can move in as the plants use up the water. I also use an airstone in my 5gal jug of RO water for at least an hour before mixing up nutes and watering the plants. I'm lousy at growing in real dirt so soilless with AN 3-part nutes works for me tho I have been experimenting with adding organics to the HP but that hasn't worked well. As I'm slowing down on growing and plan to turn most of it into oils for edibles I'm not going to dick around with the organics anymore and the wife can use all that Gaia Green stuff in her greenhouse for her peppers and such.

:peace:
 

Sergeant420

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My guess is bad seeds or ph but one should no ph before you drop even perspective on past experiences same soil reused or the likes but could be as simple as over fed over watered in my opinion it’s hard to know seeds bought or your own from smoked resources? An how your temps an humidity running also after a re read I noticed 24 hours light yes yiu can do this but in all honesty if yiu want healthy do not go above 18 this will give plant time to do downstairs what can’t be seen build sugars recover sleep in essence you run 24/7 see how long you last it’s about everything we already push the edges of the daylight stealing sleep much needed running 18 but the plants get used to it an make the best of that sleep root growth an stem growth are big part of its health if you realise that you’ll, be much better off for it mate in my opinion an learned reading this is my take
 
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Sergeant420

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Good
PWT info can be found here:

Learning new things is good.
:leaf:
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"Perched water is water that defies gravity and remains in the soil after the soil stops draining. If you wet a sponge & hold it by a corner until it stops draining, the water that is forced out of the sponge when you squeeze it is perched water. From the plant's perspective, perched water is unhealthy because it occupies air spaces that are needed for normal root function and metabolism. Poor exchange of the gasses produced under anoxic (airless) conditions (CO2, sulfurous compounds, methane) are also an issue. The main issue though, is that roots deprived of sufficient oxygen begin to die within hours. You do not actually see this, but the finest, almost microscopic, and most important roots die first. The plant then has to spend stored energy or current photosynthate (food/ carbohydrate) to regenerate lost roots - a very expensive energy outlay that would otherwise have been spent on maintenance of the currently living mass, blooms, fruit, or normal growth. Perhaps the plant would have stored the energy for a winter's rest and the spring flush of growth instead of expending it on root regeneration necessitated by soil saturation"
Good info
 
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