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FishinFreak

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Hey folks, first time grower here. I have 4 plants going in a 4x4 tent. All 4 are in 3 gal pots. Planted in FFHF. 2 on the right are strawberry cough, back left is blueberry, and front left is blackberry kush. The BBK has been giving me issues since a seedling. Getting towards the end of week 2 veg and have been giving all plants the same fox farm nutes (about half dose of recommended). I’ve been waiting 2-3 days between watering/feeding. I believe I have an overwatering issue and/or nute burn/def?? What do you think? She has dark green, clawing leaves. I will also post a pic of a couple discolored bottom leaves on the SC. Thoughts?B83779F3-3A53-40F0-9E09-1B7821CB90D2.jpeg
 
cannabiscrusader

cannabiscrusader

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Ffhf doesn't have much in it, but it has some. Adding more too soon is causing the nitrogen toxicity. Fox farms trio is also notoriously problematic. I would switch nutrient lines.

For now just plain water next couple times, then start back on 1/4 strength after it clears up. Ramp up when they get bigger.
 
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FishinFreak

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cannabiscrusader said:
Ffhf doesn't have much in it, but it has some. Adding more too soon is causing the nitrogen toxicity. Fox farms trio is also notoriously problematic. I would switch nutrient lines.

For now just plain water next couple times, then start back on 1/4 strength after it clears up. Ramp up when they get bigger.
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Thanks for the recommendation. I will give that a go. Aside from the nitrogen toxicity, how are they looking? They had some explosive growth in week 1 and have since slowed up a bit.
 
secretmicrogrow420

secretmicrogrow420

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when me and my brother burly started growing cannabis we would use fox farms soil and fox farms nutrients all our plants were super healthy! fox farms does a great job(this was my experience). the bud quality was never the best but i think that was due to us not using UVB/UVA spectra to increase potency.
how are you watering / feeding? do you feed them every time you give them water? or do you give them pure water in between feedings? also make sure you let them drink enough water before watering them again.
cannabiscrusader said:
Ffhf doesn't have much in it, but it has some. Adding more too soon is causing the nitrogen toxicity. Fox farms trio is also notoriously problematic. I would switch nutrient lines.

For now just plain water next couple times, then start back on 1/4 strength after it clears up. Ramp up when they get bigger.
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sorry for bother but you say fox farms trio is problematic so may i ask what you would recommend? im thinking of using other fertilizers currently using advanced nutrients so im curious what your recommendation would be? only reason i use AN atm is because of the PH perfect technology
 
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FishinFreak

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secretmicrogrow420 said:
when me and my brother burly started growing cannabis we would use fox farms soil and fox farms nutrients all our plants were super healthy! fox farms does a great job(this was my experience). the bud quality was never the best but i think that was due to us not using UVB/UVA spectra to increase potency.
how are you watering / feeding? do you feed them every time you give them water? or do you give them pure water in between feedings? also make sure you let them drink enough water before watering them again.
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I have been feeding a half dose of nutes every other watering. Typically 2-3 days between watering. I’ve followed fox farms feeding schedule so the plants just got their second taste of grow big last Friday. Also using fabric pots with excellent drainage.
 
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secretmicrogrow420

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FishinFreak said:
I have been feeding a half dose of nutes every other watering. Typically 2-3 days between watering. I’ve followed fox farms feeding schedule so the plants just got their second taste of grow big last Friday. Also using fabric pots with excellent drainage.
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damn thats how me and my brother would feed using fox farms we never had any issues :( sorry your having problems boss man :(.
 
cannabiscrusader

cannabiscrusader

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secretmicrogrow420 said:
when me and my brother burly started growing cannabis we would use fox farms soil and fox farms nutrients all our plants were super healthy! fox farms does a great job(this was my experience). the bud quality was never the best but i think that was due to us not using UVB/UVA spectra to increase potency.
how are you watering / feeding? do you feed them every time you give them water? or do you give them pure water in between feedings? also make sure you let them drink enough water before watering them again.

sorry for bother but you say fox farms trio is problematic so may i ask what you would recommend? im thinking of using other fertilizers currently using advanced nutrients so im curious what your recommendation would be? only reason i use AN atm is because of the PH perfect technology
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I use doctor earth 4-4-4 and flower girl 3-9-4 dry amendments. I also use Dolomite, langbeinite, and asomite in a sip. I broke away from the bottles and never looked back. Just add plain tap water, I don't ph anything.
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HydoDan

HydoDan

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I don't think its the Fox Farms nutes as much is it is their feeding schedule..
I use Dr Earth and water only..
 
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FishinFreak

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UPDATE: not doing so well. I believe the root of my issues is a lockout from low PH. Been PHing (Brita filtered water- also a mistake) and watering at 6 but did a light flush yesterday and runoff was about 4-4.5! Wth any suggestion? I’m planning on feeding using tap water that reads 7 with some nutes and calmag tomorrow morning because the ladies are not looking healthy :(IMG_1514.jpegIMG_1510.jpeg
 
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Everytimefoo

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FishinFreak said:
Hey folks, first time grower here. I have 4 plants going in a 4x4 tent. All 4 are in 3 gal pots. Planted in FFHF. 2 on the right are strawberry cough, back left is blueberry, and front left is blackberry kush. The BBK has been giving me issues since a seedling. Getting towards the end of week 2 veg and have been giving all plants the same fox farm nutes (about half dose of recommended). I’ve been waiting 2-3 days between watering/feeding. I believe I have an overwatering issue and/or nute burn/def?? What do you think? She has dark green, clawing leaves. I will also post a pic of a couple discolored bottom leaves on the SC. Thoughts?View attachment 5336309
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Overwater.
 
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Everytimefoo

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FishinFreak said:
How do you accurately test the soil? I’ve only tested ph of the water, water w/ food, and runoff. I believe the brita filtered water is missing a lot of key micro nutes but not sure why the runoff ph was so low
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Ill be the first to say it, no one needs filtered or ro water ever (unless in some pretty special circumstances.) Problably does you more bad than good tbh due to it being devoid of anything, and having to add it etc.
 
cannabiscrusader

cannabiscrusader

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You are starting too low at 6. Your nutes are drifting lower as they sit in the mix, so ph higher going in. 7 or 7.2. As the ph drifts lower, the window for availability will be there.

Don't panic, that's what they want you to do
 
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Everytimefoo

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cannabiscrusader said:
You are starting too low at 6. Your nutes are drifting lower as they sit in the mix, so ph higher going in. 7 or 7.2. As the ph drifts lower, the window for availability will be there.

Don't panic, that's what they want you to do
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cannabiscrusader said:
You are starting too low at 6. Your nutes are drifting lower as they sit in the mix, so ph higher going in. 7 or 7.2. As the ph drifts lower, the window for availability will be there.

Don't panic, that's what they want you to do
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the first pic was definitely overwatered. Blistery leaves weighed down by excess. I think the poster is expecting the leaves to heal as the second pic sets look better off with less excess water. The leaves that got messed up arent goiing to go back to normal.
 
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Phytoplankton

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Happy Frog has sphagnum moss in it, so it will be acidic. As suggested above, start at a PH of about 7 for your input. Once you have the PH issue solved, cut back on the watering, they are definitely overwatered, droopy.puffy leaves.
 
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