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[OldMedUser]

The Tories are assholes and corrupt as Satan, but liberal democracy is not at too much risk with Trump lite here. Ukraine should be ok because many Ukrainian Canadians live in Tory strong holds, and they have become aroused by their roots. Perhaps the Liberals and NDP need to get strategic and not run against each other in certain ridings and that would put them over the top with a coalition government, better than fascism lite and tax cuts for the super-rich.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1699824804692378074

I never voted for Trudeau but he's a lot better option than little PP and the conservative agenda he will bring to the table. I still hate Harper!

The NDP needs another Jack Layton to be any kind of contender. Unfortunately I believe prejudice will prevent any rise in the NDP's numbers with Mr. Singh at the helm. Here in Alberta it's just throwing away your vote to give it to a Liberal candidate as they have next to zero representation here so I vote NDP both federally and provincially. Our last election saw the UCP winning big but a large amount of the ridings they won where but a couple of percentage points above the NDP turnout so fingers crossed for the next time.

 

[printer]

I never voted for Trudeau but he's a lot better option than little PP and the conservative agenda he will bring to the table. I still hate Harper!

The NDP needs another Jack Layton to be any kind of contender. Unfortunately I believe prejudice will prevent any rise in the NDP's numbers with Mr. Singh at the helm. Here in Alberta it's just throwing away your vote to give it to a Liberal candidate as they have next to zero representation here so I vote NDP both federally and provincially. Our last election saw the UCP winning big but a large amount of the ridings they won where but a couple of percentage points above the NDP turnout so fingers crossed for the next time.

Garry Doer. ten years premier of Manitoba, six years ambassador to the U.S. But realistically I think if Trudeau bows out and Chrystia Freeland takes the helm they might do ok.

 

[Cannasaurus Rex]

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/timing-of-evidence-disclosure-raises-ire-of-judge-in-freedom-convoy-trial-1.6553653 Any predictions? I know what most of you want, but ya never know.

 

[CANON_Grow]

https://ottawa.ctvnews.ca/timing-of-evidence-disclosure-raises-ire-of-judge-in-freedom-convoy-trial-1.6553653 Any predictions? I know what most of you want, but ya never know.

I predict they will both be found guilty, but with essentially no further punishment (I think they deserve the largest fine possible, but it's Canada - so it'll be something silly like $1250 + victim surcharge, FFS). They will wear their convictions as a badge of honour and get as much of the grift as they can. Did you already purchase her book?

What is your prediction? If they are found guilty, what do you think should happen?

 

[Cannasaurus Rex]

I have to agree with your prediction, watered down guilty plea deal with fines and conditions (gag order, increased personal scrutiny). I don't know the nuances of the charges or the particular angle prosecution is taking, but I think, if the gov't tries to; make an example of, or severely punish these 2, it will be a long costly (for taxpayers) climb to prove these 2 as 'Traitors to Canada'. Both the accused and the Liberal gov't want this to go away real quick. The present administration has everything to lose. I don't believe these 2 people are anything but a product of the feelings of the majority of Canadians at that moment in time. Minimum allowed sentence for any conviction is what I think should happen. All that needed to 'happen' to prevent this, was fearless leader personally appearing and giving the same "we are here, for YOU too" shtick and ask everyone to go home, but that would take leadership.

 

[OldMedUser]

I predict they will both be found guilty, but with essentially no further punishment (I think they deserve the largest fine possible, but it's Canada - so it'll be something silly like $1250 + victim surcharge, FFS). They will wear their convictions as a badge of honour and get as much of the grift as they can. Did you already purchase her book?

What is your prediction? If they are found guilty, what do you think should happen?

They need some serious time to let f'ers like that know they better be prepared to do the time if they want to do the crime.

Look how it basically stopped the magats from showing up in any force to support their cult leader once Jan. 6 rioters started going to jail and that was before the leaders got real serious time.

10 years at least to make our idiots think twice. They'd be out in 1/3 time anyways so slap the bitches down.

 

[CunningCanuk]

I have to agree with your prediction, watered down guilty plea deal with fines and conditions (gag order, increased personal scrutiny). I don't know the nuances of the charges or the particular angle prosecution is taking, but I think, if the gov't tries to; make an example of, or severely punish these 2, it will be a long costly (for taxpayers) climb to prove these 2 as 'Traitors to Canada'. Both the accused and the Liberal gov't want this to go away real quick. The present administration has everything to lose. I don't believe these 2 people are anything but a product of the feelings of the majority of Canadians at that moment in time. Minimum allowed sentence for any conviction is what I think should happen. All that needed to 'happen' to prevent this, was fearless leader personally appearing and giving the same "we are here, for YOU too" shtick and ask everyone to go home, but that would take leadership.

Ok, I’ll bite.

I don’t accept your presumption that “these 2 people are anything but a product of the feelings of the majority of Canadians at that moment in time.” Please share links to any articles or polls that support your claim.

I’m not Trudeau’s biggest fan but I thought he was more than an effective leader during the pandemic. I know you’re a sucker for the populist, but I’m thankful someone like little PeePee wasn’t PM at the time.

As for the story in the link you posted, I would hope any and all defendants going through our judicial process receive a fair trial. If prosecutors are not playing by the rules, it is a threat to all of us.

I want all Canadians to receive a fair trial. Even those pieces of shit on trial in your link.

 

[printer]

Ok, I’ll bite.

I don’t accept your presumption that “these 2 people are anything but a product of the feelings of the majority of Canadians at that moment in time.” Please share links to any articles or polls that support your claim.

I’m not Trudeau’s biggest fan but I thought he was more than an effective leader during the pandemic. I know you’re a sucker for the populist, but I’m thankful someone like little PeePee wasn’t PM at the time.

As for the story in the link you posted, I would hope any and all defendants going through our judicial process receive a fair trial. If prosecutors are not playing by the rules, it is a threat to all of us.

I want all Canadians to receive a fair trial. Even those pieces of shit on trial in your link.

I will second that. Except for the anti-covid anti-woke faction most people I talked to at the time thought they were acting very un-Canadian and wanted them to go away and thought the government gave them too much leeway. .

 

[CANON_Grow]

I will second that. Except for the anti-covid anti-woke faction most people I talked to at the time thought they were acting very un-Canadian and wanted them to go away and thought the government gave them too much leeway. .

Looking at public opinion data from Angus Reid Institute, what you stated is was the what the majority of the country was thinking. 45% of people polled wanted the police to force people to leave, and 23% felt the military should be summoned. That's from Angus Reid, tends to have right-center bias.

Blockade Backlash: Three-in-four Canadians tell convoy protesters, ‘Go Home Now’ -

Two-thirds say Justin Trudeau’s conduct has “worsened” situation; several public figures condemned February 14, 2022 – If the goal of the Freedom Convoy was to capture the attention of millions of people in Canada and around the globe – mission accomplished. If, however, the goal was to build...

angusreid.org

All that needed to 'happen' to prevent this, was fearless leader personally appearing and giving the same "we are here, for YOU too" shtick and ask everyone to go home, but that would take leadership.

I disagree, for the same reason you don't give a young child exactly what they want when they are throwing a temper tantrum, you don't get rewarded for bad behaviour - you get a timeout.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

I have to agree with your prediction, watered down guilty plea deal with fines and conditions (gag order, increased personal scrutiny). I don't know the nuances of the charges or the particular angle prosecution is taking, but I think, if the gov't tries to; make an example of, or severely punish these 2, it will be a long costly (for taxpayers) climb to prove these 2 as 'Traitors to Canada'. Both the accused and the Liberal gov't want this to go away real quick. The present administration has everything to lose. I don't believe these 2 people are anything but a product of the feelings of the majority of Canadians at that moment in time. Minimum allowed sentence for any conviction is what I think should happen. All that needed to 'happen' to prevent this, was fearless leader personally appearing and giving the same "we are here, for YOU too" shtick and ask everyone to go home, but that would take leadership.

The problem with these people and those who follow them is they are so fucking stupid it is nearly criminal. Dofo was in charge of highways and public health measures, but the dumb fucks didn't know anything about civics, or the Canadian constitution, I guess. The pointless exercise in antisocial idiocy took place as covid restrictions were being lifted globally FFS. At least even stupider Americans paid for most of the party and grift.

 

[cannabineer]

The problem with these people and those who follow them is they are so fucking stupid it is nearly criminal. Dofo was in charge of highways and public health measures, but the dumb fucks didn't know anything about civics, or the Canadian constitution, I guess. The pointless exercise in antisocial idiocy took place as covid restrictions were being lifted globally FFS. At least even stupider Americans paid for most of the party and grift.

we are sort of stupid that way.

afaik this was the first C&H cartoon.

 

[CunningCanuk]

The new Conservative Party. Full on populism, nationalism with a sprinkle of fascism on top. All while Pee Pee continues to rise in the polls. Are we seriously going to ignore the warning given to us by our neighbours to the south?


Conservative delegates voted Saturday to add some new social conservative policies to their policy playbook including a proposal to limit access to transgender health care for minors and to do away with vaccine mandates.

Read in CBC News: https://apple.news/A3Ggp2vMOSDCKqK7PILIl4A

 

[Cannasaurus Rex]

Conservative delegates voted Saturday to add some new social conservative policies to their policy playbook including a proposal to limit access to transgender health care for minors and to do away with vaccine mandates.

Well good on them. Both of these things progressed in such a rapid timeline without proper oversight in the first place. IMO Neither of these events had any press before JT arrived. We did what we were told, and now we have the largest economic stagnation, a terrible jump in interest rates, a blistering homeless crisis, and a huge hard drug problem. Now dudes are wanting the feds to get into the housing business? Peeps here call Conservative voters "so fucking stupid it is nearly criminal" , less polarization and more CANADA is the way.

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

The new Conservative Party. Full on populism, nationalism with a sprinkle of fascism on top. All while Pee Pee continues to rise in the polls. Are we seriously going to ignore the warning given to us by our neighbours to the south?


Conservative delegates voted Saturday to add some new social conservative policies to their policy playbook including a proposal to limit access to transgender health care for minors and to do away with vaccine mandates.

Read in CBC News: https://apple.news/A3Ggp2vMOSDCKqK7PILIl4A

With the polls the way they are I wouldn't expect an election to be called until they have to, the NDP doesn't want to fight that headwind either. PP would be a disaster for Canada and is the result of Trudeau moving too quickly on social policy and immigration, there is a housing shortage and waves of new commers are not helping with that. We have the same issues as the Americans have with economic inequality, inflation and a housing shortage driving homelessness. Many are struggling economically, even governments, but the billionaires can run their own space programs FFS. Most of this is beyond our government's control, but reactionary social forces responding to increased immigration levels are adding to the trouble and Trudeau has been pushing social issues too hard. I'm all for immigration and enlightened social policy, but not if it elects conservatives and fascists, he should stop pandering to some groups of people, support them but not make such a show of it. If you are gonna be a liberal, then be a smart one and work the throttle don't drive it through the floorboards. Addressing economic problems to the extent they can, stomping on grocery stores and breaking them up (popular) and building low-cost housing to drive down prices and rents is the way to go, but it's too late for that. Canada needs immigrants, but it needs housing more right now or homeless will increase and encompass whole families.

The bottom line is technology should have had us living much better than we are now and working people have not made any gains since the 1980s when they fucked themselves and us too with Reagan who changed the economic system. All the gains in productivity went to the top 1% since then and America fucked themselves with Trump too with tax cuts for the rich, again. I don't want to see the same phenomena here where people fuck themselves by voting for Tories who only have an interest in tax cuts for the rich and throwing the base red meat. It's the same as with the republicans down south, con the base with red meat and serve the rich with tax cuts and cuts to social programs. Being rich is one thing, but being rich while everybody else is dirt poor with no social programs takes the power to a whole new level.

 

[Cannasaurus Rex]

Please share links to any articles or polls that support your claim

My beliefs and opinion only, I don't live in Ottawa, but I happened to be on the 401 in Bowmanville when the 'procession passed thru'. There was definitely a 'feeling' in the air. I don't think that I saw that Angus Reid guy... hear a lot about him, heard he used to be a meteorologist.

I know you’re a sucker for the populist

Definitely not popular, but I'll take any compliments at this age

 

[Cannasaurus Rex]

The bottom line is technology should have had us living much better than we are now and working people have not made any gains since the 1980s when they fucked themselves and us too with Reagan who changed the economic system.

Good post btw. I think you wake and baked LOL
We've had 4 decades to "Change it for the better of the people" WTF eh? Politicians are cut from the same middling cloth this generation, not many strong uniting leaders. Our Country deserve better, for less. Despite the 'make the billionaires pay up' mantra, we have to have "big corporations (rich guys) "flourishing in order to keep people living a life of opportunity and having a strong middle class, IMO. Trickle down isn't going at a proper ratio?? It absolutely sucks (wealth disparity) but this is what happens when companies don't live up to owners (shareholders) PROFIT EXPECTATIONShttps://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/sudbury/domtar-espanola-paper-mill-northern-ontario-shut-down-1.6958072 I agree we need change, and not the way we are going about it now. It's been 8 years and there is no path or plan, just weak reactionary measures. The suffering will get worse.

 

[Cannasaurus Rex]

These Political party conventions should just be like a Blue Jays in 30 show, just the power points and votes, no news commentary. And like 30 seconds long, maybe I'd watch one...

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

Shouldn't we be living better than in the 1970s? The gains in productivity and efficiency brought by automation should have us all living much better 50 years later. What's the point of government healthcare if those who are sick and cannot work have to live on the street during winter? Think the high cost of groceries will lead to health problems as people eat more cheap shit?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700857995012227328

 

[CunningCanuk]

The Conservatives had an interesting policy convention. The politics of division, sound familiar?


What do the policies Poilievre’s party passed say about the Conservatives’ future?

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre spent the summer speaking about housing affordability, a core focus that attendees at the party's Quebec City convention were quick to praise him for. But by the end of the weekend, delegates opted to instead pass policies on contentious social issues. What does that say about the Conservatives' future?

Read in CTV News: https://apple.news/AVKUWHWwJSoGcMnG3nDJpGA

 

[DIY-HP-LED]

The Conservatives had an interesting policy convention. The politics of division, sound familiar?


What do the policies Poilievre’s party passed say about the Conservatives’ future?

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre spent the summer speaking about housing affordability, a core focus that attendees at the party's Quebec City convention were quick to praise him for. But by the end of the weekend, delegates opted to instead pass policies on contentious social issues. What does that say about the Conservatives' future?

Read in CTV News: https://apple.news/AVKUWHWwJSoGcMnG3nDJpGA

Culture wars to con and distract the base and the morons of the country while policies shift more wealth to the rich. They won't solve the country's problems, they will make them worse and create new ones, most unnecessary. The problem of wealth imbalance has to be solved in the states and by international tax treaties, but we can do something about housing by creating it as the feds used to do, groceries too, the rebate check doesn't cut it compared to corporate food greedflation. Food and shelter are fundamentals, and the government is failing on both, it's focus and priority on "liberal" causes that affect relatively few compared to the issues of housing and food which affect everybody, LBGTQ, women, natives and other minorities most of all.

The government needs new policies and above all new PR, the liberals and left know Trudeau is liberal and so is the NDP, they don't need to sell that point. They do need to sell some very serious action on food prices and housing by hitting the ground running on construction of new low-cost housing units and encouraging nonprofit grocery stores and chains, farmers markets and better food banks, they also need to break up the two biggest chains into a dozen competing companies or more and have a half dozen wholesalers at least. Maybe combine food banks with farmers markets where they can sell at low cost to food bank users, since they buy groceries too, get creative and above all else get fucking moving. More business less fluff from both the NDP and liberals who need to ally. We all know that they care and are super humane...