TRUMP CONVICTED

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After Willis convicts Trump and the others, she will feel plenty confident to go after the politicians, same for Jack and if the democrats win in 24, he might feel even bolder with Trump's scalp on his belt.


Georgia grand jury recommends indicting Lindsey Graham, Mike Flynn, others. What now?

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The Georgia state special grand jury that hears the evidence in the Georgia state elections crimes investigation recommended that Sen. Lindsey Graham, Mike Flynn and others should be indicted for their crimes.

What should happen next, and what WILL happen next?
 
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DIY-HP-LED

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The longer Trump delays the docs case, the more likely his two sucker underlings under indictment will try to cut a deal on sentencing and testify against Trump. As they see him go down in other cases, especially the early trials in Geogia for his coconspirators the heat will grow on them to flip. Cannon's delays are doing Trump little good, but they are helping to seal his fate and she has to sentence him, but it will hardly matter if she opts for probation!

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1700164817989042281
 
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The magats will bring the phone system down in Colorado with death threats against the Secretary of State, the plaintiffs, the judge(s) and anybody else associated with Trump's disqualification! They would lose their tiny little minds I wonder how the SCOTUS will feel about getting doxxed... :lol:


'An unprecedented situation': Efforts to bar Trump with 14th Amendment gain steam

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Colorado's Secretary of State Jena Griswold joins Nicolle Wallace to talk about how six voters in her state - four Republican, two unaffiliated - are seeking to remove the disgraced ex-president from that state's ballots, for his role in the January 6th attack.
 
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cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
She will strip away the bullshit and Trump should be liable for criminal charges over this massive tax fraud too, but Donald has a rather full court calander lately. She can clean him out for more than 250 million, that is just a starting number, and the prison time is long for this shit too and it is mostly a documents-based case.

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imagine being ordered to pay the difference.
 
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cannabineer said:
imagine being ordered to pay the difference.
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The way I see it they have him massively inflating his wealth for loan purposes (Bank fraud) and deflating his wealth for tax purposes (Tax fraud). She's got him coming and going and Donald seems to have a lot of black women who have him by the balls, I count 3 so far including the DC judge Chutkan, who owns his ass.
 
cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
The way I see it they have him massively inflating his wealth for loan purposes (Bank fraud) and deflating his wealth for tax purposes (Tax fraud). She's got him coming and going and Donald seems to have a lot of black women who have him by the balls, I count 3 so far including the DC judge Chutkan, who owns his ass.
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That’s what I heard as well, and being held liable for the difference strikes me as a valuable example to the rest of the 0.1%.
 
cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
www.msnbc.com

Opinion | Brad Raffensperger can stop Trump. He just doesn’t want to.

Georgia election law clearly gives the secretary of state the power to determine who qualifies to be on the ballot.
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I’m of two minds regarding this.

On the one hand, barring a clear and binding judicial finding that P01135809 did indeed insurrect, letting him lose the old-fashioned way would go far to deflate the extremists flying his banner.

On the other hand, you, I and the hairdresser all know that he (badword) well attempted a coup. It would be good to have that rendered official.

On the gripping hand, his other legal and associated financial troubles will almost certainly bleed the Republican campaign white. The thing, the One Thing, is to have settled law in place to interdict the next would-be fascist, someone as smooth, articulate and task-oriented as the guy who hijacked Germany. The transition to fascism is frighteningly easy, as that nation’s history instructs us. We are damned lucky that Jan 6 did not play out like the Reichstag fire. Think on it.
 
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cannabineer said:
I’m of two minds regarding this.

On the one hand, barring a clear and binding judicial finding that P01135809 did indeed insurrect, letting him lose the old-fashioned way would go far to deflate the extremists flying his banner.

On the other hand, you, I and the hairdresser all know that he (badword) well attempted a coup. It would be good to have that rendered official.

On the gripping hand, his other legal and associated financial troubles will almost certainly bleed the Republican campaign white. The thing, the One Thing, is to have settled law in place to interdict the next would-be fascist, someone as smooth, articulate and task-oriented as the guy who hijacked Germany. The transition to fascism is frighteningly easy, as that nation’s history instructs us. We are damned lucky that Jan 6 did not play out like the Reichstag fire. Think on it.
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The facts are clear about Trump and insurrection and so is the 14th, the standards of evidence are low, and it is not criminal but a "disability", beyond a reasonable doubt is not the standard, just reason to believe. Unlike postbellum 1868 though, today it should be proved to the appropriate civil case standards of evidence using civil case law. All that is needed is standing and a Secretary of State has that for sure and a venue, someone sues them to keep Trump off the ballot or put him on it and it goes to a civil trial. It must be settled by December 15th for some states to arrange printing primary ballots and sending them to Military personnel, if not they will create a fucking mess in the republican primaries. I think they would like to see a case(s) first and hear some arguments before swooping in, since there will conflicts in law between red and blue states over Trump.
 
cannabineer

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DIY-HP-LED said:
The facts are clear about Trump and insurrection and so is the 14th, the standards of evidence are low, and it is not criminal but a "disability", beyond a reasonable doubt is not the standard, just reason to believe. Unlike postbellum 1868 though, today it should be proved to the appropriate civil case standards of evidence using civil case law. All that is needed is standing and a Secretary of State has that for sure and a venue, someone sues them to keep Trump off the ballot or put him on it and it goes to a civil trial. It must be settled by December 15th for some states to arrange printing primary ballots and sending them to Military personnel, if not they will create a fucking mess in the republican primaries. I think they would like to see a case(s) first and hear some arguments before swooping in, since there will conflicts in law between red and blue states over Trump.
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Neither of our positions have changed.

I maintain that a high-level judicial finding is required. The process to one is in motion.
 
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cannabineer said:
Neither of our positions have changed.

I maintain that a high-level judicial finding is required. The process to one is in motion.
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There are four standards of evidence used in US courts and the most stringent is beyond a reasonable doubt for a criminal conviction, the standard of evidence is much lower in a civil case, OJ is an example of this, not guilty of murder but sued for wrongful death. I can't remember what those 4 standards are, but I saw a lawyer explaining it on YouTube I believe. If you want him indicted and convicted of insurrection that might take some time. However, the fact that he tried to choke his secret service driver in an effort to get to the capitol and physically lead the insurrection, means like those at the capitol he tried to use violence against LEO to attain his goal. His inaction on that day and the numerous times he gave the insurrectionists aid and comfort are further proof. Remember it is an insurrection or attempt to impede or overturn the constitutional order, not against the USA, that defines an insurrection, but there were coconspirators convicted of seditious conspiracy too, something else considered insurrection against the constitution. The acts on J6 fit the definition of insurrection and the crime does not need to be convicted for the 14th to disqualify Trump.
 
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