the trials of donald j. trump

topcat

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He represents actual conservative legal opinion, and many judges are conservative, the rest are liberal and agree. J6 and the conspiracies are crimes and insurrection, not politics.


Fmr. federal judge: Trump, allies committed ‘grave crimes’ with 2020 election coup plot

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Former federal judge J. Michael Luttig joins Nicolle Wallace to discuss the state of the Republican Party following Donald Trump and his allies' attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results and why he thinks Trump should be barred from the presidency for his actions on January 6th.
"Today, there is no Republican Party." That's big, coming from this guy.
 

cannabineer

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He represents actual conservative legal opinion, and many judges are conservative, the rest are liberal and agree. J6 and the conspiracies are crimes and insurrection, not politics.


Fmr. federal judge: Trump, allies committed ‘grave crimes’ with 2020 election coup plot

435,537 views Aug 22, 2023 #msnbc #trump #indictment
Former federal judge J. Michael Luttig joins Nicolle Wallace to discuss the state of the Republican Party following Donald Trump and his allies' attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results and why he thinks Trump should be barred from the presidency for his actions on January 6th.
He pulled his punch when he said Jan 6 almost amounted to treason.
 

printer

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"So unfair."

Trump recounts ‘terrible experience’ of being booked in Georgia
Former President Trump said he had a “terrible experience” while being booked at the Fulton County jail Thursday night, surrendering to Georgia authorities after being charged on 13 counts related to seeking to overturn the state’s 2020 election.

Trump, in separate interviews with Fox News Digital and Newsmax just a short time after his arrest, described the process as “very sad” and uncomfortable as he recounted being processed and having his mug shot taken.

“They insisted on a mug shot, and I agreed to do that,” he told Fox Digital. “This is the only time I’ve ever taken a mug shot.”
“It is not a comfortable feeling — especially when you’ve done nothing wrong,” he added.

Trump recounted his experience at length in an interview with Newsmax’s Greg Kelly after landing back in New Jersey.
Trump at one point claimed he’d “never heard the words mug shot,” only to later find himself taking one. He quipped that they didn’t teach him the words during his time at the University of Pennsylvania’s Wharton School of Finance, from which he graduated in 1968.

“I went through an experience that I never thought I’d have to go through, but then I’ve gone through the same experience three other times. In my whole life, I didn’t know anything about indictments. And now I’ve been indicted, like, four times,” he said.
Trump would later reference the sum of the cases now brought against him.

“Everything is just like one thing after the next. What they want to do is they want to try and wear you out, which they would never do,” he said.
Thursday marked the fourth time this year Trump has been arrested and booked, having previously been charged in criminal cases previously in Manhattan, Florida and Washington, D.C. But he did not have a mug shot taken in those cases, something officials in Atlanta made clear would be different this time around.

Mug shots of Trump’s co-defendants in Fulton County have steadily been released as they have turned themselves in this week. Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis (D) gave those charged in the case until noon Friday to surrender to authorities.

Trump was charged last week with 13 counts stemming from his efforts to overturn the 2020 election in Georgia. The indictment, brought by Willis, outlined Trump’s pressure campaign against election officials, a plot to submit false slates of electors and a lawsuit seeking to overturn the results in the state.

Starting to get real? Maybe after a time in the system Donny might develop some empathy? A girl can only wish.
 

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Most in new poll say Trump should be tried before election
A majority of Americans in a poll released Friday said former President Trump should be tried before the 2024 election on the federal charges over his efforts to remain in power after the 2020 election and his handling of classified documents.

The Politico Magazine-Ipsos poll found that 62 percent of Americans said they think the classified documents case should go to trial before the election, and 61 percent said the 2020 election interference case should be tried before voters cast their ballots next year.

Some 59 percent also said the election subversion case should be tried before the Republican primaries starting in early 2024, while 57 percent said the same of the charges over Trump’s handling and retention of classified materials.

Republicans are much less likely to support trying the former president ahead of next year’s elections than Democrats and independents, pollsters found.

About a third of Republican respondents in the poll — 33 percent — said the 2020 election interference case should go to trial before the general election, while just under half — 46 percent — said Trump should be tried in the classified documents case ahead of the election.

The former president has been indicted four times this year. In addition to the two federal cases, Trump is facing charges in Manhattan over an alleged 2016 hush money payment and in Fulton County, Ga., over his alleged efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state.

Trump became the first U.S. president to have his mug shot taken Thursday evening when he was booked in the Georgia election interference case. The other three indictments did not require the former president to take a mug shot.

The Politico Magazine-Ipsos poll was conducted Aug. 18-21 with 1,032 U.S. residents and had a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Most in new poll say Trump should be tried before election
A majority of Americans in a poll released Friday said former President Trump should be tried before the 2024 election on the federal charges over his efforts to remain in power after the 2020 election and his handling of classified documents.

The Politico Magazine-Ipsos poll found that 62 percent of Americans said they think the classified documents case should go to trial before the election, and 61 percent said the 2020 election interference case should be tried before voters cast their ballots next year.

Some 59 percent also said the election subversion case should be tried before the Republican primaries starting in early 2024, while 57 percent said the same of the charges over Trump’s handling and retention of classified materials.

Republicans are much less likely to support trying the former president ahead of next year’s elections than Democrats and independents, pollsters found.

About a third of Republican respondents in the poll — 33 percent — said the 2020 election interference case should go to trial before the general election, while just under half — 46 percent — said Trump should be tried in the classified documents case ahead of the election.

The former president has been indicted four times this year. In addition to the two federal cases, Trump is facing charges in Manhattan over an alleged 2016 hush money payment and in Fulton County, Ga., over his alleged efforts to overturn the results of the 2020 election in the state.

Trump became the first U.S. president to have his mug shot taken Thursday evening when he was booked in the Georgia election interference case. The other three indictments did not require the former president to take a mug shot.

The Politico Magazine-Ipsos poll was conducted Aug. 18-21 with 1,032 U.S. residents and had a margin of error of 3.2 percentage points.
Some more detail:

Three in five Americans say Trump should stand trial before the Republican primaries or 2024 general election

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Detailed findings:
1. A majority of Americans say they understand the charges against Trump.
  • Roughly three in five Americans say they understand the various cases against Trump somewhat or very well.
  • However, that represents a slight drop from the June 2023 Politico/Ipsos poll, when roughly two in three Americans reported understanding the various cases against Trump somewhat or very well.
2. Most Americans feel the federal trial on Trump’s 2020 election subversion case should happen before the Republican primaries in early 2024 and ahead of the general election in November 2024.
  • Attitudes towards trial timing remain steady between the sensitive documents and the federal election subversion case. Fifty-nine percent of Americans feel the federal election subversion trial should happen before the primaries in early 2024, while 57% feel the sensitive documents trial should occur before the Republican primaries.
  • Three in five Americans (61%) think the 2020 federal election subversion case against Donald Trump should happen before the general election. Similarly, for the sensitive documents case, 62% of Americans feel that Trump should stand trial before the 2024 general election in November 2024.
  • However, that stability hides a deepening partisan split. Fewer Republicans now say Trump should stand trial before the general election in November 2024 (33% in August 2023 say he should for the 2020 election subversion case vs. 46% in June 2023 for the sensitive documents case).
  • But, more independents now feel that Trump should stand trial before November 2024. Sixty-three percent of independents feel Trump should stand trial before the 2024 presidential election in November 2024, while 14% think he should not, and 22% do not know (1% skipped the question). In June, 48% of independents thought Trump should stand trial before November 2024, 18% felt he should not, and 34% were not sure.
  • Democratic opinion is constant, with most feeling he should stand trial before November 2024.
3. More Americans believe the Justice Department came to their decision to indict Trump in the 2020 election case through a fair evaluation of the evidence and the law, not as a way to gain political advantage for Joe Biden.
  • A majority agree that “The Justice Department’s decision to indict Trump in the 2020 election subversion case was based on a fair evaluation of the evidence and the law” at 59%.
  • However, a significant minority (44%) agree that “The Justice Department’s decision to indict Trump in the 2020 election subversion case was based on trying to gain a political advantage for Joe Biden.”
  • There are significant partisan differences here.
 
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