Why? Just Why?

Orin190

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Both GDP from ilgm both have same soil, light, water, nutes. Literally all the Sam aaaannnndd look at the difference... any ideas? First 4 are the wtf plant the next 2 are the one that's looking good......


Also pretty sure I burnt the hell out the leaves with nutes.... but the buds are still growing ...
 

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Orin190

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I started with seeds in the worst dirt possible, no light, no knowledge, no air flow, just seeds in bad dirt in my closet and in front of a window..... now I got 2 lights , inline fan, good dirt, humidifier, a/c and some half ass climate control from aci Contoller 69 and some nutes I still don't know wtf to do with lol
 

Orin190

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The “ good ones “ you show are actually not so good - purple stalks / stems / necrotic sugar leaf and missing fans to start with.
i just read your post on FFOF .... I am using straight FFHF. I plan on the next grow to use FFOF. I will mix 25% perlite with the soil and put it in the bag halfway (i plan on using 5 gal cloth bag) and let it go with straight water. Once it comes to flower top off the bag with more FFOF with perlite and water it through flower. That's it..? I am confused with the dry feed. I think you're explaining 2 ways at the same time?
 
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Daino

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Attention ladies and gentlemen if you look out your window you will see qe are flying over foxtale Island and if you look out your other window you will see the other side of foxtale island
 

Orin190

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Attention ladies and gentlemen if you look out your window you will see qe are flying over foxtale Island and if you look out your other window you will see the other side of foxtale island
if u look hard enough u will see more......... keep looking but at least give me recommendations :)
 

curious2garden

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if u look hard enough u will see more......... keep looking but at least give me recommendations :)
There's really nothing you can do about foxtailing. A lot of times it is simply genetics. But stressing them doesn't help. That being said remove all dead and currently dying leaves, leaving them there increases your chance of mold and you don't want that. Looking at your top buds they look pretty good. As you stated yourself you corrected and learned a lot of things on this grow and it looks like you're going to get a nice harvest to smoke. You just need to keep on doing what you have been doing until you are ready to harvest, chop and begin again.

That being said the hard part of not chopping early begins! Hang in there, it looks like you are going to finish well. Now go trim all the dead leaves! Good job
 

Orin190

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There's really nothing you can do about foxtailing. A lot of times it is simply genetics. But stressing them doesn't help. That being said remove all dead and currently dying leaves, leaving them there increases your chance of mold and you don't want that. Looking at your top buds they look pretty good. As you stated yourself you corrected and learned a lot of things on this grow and it looks like you're going to get a nice harvest to smoke. You just need to keep on doing what you have been doing until you are ready to harvest, chop and begin again.
' Good job
yes, thank you. i already chopped one too early and learned that. i bought a b.s. jewelers loupe on amazon but it's hard to really see the trich's i can.... but i see 0 amber ones even on the weed i got here from this dispensary. i paid $8, pretty sure it's garbage. Anyone mind sharing what they use?


if i remove all the bad fan leaves there will be 0 left.. i assume leave them on aother 3-7 maybe more days until i harvest
 

MadBret

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You can use your phone to take a close up pic. Then zoom on the picture and you should be able to see what's going on.
 

curious2garden

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yes, thank you. i already chopped one too early and learned that. i bought a b.s. jewelers loupe on amazon but it's hard to really see the trich's i can.... but i see 0 amber ones even on the weed i got here from this dispensary. i paid $8, pretty sure it's garbage. Anyone mind sharing what they use?


if i remove all the bad fan leaves there will be 0 left.. i assume leave them on aother 3-7 maybe more days until i harvest
The ones that are fully necrotic and in contact with the bud will attract mold. But your choice. I use some cheap loupes I picked up at Harbor Freight. I don't use trichomes to harvest. I harvest based on the looks of the plant. I want rounded full buds with retracted mostly orange pistils. Here ya go, this is the table I just pulled. It's a Bros Grimm Grimm Glue. I had wildly divergent phenos and if you look close she did a little bit of foxtailing. But you can see most of her pistils are retracted. I could have gone another week possibly two but I had some Cannarado White Papaya that was screaming so she's maybe a week immature. Hope that helps.
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MadBret

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I'd say it's getting close but @curious2garden is right. You should look at the whole plant. I probably prefer harvesting when the trichs are milky and starting to bend over from being heavy vs much if any amber. When I start seeing amber, I generally will call it a wrap. And you definitely want most of the pistols swallowed up. You lose a lot of weight if you harvest before they're done swelling. An old hippy friend of mine told me a long time ago that when you think they're done, wait another 2 weeks. That's probably not a bad rule of thumb for folks learning to grow. Good luck and hope it ends up being fire, bud.
 

Orin190

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I'd say it's getting close but @curious2garden is right. You should look at the whole plant. I probably prefer harvesting when the trichs are milky and starting to bend over from being heavy vs much if any amber. When I start seeing amber, I generally will call it a wrap. And you definitely want most of the pistols swallowed up. You lose a lot of weight if you harvest before they're done swelling. An old hippy friend of mine told me a long time ago that when you think they're done, wait another 2 weeks. That's probably not a bad rule of thumb for folks learning to grow. Good luck and hope it ends up being fire, bud.
Correct, I will most definitely look at the whole plant, right now i think the foxtail one is within a week and the other ... idk it got REALLY frosty over night last night but the buds havent swollen up much yet so maybe a couple few more weeks but yes i harvested my first early and i dried and am curing it (for practice) but hopefully i don't do the same on these lol
 
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