Please help. I can't figure out what's going on with my ladies.

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princesspuff

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Pics are attached. This is Humbodlt Pound Cake in 5 gallon buckets. Grown this strain 7x so far, never had these issues. 2 major things I did different was putting it in 50% Ocean Forest & 50% Happy Frog & started using Humbodlt Secrets Nutrients this run for the 1st time. Plants aren't root bound, checked that. PPM goes in @ 1000 & PPM run off directly from plant averages between 1200 - 1600 on various plants. PH @ 6.8 going in, run off PH @6.2. Working go adust the run off PH. Was going to flip, but
I want the ladies healthy first. I need to clean them up before the flip & I don't want to harm them any more. Thanks fellow GROmies!!!!
 

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Pics are attached. This is Humbodlt Pound Cake in 5 gallon buckets. Grown this strain 7x so far, never had these issues. 2 major things I did different was putting it in 50% Ocean Forest & 50% Happy Frog & started using Humbodlt Secrets Nutrients this run for the 1st time. Plants aren't root bound, checked that. PPM goes in @ 1000 & PPM run off directly from plant averages between 1200 - 1600 on various plants. PH @ 6.8 going in, run off PH @6.2. Working go adust the run off PH. Was going to flip, but
I want the ladies healthy first. I need to clean them up before the flip & I don't want to harm them any more. Thanks fellow GROmies!!!!
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PS...using 2 HLG 350r Diablo boards.
 
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What media did you grow in before? Were they transplanted recently into the 5 gallon buckets or have they been there since day one? Is there a possibility that pouring 1000ppm feed into the soil is too much because there is still feed left in the soil?
 
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Are the 350r boards new to you? I only mention it, because those lights are very strong. I noticed a lot of yellowing my first couple rounds under the 350r because it was turned up too high. I don't set it more than 60% now, and I keep it 20+ inches above the canopy. Much better that way. Not saying that's your problem here, but something to check.
 
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PopAndSonGrows said:
Forget runoff pH, it doesn't mean anything. Runoff PPM or EC yes, but pH, no.

Have your 6.8 pH feed down to 6.3-6.5 range. DO NOT feed higher pH because you think the runoff pH should be lower, IMO such a high pH is making it hard for your plants to suck up nitrogen.
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Awesome. Thank you. I'm going to have to give that a shot. I was thinking Nitrogen, but at a loss. What is your opinion on Humbodlt Secrets Nuts
 
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TCH said:
What media did you grow in before? Were they transplanted recently into the 5 gallon buckets or have they been there since day one? Is there a possibility that pouring 1000ppm feed into the soil is too much because there is still feed left in the soil?
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Started off in all Happy Frog, jumped to a 1 gallon & have been in 5 gallon for 6+ weeks. That's where I'm needing help. I started them on Humbodlt Secrets Nuts. First time using them, more problems than ever. Would you suggest lower PPM going in?
 
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urgh I don't like that the feed charts for that brand only have ml measurements and no ppm guide for what that will put you at. Judging based off what I see it looks like hydroponic/coco level and I'd start 1/2 that.
 
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princesspuff said:
Started off in all Happy Frog, jumped to a 1 gallon & have been in 5 gallon for 6+ weeks. That's where I'm needing help. I started them on Humbodlt Secrets Nuts. First time using them, more problems than ever. Would you suggest lower PPM going in?
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I'd definitely drop the pH as PopandSons recommended. Probably wouldn't hurt to drop the ppm as well a little bit, but I'd probably start with the pH and then go from there.
 
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MtRainDog said:
Are the 350r boards new to you? I only mention it, because those lights are very strong. I noticed a lot of yellowing my first couple rounds under the 350r because it was turned up too high. I don't set it more than 60% now, and I keep it 20+ inches above the canopy. Much better that way. Not saying that's your problem here, but something to check.
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Thank you. So, I ran 1 in another flower run last time, did get some yellowing & bleaching turned it down & they grew beautiful at 24 inches above canopy @ 70% They have a lot more light power now. Also, I have to admit, I've been keep my lights at the lowest manufacturer recommendation for height this run at the 15 inches above canopy. I have the light to about 40%. I wanted a short fat canopy, but I think I may be causing more harm with leaving it lower. I checked the PPFD (all new things for me to learn) and the entire top of the canopy was at 550. I'll post a pic of my last run under the 1 Diablo 24in high & 70% power. Thank you.
 
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sandman83 said:
1000ppm sounds pretty toasty for ffof if they haven't eaten the existing feed.
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Do you mean existing food in soil or when I feed? Sorry. I don't think there is any existing food left. I should say I'm assuming there isn't any due to their age. They are pushing 3 months.
 
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sandman83 said:
urgh I don't like that the feed charts for that brand only have ml measurements and no ppm guide for what that will put you at. Judging based off what I see it looks like hydroponic/coco level and I'd start 1/2 that.
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I noticed that about their nutes. Seems more for hydro/coco although it states "all grow mediums." Do you mean start with 1/2 of recommended amount? Thank you
 
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princesspuff said:
I noticed that about their nutes. Seems more for hydro/coco although it states "all grow mediums." Do you mean start with 1/2 of recommended amount? Thank you
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correct, if they only have a single feed chart (that I can find) and it seems based on hydroponic recirculating/coco coir levels. For soil personally I'd start at half that strength and increase when the girls indicate need. Based on photo's above I'd think ph lockout preventing uptake, not that the nutrients aren't in the water.
 
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