Roger Waters victim of Cancel culture???

[GenericEnigma]

Did any of you listen to his explanation, or just read headlines and condemn him?

I've listened to and read many of his statements over the years. He is sealioning for fascists and anti-semites. Full stop.

 

[lusidghost]

I've listened to and read many of his statements over the years. He is sealioning for fascists and anti-semites. Full stop.

Okay. Cite some examples?

 

[GenericEnigma]

Okay. Cite some examples?

E.g., one can criticize Israel legitimately. But to compare it to Nazi Germany is absolutely ridiculous.

Roger Waters In His Own Words

www.adl.org

Plenty of examples to go around. Just ask some of his contemporaries, especially those who have know him a long time: David Gilmore.

 

[lusidghost]

E.g., one can criticize Israel legitimately. But to compare it to Nazi Germany is absolutely ridiculous.

Roger Waters In His Own Words

www.adl.org

Plenty of examples to go around. Just ask some of his contemporaries, especially those who have know him a long time: David Gilmore.

That's all you've got? Come on, man.

 

[lusidghost]

That list isn't even accurate. He didn't was an SS costume for one. Do you know anything about Palestine?

 

[GenericEnigma]

That's all you've got? Come on, man.

I'm an old fan and it breaks my heart, too. Took me a while to accept it.

It's obvious. I am now convinced I could show you all the conclusive evidence in the world and you would say, "That's all you got?"

 

[lusidghost]

To call a guy antisemitic for standing up against an apartheid state is wild. Has he ever said anything actually antisemitic? Please find me that. The Wall was condemning nazism. Do you understand how context works?

 

[cannabineer]

To call a guy antisemitic for standing up against an apartheid state is wild. Has he ever said anything actually antisemitic? Please find me that. The Wall was condemning nazism. Do you understand how context works?

He suggested Ukraine sue for peace while torn apart by Vladolf’s war of aggression. He’s ok with naked fascism consuming other nations.

Roger Waters: I'm on a Ukrainian 'Kill List'

In an explosive, wide-ranging interview, the Pink Floyd co-founder discusses his controversial views on Ukraine — and Russia, and Wikileaks, and Israel, and so much more.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[lusidghost]

He suggested Ukraine sue for peace while torn apart by Vladolf’s war of aggression. He’s ok with naked fascism consuming other nations.

Roger Waters: I'm on a Ukrainian 'Kill List'

In an explosive, wide-ranging interview, the Pink Floyd co-founder discusses his controversial views on Ukraine — and Russia, and Wikileaks, and Israel, and so much more.

www.rollingstone.com

Yes, he's a pacifist. Like most of the left before Obama took office. Remember Crimea?

 

[cannabineer]

Yes, he's a pacifist. Like most of the left before Obama took office. Remember Crimea?

Legitimizing Vladolf’s aggression is incompatible with pacifism. He’s blaming the victim.

 

[lusidghost]

Legitimizing Vladolf’s aggression is incompatible with pacifism. He’s blaming the victim.

He was born into the fallout of a war torn country. Maybe he has an understanding that you or I don't?

 

[GenericEnigma]

To call a guy antisemitic for standing up against an apartheid state is wild. Has he ever said anything actually antisemitic? Please find me that. The Wall was condemning nazism. Do you understand how context works?

It's not that he criticized Israel, it's how he did it.

The Wall was basically a Waters autobiography. What was the headspace of the protagonist at the end?

Few antisemites come out and actually say what they mean. I doubt I would find a quote from Waters explicitly denouncing Jewish people.

Given your straw man and ad hominem, I don't think you really want to know. Just to convince others of what you think.

 

[cannabineer]

He was born into the fallout of a war torn country. Maybe he has an understanding that you or I don't?

I saw the taped interview last year.

No.

He’s pimping for the autocrat.

 

[lusidghost]

Is Putin a Nazi? I'm getting confused here. Waters whole body of work addresses and rejects authoritarianism and fascism.

 

[lusidghost]

It's not that he criticized Israel, it's how he did it.

The Wall was basically a Waters autobiography. What was the headspace of the protagonist at the end?

Few antisemites come out and actually say what they mean. I doubt I would find a quote from Waters explicitly denouncing Jewish people.

Given your straw man and ad hominem, I don't think you really want to know. Just to convince others of what you think.

Bold font helps people understand. Good move.

 

[lusidghost]

It's not that he criticized Israel, it's how he did it.

The Wall was basically a Waters autobiography. What was the headspace of the protagonist at the end?

Few antisemites come out and actually say what they mean. I doubt I would find a quote from Waters explicitly denouncing Jewish people.

Given your straw man and ad hominem, I don't think you really want to know. Just to convince others of what you think.

How many antisemites make a rock opera condemning nazism?

 

[cannabineer]

It's not that he criticized Israel, it's how he did it.

The Wall was basically a Waters autobiography. What was the headspace of the protagonist at the end?

Few antisemites come out and actually say what they mean. I doubt I would find a quote from Waters explicitly denouncing Jewish people.

Given your straw man and ad hominem, I don't think you really want to know. Just to convince others of what you think.

He seems to be here to push a perspective, not to examine it. The string of non sequitur about 40+ -year-old music fits in with it.

 

[BudmanTX]

Is Putin a Nazi?

yes

 

[HGCC]

I never took the wall album as a commentary on fascism or authoritarianism, seemed more about wrestling with one's own mental demons.

 

[lusidghost]

I never took the wall album as a commentary on fascism or authoritarianism, seemed more about wrestling with one's own mental demons.

Have you seen the movie? It's a pretty strong theme.