Yesterday's Mass Shooting.

BudmanTX

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Uvalde families cheer after two Republicans help advance Texas ‘raise the age’ bill
The families of the Uvalde school shooting victims erupted in cheers after two Republican state legislators voted to advance a bill that would raise the minimum age limit to buy semiautomatic rifles in Texas.

Two Republicans joined Democrats in the Texas House Community Safety Select Committee to approve the “Raise the Age” gun bill in an 8-5 vote and advance it to the House floor. After they voted, families of the victims of the 2022 Uvalde school shooting could be heard cheering and sobbing in videos reported by KXAN News.

An 18-year-old opened fire at Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas last May, killing 19 children and two teachers. The attack was the third-deadliest school shooting in U.S. history.

The families of the victims in the mass shooting have now banded together to demand stricter gun laws, including advocating for bill HB 2744, which would raise the age to purchase semiautomatic rifles from 18 to 21.

The families of the Uvalde victims held a press conference ahead of the committee’s meeting on Monday, calling on the chairman to hold a committee vote the measure. Monday is the deadline for scheduling votes in the House chamber and the last day for committees to send the bill to the floor.

“Because at the end of the every day, I’m just a mom who wants my daughter back. And a mom who doesn’t want another mom to know my pain,” said Kimberly Mata-Rubio said at the press conference. Mata-Rubio’s daughter, Lexi, was killed in the shooting.
Volunteers from Moms Demand Action, an advocacy group that calls for stricter gun laws, were also in attendance at the committee hearing Monday to urge the members to pass the bill.

“Today’s vote is a crucial step in the right direction, but we won’t give up. We will keep holding lawmakers in Texas — and across the nation — accountable until life-saving measures like HB 2744 become law,” the group said in a statement on Twitter.
now lets see if it makes it to the floor of the house here

thanks for the post
 

DIY-HP-LED

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How many mass shootings in 2023?
Beyond the mass killings that often make headlines, there have been scores of other shootings happening daily across the country.

There have been at least 202 mass shootings in the U.S. this year, leaving 792 victims injured and 276 dead, according to the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit publicly sourced database. The archive defines a mass shooting as at least four victims struck by gunfire.


Today is day 128
 

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Neighbor shoots 14-year-old as kids play hide and seek outside, Louisiana cops say
A 14-year-old was shot in the head as she played hide and seek, Louisiana deputies say. Now a neighbor is facing multiple charges.
David V. Doyle, 58, was arrested Sunday, May 7, after the Calcasieu Parish Sheriff’s Office said he opened fire on a group of kids playing on his property and “unknowingly hit the girl.”

Deputies were called about a shooting at a home in Starks early that morning, authorities wrote in a news release. They arrived to find a teen who was shot in the back of the head.

Several kids were playing in the area and used a neighbor’s property to hide, according to the sheriff’s office. The property owner, identified as Doyle, told deputies he went inside and grabbed his gun after he saw shadows outside his home, the release said.

Doyle said when he went back outside, he saw several people running from his property and opened fire.
He was arrested and charged with aggravated battery, four counts of aggravated assault with a firearm and illegal discharge of a firearm, deputies said.

Doyle remained in jail as of May 8, online records show.
The girl, who wasn’t publicly identified, was taken to a hospital with non-life-threatening injuries, according to deputies.

Thousands of people in the U.S. die from firearm-related injuries every year, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
“In 2020, there were 45,222 firearm-related deaths in the United States – that’s about 124 people dying from a firearm-related injury each day,” officials said.

That same year, gun-related injuries were among the leading causes of death in people ages 1 to 44 in the U.S., the CDC said.
Authorities said the Louisiana shooting remains under investigation.
Starks is about 155 miles west of Baton Rouge.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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Expert on Texas shooter’s ‘hate ideology’ on social media

31,343 views May 8, 2023 #CNN #News
CNN Chief Law Enforcement and Intelligence Analyst John Miller breaks down the ideology of the gunman who killed eight people and injured at least seven others at an Allen, Texas outlet mall. CNN's Josh Campbell also reports on what we know so far about seven of the eight victims.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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@DIY-HP-LED you could learn a lot from this guy’s channel
Not really, he would be out of business for lack of trade where I come from. Proper federal background checks would have nailed the Texas shooter when he was tossed out of the US army as a nutcase. Apparently, he got his guns through the private sale loophole and was a typical rightwing domestic terrorist, complete with a RWDS patch and the usual GI Joe outfit down to the miliary style assault rifle. They lucked out with a cop being at the right place and time and having the guts to risk drawing fire, to shoot the fucker, or it could have been dozens or more than a hundred killed.

I made the mistake of seeing some of the victim photos on Twitter and have less use for gun nuts than ever. I wouldn't be surprised at all about the political backlash over the next few years, even in Texas, between this shit and abortion it is driving the heavily democratic youth and female vote.
 

sweetisland2009

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You should learn from the latest mass murder; these guys are digging your political grave at a furious pace.
what I don’t think you fully understand as a Canadian is the sheer number of democrats with guns. This is not a political problem. It’s a cultural and societal problem. No one is “for” mass shooters or enabling mass shooters.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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what I don’t think you fully understand as a Canadian is the sheer number of democrats with guns. This is not a political problem. It’s a cultural and societal problem. No one is “for” mass shooters or enabling mass shooters.
The polling says over 80% want a bunch of restrictions including gun owners, the NRA and republicans are fucking gun owners or will. It depends on the federal election most of all, they are the ones with the power to cause real change and will start with the popular assault weapons bans, background checks and waiting periods, the things comfortable majorities want. However, the mass murders will continue to drive the agenda for years to come and won't slow down for a long time yet.

About 35% of American households have at least one gun and an astounding 3% of the population owns 50% of all the guns in America and I would suppose that 10% probably owns 80% of the guns. 4% of the population still hunts, so the rest are mostly paranoid people driven by fear. Now in Canada you can no longer sell a handgun, or inherit one, the gun dies with the owner and all handguns are registered so the police confiscate them with no compensation. Think about it, how many of those 10% in America are over 60 years old? With buy backs and other programs, the number of handguns in America could be dramatically reduced over 20 years. This is the art of the possible and just power and motivation are required.
 

printer

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what I don’t think you fully understand as a Canadian is the sheer number of democrats with guns. This is not a political problem. It’s a cultural and societal problem. No one is “for” mass shooters or enabling mass shooters.
Public Mass Shootings: Database Amasses Details of a Half Century of U.S. Mass Shootings with Firearms, Generating Psychosocial Histories
A troubled past and leaked plans are common to those who take part in mass shootings. Most use handguns, NIJ-supported research shows.

 

sweetisland2009

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The polling says over 80% want a bunch of restrictions including gun owners, the NRA and republicans are fucking gun owners or will. It depends on the federal election most of all, they are the ones with the power to cause real change and will start with the popular assault weapons bans, background checks and waiting periods, the things comfortable majorities want. However, the mass murders will continue to drive the agenda for years to come and won't slow down for a long time yet.

About 35% of American households have at least one gun and an astounding 3% of the population owns 50% of all the guns in America and I would suppose that 10% probably owns 80% of the guns. 4% of the population still hunts, so the rest are mostly paranoid people driven by fear. Now in Canada you can no longer sell a handgun, or inherit one, the gun dies with the owner and all handguns are registered so the police confiscate them with no compensation. Think about it, how many of those 10% in America are over 60 years old? With buy backs and other programs, the number of handguns in America could be dramatically reduced over 20 years. This is the art of the possible and just power and motivation are required.
What is the agenda you speak of in your first paragraph?


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You realize 35% of Americans (its higher than that by the way but ok let’s say 35%)

is over 100 million people. You’re not going to effect any kind of change making enemies with 100 + million people. Especially when their opinion may be that guns help maintain a civil society when the uncivilized/violent are hiding in the masses
 

sweetisland2009

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Public Mass Shootings: Database Amasses Details of a Half Century of U.S. Mass Shootings with Firearms, Generating Psychosocial Histories
A troubled past and leaked plans are common to those who take part in mass shootings. Most use handguns, NIJ-supported research shows.

Very good read - nothing political and because of it there is no boogeyman in sight just data. I’m fully supportive of longer wait times/enhanced background checks as long as they don’t limit poor people in gun ownership
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What is the agenda you speak of in your first paragraph?


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You realize 35% of Americans (its higher than that by the way but ok let’s say 35%)

is over 100 million people. You’re not going to effect any kind of change making enemies with 100 + million people. Especially when their opinion may be that guns help maintain a civil society when the uncivilized/violent are hiding in the masses
The mass murders set the agenda and the lunatics with easy access to guns are setting it. Not all those 100 million are in love with their guns, many would just turn them in as they recently did in NY. There are about 70 million enemies already in America, those who vote republican, they made themselves enemies of the constitution and thus the country by supporting an anti-democratic and anti-constitutional party, and a candidate who attempted a coup and declared himself an enemy of the constitution by recently saying he wanted to "get rid of it". Whether they are too stupid to realize this or not, or know what it means to be an American citizen and that is very clear to a patriot and involves loyalty to the constitution and the rule of law. Even a Canadian knows that, but a surprising number of American's don't shit about civics or even what the constitution is.
 

CANON_Grow

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Very good read - nothing political and because of it there is no boogeyman in sight just data. I’m fully supportive of longer wait times/enhanced background checks as long as they don’t limit poor people in gun ownership
This part of that link really jumped out to me:

"The findings support safe storage of guns. Yet, the researchers noted that there are no federal laws requiring safe storage of guns, and no federal standards for firearm locks. The data also support “red flag” laws permitting law enforcement or family members to petition a state court to order temporary removal of a firearm from a person who presents a danger."

I don't understand how anyone would be opposed to requiring safe storage of guns? Regardless of any other restrictions, this should be the absolute bare minimum that everyone should be able to agree on.

Appears it would help:
"In cases involving K-12 school shootings, over 80% of individuals who engaged in shootings stole guns from family members."
 
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