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Roger A. Shrubber

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It is not the only approach used but is part of a larger thing that includes education, something that is bitterly fought in some parts of America. Prejudicial hate is a crime in Canada, not a 1st amendment right, is there plenty of racism, sure there is, but they don't control the government and it is unlikely they will. When a local council does something stupid, the individuals are reminded about it by the human rights commission and lawyering up for it costs a fortune. This kind of problem is multigenerational, after you begin to tackle it and some ideas have to die with those who carry them, we just need to make sure they are not passed from generation to generation, like family values, or normalized in society.
well, that's a trick i've never seen performed successfully...People tell their kids what they believe, which is usually what their even more bigoted parents thought, which was what their totally bigoted parents thought...good luck silencing all that bullshit...
 

DIY-HP-LED

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well, that's a trick i've never seen performed successfully...People tell their kids what they believe, which is usually what their even more bigoted parents thought, which was what their totally bigoted parents thought...good luck silencing all that bullshit...
People are less influenced by their parents and local beliefs than ever before. It's not the government, it's the media and how much time people spend with it. It started with TV, but now has progressed to the internet and cellphones. Don't let the callow youth fool you, most will evolve in their views which are not that deeply ingrained as with other generations. Government policy can help which is why they rail against and try to control the education system. Kids spend more time at school and on media than they do with their parents, and it has an effect, one society can control a bit. We will always have the character flawed and weak minded, but we don't have to put them in charge of running the country. Not long ago, people voted how their daddy voted and some still do, but not nearly as many as there used to be.
 

CunningCanuk

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That's why we have a human rights commission and laws to deal with character flaws in some people. It means we are addressing the problems of bigotry and guns; it is also a recognition that we are no better than anybody else, just that we are dealing with it better. It's not perfect, but what is, the main point is it can be made more perfect or worse, depending on the government we choose.
The only thing that’s happened so far is a complaint has been filed with the commission. I want to see what comes from the complaint before I determine if we’re dealing with it better.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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The only thing that’s happened so far is a complaint has been filed with the commission. I want to see what comes from the complaint before I determine if we’re dealing with it better.
At least we have a commission where these things can be addressed, and complaints made. As I said, we are not perfect, nor do we live in a perfect world. However, that does not mean we can't try to make it better with each succeeding generation. The views of the vast majority of youth about gays, trans people and racism are a considerable improvement over the past generations. Bearing in mind many young men are callow but do mature into better people with age and life experience. It also helps that we don't generally elect the scum of the earth to political office, RoFo excepted, but he was more of a clown than a bigot.
 

Roger A. Shrubber

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We will always have the character flawed and weak minded, but we don't have to put them in charge of running the country.
how do you avoid that, when you have flawed and weak minded people who will vote for them? That seems to be our biggest physical problem...the morbidly stupid, who are allowed to act as if they are competent to make important decisions, when they clearly are not.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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We don't need no ignorant fascists telling us what to do, we can make our own calls and mail it out to who we want to, so go fuck yourself and look for our website in the future.
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Last week, Minister Gould told CTV that if mifepristone were to be banned in the U.S., the Liberal government would “work to provide it for American women.”

She was vague when pressed in that interview for details about Canada’s supply. When POLITICO asked for details, her office said, “We have discussed what Canada’s support for American women in need might be, and those discussions are still ongoing.”

The idea that Canada would get involved with U.S. affairs doesn’t sit right with some American lawmakers, particularly ones from states like Texas with tight abortion pill restrictions already in place.

“Canada should reevaluate their claims that it would provide Americans with a drug that is not only dangerous for the mother but out of step,” said conservative hardliner Rep. Randy Weber (R-Texas). “These do-it-yourself chemical abortions should be off the shelf in the United States and around the world.”
 

Ozumoz66

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I would say this demonstrates we have the same tolerance for ignorance and stupidity. At least in this butt fuck town in Ontario.
Norwich, Otterville, and several other surrounding communities have a large Dutch presence - many of which are of the cant farmer (sp) variant as per @Sativied. Intolerant Calvinists - "Calvinists believe that, at the beginning of time, God selected a limited number of souls to grant salvation and there's nothing any individual person can do during their mortal life to alter their eternal fate. Either you were chosen or you were not chosen, and that's all there is to it."

These people seem to care only about themselves, yet want to push their ideas onto others - pompous asses. They opposed Sunday shopping initially and now clog the checkout line.

They're not good stewards of the land either - tearing out fence rows and destroying habitat - all for another bushel! Locally, they spread dehydrated sewage lagoon human feces - complete with heavy metals, medications, etc - rendering the soil (through contamination) ineligible for future root crops. Sad and maddening as it still stinks 2 months later. I've started to attend council meetings to address this behaviour.
 

cannabineer

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Norwich, Otterville, and several other surrounding communities have a large Dutch presence - many of which are of the cant farmer (sp) variant as per @Sativied. Intolerant Calvinists - "Calvinists believe that, at the beginning of time, God selected a limited number of souls to grant salvation and there's nothing any individual person can do during their mortal life to alter their eternal fate. Either you were chosen or you were not chosen, and that's all there is to it."

These people seem to care only about themselves, yet want to push their ideas onto others - pompous asses. They opposed Sunday shopping initially and now clog the checkout line.

They're not good stewards of the land either - tearing out fence rows and destroying habitat - all for another bushel! Locally, they spread dehydrated sewage lagoon human feces - complete with heavy metals, medications, etc - rendering the soil (through contamination) ineligible for future root crops. Sad and maddening as it still stinks 2 months later. I've started to attend council meetings to address this behaviour.
Twenty years ago I visited friends in a rural locale about an hour south of Ottawa. They allowed most of their 40 acres to go wild, creating a significant oasis of local microfauna.
They told me that adjacent fields were being sprayed with the stuff. A barbarous practice imo.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What evidence is he basing his claim on or is it just a vague fear and disinformation that 5G causes covid". They want 5G, just not in their backyard, if he does not present evidence then he should be told in no uncertain terms, that his "feelings" mean fuck all, to anybody else with a brain. I'm tired of the irrational fears of idiots interfering with policy, show evidence or STFU until you get some.



 

Roger A. Shrubber

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What evidence is he basing his claim on or is it just a vague fear and disinformation that 5G causes covid". They want 5G, just not in their backyard, if he does not present evidence then he should be told in no uncertain terms, that his "feelings" mean fuck all, to anybody else with a brain. I'm tired of the irrational fears of idiots interfering with policy, show evidence or STFU until you get some.



If cell tower radiation caused cancer, there would be big rings of cancer around every tower in every city that had them, which is every city...
There are not...There is no predictable pattern around any of them.
 

CunningCanuk

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What does it cost Canadian taxpayers to be part of the monarchy?

While Canada might not pay money directly to the monarchy, the country's ties to the House of Windsor could cost taxpayers more than $58.7 million per year.

Read in CTV News: https://apple.news/AfedgUscKQiWEAABFm1j0xw

I’d rather we all have a free cup coffee. Or better yet we consider the “price of a cup of coffee” line to advance something useful in our society, like mental health and homelessness initiatives.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What does it cost Canadian taxpayers to be part of the monarchy?

While Canada might not pay money directly to the monarchy, the country's ties to the House of Windsor could cost taxpayers more than $58.7 million per year.

Read in CTV News: https://apple.news/AfedgUscKQiWEAABFm1j0xw

I’d rather we all have a free cup coffee. Or better yet we consider the “price of a cup of coffee” line to advance something useful in our society, like mental health and homelessness initiatives.
Let's look at the alternative, a president, how much would that cost, bearing in mind most of the current expenses are for the governor general and would be just transferred to a ceremonial president with the same powers as the GG. We would still end up paying for royal visits anyway. Would the president be elected directly? If so he/she could challenge the power of the PM, who is not directly elected by a majority of Canadians. It kinda opens things up, unless powers are spelled out in the constitution, and it would mean opening that can of worms. A directly elected president would have more votes than any PM and lead to a division of powers. A unicameral house and a powerless senate are desirable when we look down south and absorb the lessons. I'm not a monarchist, but the alternative needs to be thought through carefully and is not necessarily better. The prime minister could appoint the president for 5 years I suppose that is how it is done now with the GG.
 

Ozumoz66

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What does it cost Canadian taxpayers to be part of the monarchy?

While Canada might not pay money directly to the monarchy, the country's ties to the House of Windsor could cost taxpayers more than $58.7 million per year.

Read in CTV News: https://apple.news/AfedgUscKQiWEAABFm1j0xw

I’d rather we all have a free cup coffee. Or better yet we consider the “price of a cup of coffee” line to advance something useful in our society, like mental health and homelessness initiatives.
What, you're not watching the coronation ceremony - me neither!
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I'll send you a lb of coffee. Neighbour purchased 50lb bag of raw Yirgacheffe and had it roasted locally. It was better when he purchased the already roasted beans.

I concur with pursuing solutions for mental health and homelessness. Lots of people stressed out and coping strategies are unknown/uncomfortable to many. Pride/costs hinder seeking help for some.
 

CunningCanuk

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Let's look at the alternative, a president, how much would that cost, bearing in mind most of the current expenses are for the governor general and would be just transferred to a ceremonial president with the same powers as the GG. We would still end up paying for royal visits anyway. Would the president be elected directly? If so he/she could challenge the power of the PM, who is not directly elected by a majority of Canadians. It kinda opens things up, unless powers are spelled out in the constitution, and it would mean opening that can of worms. A directly elected president would have more votes than any PM and lead to a division of powers. A unicameral house and a powerless senate are desirable when we look down south and absorb the lessons. I'm not a monarchist, but the alternative needs to be thought through carefully and is not necessarily better. The prime minister could appoint the president for 5 years I suppose that is how it is done now with the GG.
What the hell are you talking about? We don’t need another figurehead to replace the extisting one. We don’t need a president or a Governor General.

We certainly don’t need these inbred leeches.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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What the hell are you talking about? We don’t need another figurehead to replace the extisting one. We don’t need a president or a Governor General.

We certainly don’t need these inbred leeches.
Every parliamentary democracy has a president or a prince as a ceremonial head of state with limited powers, among them dismissing the government and calling new elections. Systems vary somewhat, but most parliamentary style democracies have this check on the power of the PM and a basic division of powers. So how do you select a head of state and what powers are they going to have? The PM of any parliamentary democracy is not the official head of state, though they are the de facto head of state. I have no problem getting rid of the British monarchy, but we need to think about who replaces the GG, unless you wanna make Justin king or something. This is also a constitutional matter and requires changes to it, as well as a host of other institutions, we still have crown prosecutors and they and the courts will require some relabeling and reordering too. However first come the constitutional changes and perhaps getting rid of the notwithstanding clause? The last one to tackle the constitution was Justin's old man and he was a very capable man.
 

CunningCanuk

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Every parliamentary democracy has a president or a prince as a ceremonial head of state with limited powers, among them dismissing the government and calling new elections. Systems vary somewhat, but most parliamentary style democracies have this check on the power of the PM and a basic division of powers. So how do you select a head of state and what powers are they going to have? The PM of any parliamentary democracy is not the official head of state, though they are the de facto head of state. I have no problem getting rid of the British monarchy, but we need to think about who replaces the GG, unless you wanna make Justin king or something. This is also a constitutional matter and requires changes to it, as well as a host of other institutions, we still have crown prosecutors and they and the courts will require some relabeling and reordering too. However first come the constitutional changes and perhaps getting rid of the notwithstanding clause? The last one to tackle the constitution was Justin's old man and he was a very capable man.
I understand quite well how our system works and the role of the monarchy. Canada needs a ceremonial head of state like I need a civics lesson.
 

DIY-HP-LED

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I understand quite well how our system works and the role of the monarchy. Canada needs a ceremonial head of state like I need a civics lesson.
Then it will be a president selected for a 5year term by the PM? If it were easy, it would already be done. As they say, the devil is in the details.
 
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